Card Development Questions

[jeffwadsworth]

I've been trying Kookus (and there are a few similar "if you do / don't control a___" cards that could follow if this works). Can this line be tweaked to check for Keeper of Kookus during upkeep? Right now, it crashes Forge. I'm not sure about (a) using "IsNotPresent" in a trigger check; (b) whether IsNotPresent can look for a specific card name; (c) the syntax of the card name ("Keeper of Kookus" vs. "keeper_of_kookus", etc.):

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T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | IsNotPresent$ Permanent.Named.Keeper of Kookus | Execute$ TrigNoKeeper

IsNotPresent$ does not exist yet.

[Zirbert]

Thanks, Jeff - I'll add Kookus to my "Not Gonna Work (Yet)" folder.

[friarsol]

IsNotPresent$ does not exist yet.

It might work with IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0

[Zirbert]

IsNotPresent$ does not exist yet.

It might work with IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0

Thanks, but no go - it crashes on my upkeep when the trigger check goes off. The error starts with:

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AbilityFactory : SpellAbility was not created for Kookus. Did you add the API section?


Version:
Forge -- official beta: $Date: 2011-01-06 11:34:48 -0500 (Thu, 06 Jan 2011) $, SVN revision: $Revision: 4891 $

OS: Linux Version: 2.6.31-9-rt Architecture: amd64

Java Version: 1.6.0_20 Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.

Detailed error trace:
java.lang.RuntimeException: AbilityFactory : SpellAbility was not created for Kookus. Did you add the API section?
   at forge.AbilityFactory.getAbility(AbilityFactory.java:506)
   at forge.TriggerHandler.runSingleTrigger(TriggerHandler.java:237)
   at forge.TriggerHandler.runTrigger(TriggerHandler.java:188)
   at forge.PhaseUtil.handleUpkeep(PhaseUtil.java:320)
   at forge.Phase.handleBeginPhase(Phase.java:160)

Here's my check line:

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T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0 | Execute$ TrigNoKeeper | TriggerDescription$ At the beginning of your upkeep, if you don't control a creature named Keeper of Kookus, CARDNAME deals 3 damage to you and attacks this turn if able.

Edited to include test results. And for typos. Always for typos.

[friarsol]

And what does TrigNoKeeper look like?

[jeffwadsworth]

IsNotPresent$ does not exist yet.

It might work with IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0

That is clever.

[friarsol]

That is clever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO5wryDdEI0

[jeffwadsworth]

And what does TrigNoKeeper look like?

Probably like this:

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Name:Kookus
ManaCost:3 R R
Types:Creature Djinn
Text:no text
PT:3/5
K:Trample
A:AB$Pump | Cost$ R | NumAtt$ +1
T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0 | Execute$ TrigNoKeeper | TriggerDescription$ At the beginning of your upkeep, if you don't control a creature named Keeper of Kookus, CARDNAME deals 3 damage to you and attacks this turn if able.
SVar:TrigNoKeeper:AB$DealDamage | Cost$ 0 | NumDmg$ 3 | Defined$ You | SubAbility$ SVar=DBAttacks
SVar:DBAttacks:DB$Pump | KW$ HIDDEN CARDNAME attacks each turn if able. | Defined$ Self
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/kookus.jpg
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[Zirbert]

Here's my version of Kookus. It's like Jeff can see into my house. Must increase the tinfoil shielding.

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Name:Kookus
ManaCost:R R 3
Types:Creature Djinn
Text:no text
PT:3/5
K:Trample
A:AB$Pump | Cost$ R | NumAtt$ +1 | SpellDescription$ CARDNAME gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | IsPresent$ Card.namedKeeper of Kookus | PresentCompare$ EQ0 | Execute$ TrigNoKeeper | TriggerDescription$ At the beginning of your upkeep, if you don't control a creature named Keeper of Kookus, CARDNAME deals 3 damage to you and attacks this turn if able.
SVar:TrigNoKeeper:DB$DealDamage | NumDmg$ 3 | Defined$ You | SubAbility$ SVar=MustAttack
SVar:TrigMustAttack:DB$Pump | KW$ HIDDEN CARDNAME attacks each turn if able. | SpellDescription$ CARDNAME attacks this turn if able.
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/kookus.jpg
SetInfo:VIS|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/vi/86.jpg
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Edit: I must have had a typo in my last version. I retyped the whole thing, instead of copy-and-pasting, and Forge stopped crashing. Now Kookus deals 3 if the Keeper is missing, but doesn't have to attack. That's probably just because I don't have the Self parameter that Jeff put in that subability. And if I didn't need to be at work in 10 minutes I'd test that idea. This message will probably get edited again in, oh, nine hours or so.

[lazylockie]

I tried to do some of those, but I have some questions before making them:

Here are a few more blocks of what look like doable cards:

Alara Reborn

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Bant Sojourners <- is there a "whenever you cycle" trigger? (Sojourners, Lightning Rift , Astral Slide, Decree of Justice, etc)
Glory of Warfare
Gloryscale Viashino <- I've made it already
Grixis Sojourners
Illusory Demon
Jund Sojourners
Kathari Bomber
Mage Slayer <- I've tried, but Card.AttachedBy+CardPower doesn't work
Naya Sojourners
Nulltread Gargantuan <- Tried also, the tricky part is that it doesn't target
Retaliator Griffin?
Soul Manipulation
Spellbound Dragon
Wargate


Conflux

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Beacon Behemoth
Blood Tyrant(we can't do the second ability, but since we don't support multiplayer we don't need to)
Cylian Sunsinger
Elder Mastery
Esperzoa
Nacatl Hunt-Pride (Pump "CARDNAME blocks each turn if able.")
Scornful AEther-Lich
Suicidal Charge
Yoke of the Damned


Shards of Alara

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Banewasp Affliction
Blister Beetle
Bloodthorn Taunter
Branching Bolt
Cradle of Vitality?
Empyrial Archangel
Fatestitcher
Flameblast Dragon <- I've also tried, crashes on paying X. I'll try him again
Fleshbag Marauder
Gustrider Exuberant
Mosstodon
Ooze Garden
Puppet Conjurer
Qasali Ambusher
Rakeclaw Gargantuan
Realm Razer?
Relic of Progenitus?
Resounding Roar
Resounding Scream
Resounding Silence
Resounding Thunder
Resounding Wave
Scourge Devil
Sharding Sphinx
Sigil Blessing (trick: target creature gets +2/+2 creatures you control get +1/+1)
Skeletal Kathari
Soul's Might
Spearbreaker Behemoth
Sphinx Sovereign
Steelclad Serpent
Viashino Skeleton
Welkin Guide


[Hellfish]

The "Cycled" trigger mode just wasn't on the wiki. Sorry about that. It is now though!

Mage Slayer can be done using the Attacks mode and something like

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SVar:X:Triggered$CardPower


[friarsol]

Nulltread Gargantuan needs to use the Hidden$ True flag like other things that ChangeZone but don't choose until resolution.

[jeffwadsworth]

Cheers.

[Zirbert]

Thanks, guys - Kookus is now tested and working fine. I'm posting the completed version over on Card Contributions. Between the suggested logic test, fixing my boneheaded typos, and fixing my boneheaded failure to sync up the SubAbility names from one line to the next, we got it working.

Now, after all that work, I'm struck more than ever by the fact that Kookus, well, just isn't a very good card.

-Zirbert

[jeffwadsworth]

Does anyone see an issue with this script? It does not deal any damage to blocking creatures. Perhaps it is a timing issue.

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Name:Electryte
ManaCost:3 R R
Types:Creature Beast
Text:no text
PT:3/3
T:Mode$ DamageDone | ValidSource$ Card.Self | ValidTarget$ Opponent | CombatDamage$ True | Execute$ TrigDamage | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME deals combat damage to defending player, it deals damage equal to its power to each blocking creature.
SVar:TrigDamage:AB$DamageAll | Cost$ 0 | ValidCards$ Creature.blocking | NumDmg$ X
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/electryte.jpg
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