New quest decks
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 23 Apr 2011, 08:23
Your Tempered Steel deck is fine. It could be tier 3 I think, the only cards that bug me as being too weak are Glint Hawk Idol and Contested War Zone.
We currently don't have a UB Hybrid deck, maybe you can turn this into one? But a not artifact centered WUB deck would also have a niche.
There are some cards here that would be a lot better in a two color deck: Ghastlord of Fugue, Glen Elendra Liege, Dire Undercurrents and Steel of the Godhead.Corwin72 wrote:Possible Medium WUB deck
It is rare heavy but I think that it shows promise.
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- WUBMed
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Augury Adept
1 Azorius First-Wing
1 Azorius Guildmage
1 Benthic Djinn
1 Deft Duelist
2 Dimir Cutpurse
2 Dimir Guildmage
1 Ghastlord of Fugue
2 Glen Elendra Liege
2 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Wasp Lancer
2 Zur the Enchanter
2 Absorb
2 Agony Warp
2 Brilliant Ultimatum
1 Dire Undercurrents
2 Mortify
1 Pillory of the Sleepless
2 Punish Ignorance
1 Steel of the Godhead
2 Undermine
2 Vindicate
4 Arcane Sanctum
4 Esper Panorama
6 Island
4 Plains
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
We currently don't have a UB Hybrid deck, maybe you can turn this into one? But a not artifact centered WUB deck would also have a niche.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 23 Apr 2011, 17:28
I thought that having those powerful 2 color deck cards in a 3 color deck would water it down enough to be medium instead of Hard. They are power cards and will greatly affect the deck.
Steel of the Godhead was for Zur.
The WUB non artifact deck was the thought. I just really wanted to use the 3cc counters.
These Med decks are not easy to power balance.
Steel of the Godhead was for Zur.
The WUB non artifact deck was the thought. I just really wanted to use the 3cc counters.
These Med decks are not easy to power balance.
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 23 Apr 2011, 17:59
I understand, there are not so many WUB cards (but Esper Stormblade would be a fitting addition). While you're at it a UB Hybrid opponent would be really nice.Corwin72 wrote:I thought that having those powerful 2 color deck cards in a 3 color deck would water it down enough to be medium instead of Hard. They are power cards and will greatly affect the deck.
Steel of the Godhead was for Zur.
The WUB non artifact deck was the thought. I just really wanted to use the 3cc counters.
Yes, the hard decks and the easy decks are easier to appraise.Corwin72 wrote:These Med decks are not easy to power balance.
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 27 Apr 2011, 15:12
Corwin, I've added your GW deck as Hercules 2 (and a hard version called Hercules 3).
Should I also add your tempered steel deck (with replacements for Glint Hawk Idol and Contested War Zone)? Should I use one of your initial deck names/icons?
Should I also add your tempered steel deck (with replacements for Glint Hawk Idol and Contested War Zone)? Should I use one of your initial deck names/icons?
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Re: New quest decks
by Chris H. » 27 Apr 2011, 15:32
I like the Hercules icon. This is a good choice. I will add this icon to the opponent icon archive.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 16:41
Lets kill the Contested War Zone. I have not got the computer to use that correctly.
I have had no problems with the Glint Hawk Idol. That has been a resilient threat that the AI uses.
I have had no problems with the Glint Hawk Idol. That has been a resilient threat that the AI uses.
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 17:16
Here is Deadpool 3
I think that it is ready.
I think that it is ready.
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- Deadpool 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Ashenmoor Liege
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Emberstrike Duo
4 Grixis Grimblade
4 Rakdos Guildmage
4 Shambling Remains
4 Fists of the Demigod
4 Veinfire Borderpost
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Lavaclaw Reaches
6 Mountain
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 27 Apr 2011, 17:35
I've added it as Wally 3.Corwin72 wrote:Lets kill the Contested War Zone. I have not got the computer to use that correctly.
I have had no problems with the Glint Hawk Idol. That has been a resilient threat that the AI uses.
The deck looks great already. Maybe replace some copies of Emberstrike Duo and Rakdos Guildmage with Jund Hackblade, Terminate and maybe one Defiler of Souls?Corwin72 wrote:Here is Deadpool 3
I think that it is ready.
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- Deadpool 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Ashenmoor Liege
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Emberstrike Duo
4 Grixis Grimblade
4 Rakdos Guildmage
4 Jund Hackblade
4 Fists of the Demigod
4 Veinfire Borderpost
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Lavaclaw Reaches
6 Mountain
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
I also never tested Borderposts in AI decks, is it really needed here?
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 18:08
I really like the Duo in the deck, The first strike is hard to deal with.
The guildmage could turn into the Hackblade.
The Borderposts could turn into Terminate as well.
So:
The guildmage could turn into the Hackblade.
The Borderposts could turn into Terminate as well.
So:
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- Deadpool 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Ashenmoor Liege
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Emberstrike Duo
4 Grixis Grimblade
4 Jund Hackblade
4 Shambling Remains
1 Defiler of Souls
3 Fists of the Demigod
4 Terminate
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Lavaclaw Reaches
6 Mountain
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 18:18
Thoughts on Deadpool 2?
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- Deadpool 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Vicious Kavu
2 Ashenmoor Gouger
2 Sootwalkers
2 Ashenmoor Liege
2 Zombie Cutthroat
2 Demigod of Revenge
2 Wretched Anurid
2 Emberstrike Duo
2 Grixis Grimblade
2 Gobhobbler Rats
2 Shivan Zombie
2 Goblin Deathraiders
2 Shambling Remains
2 Akki Drillmaster
2 Fists of the Demigod
4 Disfigure
2 Terminate
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
8 Mountain
8 Swamp
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks
by Sloth » 27 Apr 2011, 18:26
Yes looks nice. I will add it.Corwin72 wrote:I really like the Duo in the deck, The first strike is hard to deal with.
The guildmage could turn into the Hackblade.
The Borderposts could turn into Terminate as well.
So:
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- Deadpool 3
[general]
constructed
[main]
4 Ashenmoor Gouger
4 Ashenmoor Liege
4 Demigod of Revenge
4 Emberstrike Duo
4 Grixis Grimblade
4 Jund Hackblade
4 Shambling Remains
1 Defiler of Souls
3 Fists of the Demigod
4 Terminate
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
4 Lavaclaw Reaches
6 Mountain
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
I think there's no reason to not let everything stay two colored. I'm sure there are some more mediocre black/red cards.Corwin72 wrote:Thoughts on Deadpool 2?
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- Deadpool 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Vicious Kavu
2 Ashenmoor Gouger
2 Sootwalkers
2 Ashenmoor Liege
2 Zombie Cutthroat
2 Demigod of Revenge
2 Wretched Anurid
2 Emberstrike Duo
2 Grixis Grimblade
2 Gobhobbler Rats
2 Shivan Zombie
2 Goblin Deathraiders
2 Shambling Remains
2 Akki Drillmaster
2 Fists of the Demigod
4 Disfigure
2 Terminate
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
8 Mountain
8 Swamp
[sideboard]
EDIT: Even in a medium deck I don't like the AI to have so many cards that it can only use suboptimal (Zombie Cutthroat, Wretched Anurid and Akki Drillmaster).
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 18:29
I was trying to power down the duo and the other 2/ color cards were just terrible B R for a 1\1 swampwalk. bleh. I will take another look at:
Zombie Cutthroat
Wretched Anurid
Akki Drillmaster
and Disfigure
Zombie Cutthroat
Wretched Anurid
Akki Drillmaster
and Disfigure
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- Deadpool 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
2 Vicious Kavu
2 Ashenmoor Gouger
2 Sootwalkers
2 Ashenmoor Liege
2 Blazing Specter
2 Demigod of Revenge
2 Pyre Zombie
2 Emberstrike Duo
2 Grixis Grimblade
2 Gobhobbler Rats
2 Shivan Zombie
2 Goblin Deathraiders
2 Shambling Remains
2 Fulminator Mage
2 Fists of the Demigod
2 Terminate
4 Scar
4 Blackcleave Cliffs
4 Dragonskull Summit
8 Mountain
8 Swamp
[sideboard]
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 19:25
Darkseid 2
Is this too much for a level 2?
Is this too much for a level 2?
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- Darkseid 2
[general]
constructed
[main]
24 Swamp
4 Aphetto Exterminator
4 Cabal Executioner
4 Grinning Demon
4 Headhunter
3 Silent Specter
4 Skinthinner
4 Soul Collector
2 Damnation
3 Overwhelming Forces
4 Wrench Mind
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Re: New quest decks
by Corwin72 » 27 Apr 2011, 19:36
Here is that UB deck that you requested a while back.
UB 2
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- [general]
constructed
[main]
4 Benthic Djinn
2 Ghastlord of Fugue
4 Glen Elendra Liege
4 Inkfathom Infiltrator
4 Shadowmage Infiltrator
4 Tidehollow Strix
4 Wasp Lancer
2 Dire Undercurrents
4 Recoil
4 Undermine
4 Creeping Tar Pit
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
6 Island
6 Swamp
[sideboard]
UB 2
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constructed
[main]
2 Benthic Djinn
2 Dimir Cutpurse
2 Dimir Infiltrator
2 Esper Stormblade
2 Ghastlord of Fugue
2 Glen Elendra Liege
2 Gravelgill Duo
2 Grixis Grimblade
2 Inkfathom Infiltrator
2 Moroii
2 Shadowmage Infiltrator
2 Tidehollow Strix
2 Urborg Drake
2 Vodalian Zombie
2 Wasp Lancer
2 Dire Undercurrents
2 Recoil
2 Undermine
4 Darkslick Shores
4 Drowned Catacomb
8 Island
8 Swamp
[sideboard]
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