Card Development Questions

[jeffwadsworth]

Build 5398
Playing against the Aragorn Medium deck I think.
Grazing Gladehart triggering twice while in deck not in play when computer plays a land.

Everything like this works in the newest SVN. Bugs were squashed by Hellfish.

[friarsol]

Everything like this works in the newest SVN. Bugs were squashed by Hellfish.

Actually the Gladehart wasn't working but it was fixed in the SVN before this report was posted.

[jeffwadsworth]

Everything like this works in the newest SVN. Bugs were squashed by Hellfish.

Actually the Gladehart wasn't working but it was fixed in the SVN before this report was posted.

I noted the TriggerZones$ Battlefield and thought this issue was resolved.

[friarsol]

Yep. No worries. Corwin did say his revision number was before the revision that fixed the problem.

[Corwin72]

Build 5398
Baloth Woodcrasher triggered lanfall on me putting a land into play.

[jeffwadsworth]

Here is a test card that is causing me fits. Using r.5553 SVN.

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Name:Electropotence
ManaCost:2 R
Types:Enchantment
Text:no text
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Creature.YouCtrl | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Optional$ True | Execute$ TrigDamage | TriggerDescription$ Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay 2 R.  If you do, that creature deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
SVar:TrigDamage:AB$DealDamage | Cost$ 2 R | Tgt$ TgtCP | NumDmg$ X | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature or player.
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/electropotence.jpg
End

Yet, it will always deal 0 damage. Any ideas? I changed the X count to things like TypeInYourYard.Land and it did the same thing.

[slapshot5]

Here is a test card that is causing me fits. Using r.5553 SVN.

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Name:Electropotence
ManaCost:2 R
Types:Enchantment
Text:no text
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Creature.YouCtrl | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Optional$ True | Execute$ TrigDamage | TriggerDescription$ Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, you may pay 2 R.  If you do, that creature deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
SVar:TrigDamage:AB$DealDamage | Cost$ 2 R | Tgt$ TgtCP | NumDmg$ X | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature or player.
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/electropotence.jpg
End

Yet, it will always deal 0 damage. Any ideas? I changed the X count to things like TypeInYourYard.Land and it did the same thing.

Well, Count$CardPower will count Electropotence's card power, which is 0. Possibly use Triggered$CardPower

-slapshot5

[jeffwadsworth]

I just saw Hellfish's post. Yeah, that is it. Thanks.

[Hellfish]

That Electropotence code is technically incorrect, but it won't show 90% of the time. The card specifies that the creature that entered the battlefield deals damage, but right now, it's Electropotence that deals the damage. This matters if, say, a green creature of yours enters the battlefield and you try to use Electropotence to deal damage to a creature with Protection from Red. It should work, but it doesn't since the damage source is the red Electropotence.

Unfortunately, there's nothing to be done scripting-wise currently.

[friarsol]

Oh I didn't even notice the creature was the source of the damage. We could add an Optional SourceDefined in DealDamage to handle this. By default the source would be the hostCard, but in circumstances like this it could look up (though the Defined functions) what the Source of the damage would be and use that instead of the host card.

[Hellfish]

Yeah, that sounds good. Covers all the cases I can think of (admittedly not that many ,Electropotence Wing Puncture Ana Battlemage etc)

[jeffwadsworth]

I was looking at 3 cards in context of the new "remembered" addition to abilities. Seraph, The Wretched, Phyrexian Colossus.

Perhaps the following is already implemented...

Would it be possible to use remembered as the execution step in a trigger? For Phyrexian Colossus, we would then check the number of blockers, etc.

[Hellfish]

Remembered doesn't quite work that way. The only cards that get remembered currently are the targets of abilities, not targets of general damage. And by the time triggers get run, it's too late to do anything about the creatures blocking Phyrexian Colossus. :/

[friarsol]

And by the time triggers get run, it's too late to do anything about the creatures blocking Phyrexian Colossus. :/

Yea I think Phyrexian Colossus would need to have a keyword like MinBlockers:3 then in the appropriate AI section the AI would decide if he wants to block with that many creatures. If so the creatures are assigned as blockers in a section and all is well.

For the Human side of things I think the only "fair" way to handle this is let the Blockers get chosen as they are now. Once Blocking is finished, if all the Blocks are legal, we move on. Otherwise, all Blockers are cleared (or maybe the illegal Blockers are cleared) and the Human goes back to being able to Declare Blockers until a legal Block is setup.

[lazylockie]

Is there a way to code Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief using AB$Pump? I can make it -0/-X, but I can't link on the same line the +X/+0 part.

A:AB$Pump | Cost$ X | NumAtt$ 0 | NumDef$ -X | ValidTgts$ Creature | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature | SpellDescription$ Target creature gets -0/-X until end of turn.
SVar:X:Count$xPaid