Special quests

[friarsol]

What's the easiest way to test Challenges via an actual Quest? I have some new Challenge features I'm considering introducing, but I need to make sure everything is loading properly.

Edit: Nm. I'll just hack my challenges list to force it into the right stuff

[mastroego]

Hi all.

Just a quick comment about one of the quests.
Now I'm having fun with all of them, they're hard but they're beatable with the right kind of deck and a bit of luck.
Winning does feel like an accomplishment

I have to consider Repressed Magic an exception though. It is just very frustrating and unfair to the player.
There's no generic archetype that can beat it (as good and efficient as it may be). Aggro, control, combo... I've tried a pure red with instants only (since those don't get the cost increase) but the AI has counters for that too; I'd need to at least set up a Pyromancer Ascension in order to have a chance but that isn't an instant, and I can't get it out fast enough. On top of it all, the AI has land removal
In my estimate at least, the only way to have a reasonable chance is to build a very specific deck, tailored to deal with this quest once you've been beaten so many times as to get some idea on how to do it. Not that I've figured out what it might be.
Sorry for the little rant

Thanks to all the people involved for the hard work on this program, and the quest feature especially.
It's amazing.

[mastroego]

I've tried the Repressed Magic challenge several times since my comment, even with a specifically built deck.
No sorceries, only instants, summoning traps, harrow, naturalize, only basic lands... I've tried to consider everything this guys has ready for you.
But it's too much, I can't even the field and start my counterattack build-up fast enough before he destroys me.
And he still has counters, most of the time I can't even remove a small portion of his pre-built defenses.

I think I'm giving up on this challenge...
I'd be honestly curious to hear how people deal with this.

[friarsol]

I've tried the Repressed Magic challenge several times since my comment, even with a specifically built deck.
No sorceries, only instants, summoning traps, harrow, naturalize, only basic lands... I've tried to consider everything this guys has ready for you.
But it's too much, I can't even the field and start my counterattack build-up fast enough before he destroys me.
And he still has counters, most of the time I can't even remove a small portion of his pre-built defenses.

I think I'm giving up on this challenge...
I'd be honestly curious to hear how people deal with this.

I'd look for: Instants, enchantments and artifact removal. Especially board wipes that come in those types. Cards like Pernicious Deed, Nevinyrral\'s Disk, Powder Keg. Also cards that can cheat cards into play. AEther Vial, Sneak Attack, Oath of Druids. How much life are you starting with? Are you using any pets? He's tough, but definitely beatable.

Even a Sligh deck can win if you blow up the Feroz's Ban on the first turn with like a Crush, and then run your normal super-aggro plays.

Edit: Wrong card for turn 1 artifact removal.

[mastroego]

thanx for the suggestions friarsol.
It seems like I need to expand my cardpool...
I'll try and find something suitable!

[serrasmurf]

thanx for the suggestions friarsol.
It seems like I need to expand my cardpool...
I'll try and find something suitable!

I'm getting curious to this challenge! can't remember doing this one.
For this kind of quests I usually try to have a Serenity and an Enlightened Tutor in my sideboard, hope they'll be enough to deal with this challenge too.

[tojammot]

Okay, here's a funny challenge idea. All I need are more flavorful cards.

Human: Blessed Spirits, Cruel Sadist, Cloistered Youth, Blood Bairn
AI: Forlorn Pseudamma (or Kindercatch)

The Boogeyman | Open

Main:
2 Pulling Teeth
2 Claustrophobia
2 Sensory Deprivation
2 Victim of Night
2 Terror
1 Spirit Away
1 Domestication
1 Dominate
1 Night's Whisper
1 Hero's Downfall
2 Forlorn Pseudamma
1 Fill with Fright
1 Dread Cacodemon
1 Spirit of the Night
1 Reach Through Mists

[Sloth]

Here is a new challenge:
AILife=20
HumanExtras=Orb of Dreams
AIExtras=Orb of Dreams|Orb of Dreams

Orb of Dreams | Open

24 Swamp|SOM
1 Amulet of Vigor
4 Meekstone
4 Juntu Stakes
4 Carrion Crow
4 Diregraf Ghoul
4 Tormented Hero
4 Mardu Skullhunter
3 Guardian Beast
4 Death Stroke
4 Assassinate

[Nordos]

Sloth, maybe including things like Sunblast Angel as well?

[Sloth]

Sloth, maybe including things like Sunblast Angel as well?

Well in a normal deck Sunblast Angel would be a nice additions, but i like my quests to feel like puzzles that you need to think about and prepare for. That's why the AI should get a consistent deck that plays predictable and doesn't need blowout cards like Sunblast Angel.

[Sloth]

Here is a new challenge that's supposed to force the player to build a deck without basic or dual lands:
AILife=20
AIExtras=Choke|Monsoon|Scald|Thoughtleech|Lifeblood|Sanctimony|Lifetap|Karma|Naked Singularity|Thran Dynamo|Thran Dynamo|Thran Dynamo|Thran Dynamo|Thran Dynamo

| Open

2 Frontier Bivouac
2 Mystic Monastery
2 Nomad Outpost
2 Opulent Palace
2 Sandsteppe Citadel
2 Arcane Sanctum
2 Crumbling Necropolis
2 Jungle Shrine
2 Savage Lands
2 Seaside Citadel
4 Bant Sureblade
4 Esper Stormblade
4 Grixis Grimblade
4 Jund Hackblade
4 Naya Hushblade
2 Boros Recruit
2 Dryad Militant
2 Figure of Destiny
1 Nip Gwyllion
2 Oona's Gatewarden
2 Rakdos Cackler
2 Scar
2 Scuzzback Scrapper
2 Slitherhead
2 Tattermunge Maniac
1 Beckon Apparition

[tojammot]

I have an idea for an endgame challenge:

Human: Mox Opal, Mox Pearl, Mox Sapphire, Mox Jet, Mox Ruby, Mox Emerald, Sol Ring, Library of Alexandria, Black Lotus

AI: Omniscience, Omniscience, Greater Auramancy

Against All Odds | Open

Main:
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Enter the Infinite
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Worldspine Wurm
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Progenitus
2 Time Stretch
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Plague Wind
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Heroes Remembered
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Blazing Archon
1 Void Winnower
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Archetype of Endurance
1 Conflux
1 Maelstrom Wanderer
1 Empyrial Archangel
1 Warp World
1 Prince of Thralls
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Bearer of the Heavens
1 Overwhelming Forces
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Beacon of Tomorrows
1 Invincible Hymn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Titanic Ultimatum
1 Elderscale Wurm
1 Violent Ultimatum
1 Novablast Wurm
1 Ancient Ooze
1 Damia, Sage of Stone
1 Cruel Ultimatum
4 City of Brass
4 Grand Coliseum
2 Vivid Crag
2 Vivid Creek
2 Vivid Grove
2 Vivid Marsh
2 Vivid Meadow
4 Tendo Ice Bridge

[Sloth]

I have an idea for an endgame challenge:

Human: Mox Opal, Mox Pearl, Mox Sapphire, Mox Jet, Mox Ruby, Mox Emerald, Sol Ring, Library of Alexandria, Black Lotus

AI: Omniscience, Omniscience, Greater Auramancy

Against All Odds | Open

Main:
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Enter the Infinite
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Worldspine Wurm
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Progenitus
2 Time Stretch
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Plague Wind
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Heroes Remembered
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Blazing Archon
1 Void Winnower
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Archetype of Endurance
1 Conflux
1 Maelstrom Wanderer
1 Empyrial Archangel
1 Warp World
1 Prince of Thralls
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Bearer of the Heavens
1 Overwhelming Forces
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Beacon of Tomorrows
1 Invincible Hymn
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Platinum Emperion
1 Titanic Ultimatum
1 Elderscale Wurm
1 Violent Ultimatum
1 Novablast Wurm
1 Ancient Ooze
1 Damia, Sage of Stone
1 Cruel Ultimatum
4 City of Brass
4 Grand Coliseum
2 Vivid Crag
2 Vivid Creek
2 Vivid Grove
2 Vivid Marsh
2 Vivid Meadow
4 Tendo Ice Bridge

That's a nice challenge.

To prevent the player from devastating the AI by destroying the Omnisciences turn 1 (i.e. Back to Nature.dck), i would add some instants or cards with flash like:
Spelljack
Desertion
Bogardan Hellkite
Pearl Lake Ancient
Summoning Trap

[tojammot]

That's a nice challenge.

To prevent the player from devastating the AI by destroying the Omnisciences turn 1 (i.e. Back to Nature.dck), i would add some instants or cards with flash like:
Spelljack
Desertion
Bogardan Hellkite
Pearl Lake Ancient
Summoning Trap

Done, also changed some cards and the manabase. I would've added Leyline of Anticipation but that would be too broken.

Against All Odds | Open

HumanExtras=Library of Alexandria|Mox Opal|Mox Pearl|Mox Sapphire|Mox Jet|Mox Ruby|Mox Emerald|Sol Ring|Black Lotus
AIExtras=Omniscience|Omniscience|Greater Auramancy
[metadata]Name=quest32
Title=Against All Odds
Difficulty=veryhard
Description=You have the most sought-after treasures, the world has everything else
Icon=Against All Odds.jpg
Deck Type=constructed
[main]
4 City of Brass
4 Grand Coliseum
2 Arcane Sanctum
2 Crumbling Necropolis
2 Frontier Bivouac
2 Jungle Shrine
2 Mystic Monastery
2 Nomad Outpost
2 Opulent Palace
2 Sandsteppe Citadel
2 Seaside Citadel
2 Savage Lands
4 Tendo Ice Bridge
1 Ancient Ooze
1 Archetype of Endurance
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Bane of Bala Ged
1 Blazing Archon
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Bogardan Hellkite
1 Damia, Sage of Stone
1 Draining Whelk
1 Elderscale Wurm
1 Empyrial Archangel
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Inkwell Leviathan
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Maelstrom Wanderer
1 Mindleech Mass
1 Novablast Wurm
1 Pearl Lake Ancient
1 Platinum Angel
1 Prince of Thralls
1 Progenitus
1 Reya Dawnbringer
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Surrak Dragonclaw
1 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
1 Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
1 Void Winnower
1 Worldspine Wurm
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
1 Desertion
1 Overwhelming Intellect
1 Spelljack
1 Summoning Trap
1 Beacon of Tomorrows
1 Conflux
1 Cruel Ultimatum
1 Enter the Infinite
1 Heroes Remembered
1 Overwhelming Forces
1 Plague Wind
1 Praetor's Counsel
1 Time Stretch
1 Titanic Ultimatum
1 Violent Ultimatum
1 Warp World
[sideboard]

[tojammot]

Hey, uh ,before I actually try committing this deck, what's the criteria on challenge rewards and specifications?