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Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 18 Jul 2015, 05:56
by tojammot
Sloth wrote:That's a great sentence. =D>
And while there is some lovely stinkers in your list there are two or three cards that may hurt the feelings of a beginning player: Planar Collapse (could make the AI look more stupid than it already is), Worship and Reverence (could be frustrating) and ... ugh Aysen Highway + Great Wall comes already very close to trolling the player with nonsense.
Right, also, I feel like Martial Law is too strong.
Agent Smith 1 | Open
Main:
1 Aegis of Honor
1 Ajani's Mantra
1 Call to Arms
1 Convalescence
1 Fire at Will
1 Gerrard's Battle Cry
1 High Ground
1 Hopeful Eidolon
1 Inheritance
1 Ivory Mask
1 Karmic Justice
1 Kill Shot
1 Lifeblood
1 Lucent Liminid
1 Mesa Enchantress
1 Myth Realized
1 Oath of Lieges
1 Opalescence
21 Plains
1 Planar Collapse
1 Replenish
1 Reverence
1 Sacred Ground
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Sheltering Prayers
4 Starfield of Nyx
1 Worship
1 Exclusion Ritual
2 Silkwrap
2 Suspension Field
1 Lashknife Barrier
1 Spirit Mirror
1 Orim's Prayer
1 Serra's Blessing
1 Kismet
With the right legends this deck could even be hard.
Cohen the Barbarian 2 | Open
Main:
1 Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
1 Arid Mesa
1 Asmira, Holy Avenger
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
1 Commander Eesha
2 Day of Destiny
2 Defense of the Heart
4 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
2 Heroes' Podium
2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Isao, Enlightened Bushi
1 Iwamori of the Open Fist
1 Jazal Goldmane
1 Karakas
2 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
1 Lieutenant Kirtar
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Mirri, Cat Warrior
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
2 Noble Hierarch
1 Nylea, God of the Hunt
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Plains
2 Reki, the History of Kamigawa
2 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
4 Savannah
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Spear of Heliod
1 Steward of Valeron
1 Surrak, the Hunt Caller
1 Temple Garden
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
3 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Yavimaya Hollow


And a little extra
Invisible Man 3 | Open
Main:
1 AEther Figment
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Bident of Thassa
3 Bonesplitter
4 Counterspell
3 Curiosity
1 Deep-Sea Kraken
2 Gudul Lurker
4 Inkfathom Infiltrator
22 Island
3 Latch Seeker
1 Loxodon Warhammer
2 Ophidian Eye
4 Sigil of Sleep
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Triton Shorestalker
2 Wu Light Cavalry

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2015, 13:37
by Sloth
tojammot wrote:
Agent Smith 1 | Open
Main:
1 Aegis of Honor
1 Ajani's Mantra
1 Call to Arms
1 Convalescence
1 Fire at Will
1 Gerrard's Battle Cry
1 High Ground
1 Hopeful Eidolon
1 Inheritance
1 Ivory Mask
1 Karmic Justice
1 Kill Shot
1 Lifeblood
1 Lucent Liminid
1 Mesa Enchantress
1 Myth Realized
1 Oath of Lieges
1 Opalescence
21 Plains
1 Planar Collapse
1 Replenish
1 Reverence
1 Sacred Ground
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Sheltering Prayers
4 Starfield of Nyx
1 Worship
1 Exclusion Ritual
2 Silkwrap
2 Suspension Field
1 Lashknife Barrier
1 Spirit Mirror
1 Orim's Prayer
1 Serra's Blessing
1 Kismet



With the right legends this deck could even be hard.
Cohen the Barbarian 2 | Open
Main:
1 Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
1 Arid Mesa
1 Asmira, Holy Avenger
1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking
1 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
1 Commander Eesha
2 Day of Destiny
2 Defense of the Heart
4 Forest
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
2 Heroes' Podium
2 Isamaru, Hound of Konda
1 Isao, Enlightened Bushi
1 Iwamori of the Open Fist
1 Jazal Goldmane
1 Karakas
2 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
1 Lieutenant Kirtar
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Mirri, Cat Warrior
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
2 Noble Hierarch
1 Nylea, God of the Hunt
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Plains
2 Reki, the History of Kamigawa
2 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
4 Savannah
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Spear of Heliod
1 Steward of Valeron
1 Surrak, the Hunt Caller
1 Temple Garden
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
3 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
1 Yavimaya Hollow


And a little extra
Invisible Man 3 | Open
Main:
1 AEther Figment
1 Basilisk Collar
1 Bident of Thassa
3 Bonesplitter
4 Counterspell
3 Curiosity
1 Deep-Sea Kraken
2 Gudul Lurker
4 Inkfathom Infiltrator
22 Island
3 Latch Seeker
1 Loxodon Warhammer
2 Ophidian Eye
4 Sigil of Sleep
2 Sword of Feast and Famine
4 Triton Shorestalker
2 Wu Light Cavalry
Thanks tojammot! All added with minor modifications (no more Great Wall in Agent Smith 1? No way).

Here is a silly deck based on creatures with Reach and powered by Afterlife, Swan Song and Hunted Troll:
Shelob 1 | Open
2 Forest
4 Seaside Citadel
1 Treva's Ruins
1 Arctic Flats
1 Blossoming Sands
1 Elfhame Palace
1 Graypelt Refuge
1 Razorverge Thicket
1 Selesnya Guildgate
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Temple of Plenty
1 Tranquil Garden
1 Vec Townships
1 Hinterland Harbor
1 Simic Guildgate
1 Temple of Mystery
1 Thornwood Falls
1 Bower Passage
1 Crosswinds
1 Raking Canopy
1 Scattershot Archer
1 Ancient Spider
1 Canopy Spider
1 Crocanura
1 Frostweb Spider
1 Hitchclaw Recluse
1 Juvenile Gloomwidow
1 Netcaster Spider
1 Oran-Rief Recluse
1 Pincer Spider
1 Rib Cage Spider
1 Sporecap Spider
1 Woolly Spider
1 Giant Mantis
1 Giant Spider
1 Kessig Recluse
1 Needleshot Gourna
1 Norwood Archers
1 Pale Recluse
1 Penumbra Spider
1 Plated Spider
1 Rashka the Slayer
1 Selesnya Sagittars
1 Sentinel Spider
1 Thrashing Mossdog
4 Afterlife
3 Swan Song
4 Hunted Troll

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 19 Jul 2015, 15:33
by tojammot
Time for another round of quest icons again? I did post a pack a page or so back.

Meanwhile I'm brewing up gimmicky decks too.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2015, 12:02
by Sloth
tojammot wrote:Time for another round of quest icons again? I did post a pack a page or so back.
Done!

tojammot wrote:Meanwhile I'm brewing up gimmicky decks too.
Do you want to have SVN access tojammot? Then you can add decks and commit tweaks by yourself.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2015, 12:28
by tojammot
Sloth wrote:Do you want to have SVN access tojammot? Then you can add decks and commit tweaks by yourself.
That would be nice, although you're a better deckbuilder than me and that I usually do this in my spare time (which I might sharply lack next semester); but go for it. If I have the time, I'd learn scripting for this as well.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 20 Jul 2015, 12:54
by Sloth
tojammot wrote:That would be nice, although you're a better deckbuilder than me and that I usually do this in my spare time (which I might sharply lack next semester); but go for it.
Done! I recommend using TortoiseSVN.

tojammot wrote:If I have the time, I'd learn scripting for this as well.
Fortunately Forge has more than 14000 scripting examples (including lots of small errors). :D

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2015, 15:54
by tojammot
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this SVN thing, but here are the decks I've always wanted to post.

Doctor Strange | Open
Main:
2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Mountain
2 Mystic Monastery
1 Plains
1 Plateau
2 Scalding Tarn
4 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
1 Darksteel Reactor
2 Dominus of Fealty
1 Fog Bank
1 Luminous Angel
3 Nyx-Fleece Ram
4 Wall of Denial
4 Paradox Haze
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Arc Blade
4 Chronomantic Escape
1 Heroes Remembered
4 Idyllic Tutor
4 Reality Strobe


Gandalf | Open
Note: Electrolyze could be replaced with Prophetic Bolt, also the AI does not copy spells.

Main:
1 Island
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Shivan Reef
4 Sulfur Falls
4 Steam Vents
4 Volcanic Island
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
2 Charmbreaker Devils
4 Spellheart Chimera
4 Pyromancer Ascension
4 Accumulated Knowledge
1 Ancestral Recall
4 Cyclonic Rift
4 Electrolyze
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Remand
4 Mizzium Mortars
1 Time Walk


Goku | Open
Main:
2 Arid Mesa
4 Forest
2 Mountain
2 Rootbound Crag
4 Taiga
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Ruby
1 Avatar of the Resolute
2 Bloodhall Ooze
2 Champion of Lambholt
3 Countryside Crusher
2 Gyre Sage
2 Kalonian Hydra
2 Predator Ooze
2 Primordial Hydra
4 Taurean Mauler
2 Tuskguard Captain
2 Curse of Predation
2 Curse of Stalked Prey
2 Hardened Scales
1 Ancient Grudge
2 Destructive Revelry
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Wheel of Fortune

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2015, 20:07
by Sloth
Paradox Haze is a nice card. We needed a deck build around it.
I searched for possible inclusions, but couldn't find anything that you haven't included already. I would say it's medium.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2015, 21:09
by friarsol
Sloth wrote:
Paradox Haze is a nice card. We needed a deck build around it.
I searched for possible inclusions, but couldn't find anything that you haven't included already. I would say it's medium.
Here's a bunch of others that might be good for making the deck more inconsistent (assuming we have them and the AI is ok with playing them):

Assemble the Legion (conflicts with Haze tutoring)
Azor's Elocutors
Bomb Squad
Crescendo of War
Dragonmaster Outcast
Eternal Dominion
Goblin Bomb
Legacy's Allure
Magmatic Force
Martial Law
Mirror-Sigil Sergeant
Recumbent Bliss
Thassa, God of the Sea

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 21 Jul 2015, 21:39
by Sloth
I'm afraid that all the enchantments with cmc >= 3 could mess up Idyllic Tutor.

But Legacy's Allure and Mirror-Sigil Sergeant look really promising.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2015, 00:28
by tojammot
Here's an alternate version that doesn't use Idyllic Tutor:

Doctor Strange (Alt) | Open
Main:
2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Mountain
2 Mystic Monastery
1 Plains
1 Plateau
2 Scalding Tarn
4 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
1 Azor's Elocutors
2 Dragonmaster Outcast
4 Fog Bank
1 Magmatic Force
2 Mirror-Sigil Sergeant
3 Wall of Denial
1 Guard Gomazoa
1 Assemble the Legion
2 Honden of Cleansing Fire
2 Honden of Infinite Rage
1 Honden of Seeing Winds
1 Martial Law
4 Paradox Haze
2 Raka Sanctuary
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Chronomantic Escape
2 Reality Strobe

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2015, 01:49
by friarsol
Sloth wrote:I'm afraid that all the enchantments with cmc >= 3 could mess up Idyllic Tutor.
Yea, I only wrote it for the first Enchantment, but figured I'd provide all of them for completeness.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 22 Jul 2015, 12:07
by Sloth
While i would be ok to go without Idyllic Tutor, this version has a very high curve and thus a high chance of losing without ever finding Paradox Haze. I very much miss Nyx-Fleece Ram.

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2015, 14:01
by tojammot
Another attempt, cutting Red for Green.

Doctor Strange (Bant) | Open
Main:
4 Flooded Strand
1 Forest
1 Island
3 Misty Rainforest
1 Plains
2 Savannah
2 Seaside Citadel
2 Tropical Island
4 Tundra
3 Windswept Heath
1 Azor's Elocutors
3 Creakwood Liege
1 Mycoloth
4 Nyx-Fleece Ram
3 Primordial Hydra
4 Wall of Denial
4 Wall of Omens
2 Awakening Zone
4 Paradox Haze
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Chronomantic Escape
4 Reality Strobe

Re: New quest decks

PostPosted: 24 Jul 2015, 20:49
by Sloth
I don't know whether green is better. Creakwood Liege is hard to cast and his pumps don't have much synergy. Mycoloth is weak in the hands of the AI.
What about Coercive Portal?
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