Card Contributions

[Starcrash]

"The creature that's targeted by Arcbound Fiend's middle ability doesn't have to have any +1/+1 counters on it. If it doesn't have a counter on it when the ability resolves, nothing happens." Where your script will try add a Counter whether or not the targeted creature has a Counter. We probably need a AF_MoveCounter for this to work properly.

I didn't even think to test whether it would get a counter if it didn't remove one. Of course it wouldn't have to. I wish I had a small child to playtest for me, because they'd think to try such a thing.

[friarsol]

I didn't even think to test whether it would get a counter if it didn't remove one. Of course it wouldn't have to. I wish I had a small child to playtest for me, because they'd think to try such a thing.

No worries. I hadn't even thought about that at first either, mostly just noticed the targeting issue. I generally look a card up on magiccards.info and they have interesting tid-bits like that to help out.

[Starcrash]

Name:Mysteries of the Deep
ManaCost:4 U
Types:Instant
Text:no text
A:SP$ Draw | Cost$ 4 U | NumCards$ 2 | SubAbility$ SVar=TrigLandfall | SpellDescription$ Draw two cards.
SVar:TrigLandfall:DB$ Draw | Cost$ 0 | NumCards$ 1 | ConditionPresent$ Land.YouCtrl+enteredBattlefieldThisTurn | ConditionCompare$ GE1 | SpellDescription$ Landfall - If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, draw three cards instead.
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/mysteries_of_the_deep.jpg
SetInfo:WWK|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/33.jpg
End

Though the card is pretty straight-forward, I can't make the description work. Whether drawing 2 cards or 3, the description reads "Human draws 2 cards. Human draws 1 card." Is there a way to set this up to draw "X" cards and then define X by checking the condition? (Like Dispense Justice does with Metalcraft.2.1?) Or perhaps overwrite this description with a more helpful one?

[Sloth]

Name:Mysteries of the Deep
ManaCost:4 U
Types:Instant
Text:no text
A:SP$ Draw | Cost$ 4 U | NumCards$ 2 | SubAbility$ SVar=TrigLandfall | SpellDescription$ Draw two cards.
SVar:TrigLandfall:DB$ Draw | Cost$ 0 | NumCards$ 1 | ConditionPresent$ Land.YouCtrl+enteredBattlefieldThisTurn | ConditionCompare$ GE1 | SpellDescription$ Landfall - If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, draw three cards instead.
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/mysteries_of_the_deep.jpg
SetInfo:WWK|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/33.jpg
End

Though the card is pretty straight-forward, I can't make the description work. Whether drawing 2 cards or 3, the description reads "Human draws 2 cards. Human draws 1 card." Is there a way to set this up to draw "X" cards and then define X by checking the condition? (Like Dispense Justice does with Metalcraft.2.1?) Or perhaps overwrite this description with a more helpful one?

You can make a subability with draw 3 cards. Give the first ability the condition of no such land being present and the subability of a land being present.

[timmermac]

Starcrash, two things about Arcbound Fiend. First, it looks like the creature you are stealing counters from doesn't have to be a Creature you Control (even though it feels like it should be). The other is this:
"The creature that's targeted by Arcbound Fiend's middle ability doesn't have to have any +1/+1 counters on it. If it doesn't have a counter on it when the ability resolves, nothing happens." Where your script will try add a Counter whether or not the targeted creature has a Counter. We probably need a AF_MoveCounter for this to work properly.

Looking at the mouseover text and at gatherer, there doesn't seem to be a requirement that you can only target a creature you control...

[friarsol]

Starcrash, two things about Arcbound Fiend. First, it looks like the creature you are stealing counters from doesn't have to be a Creature you Control (even though it feels like it should be). The other is this:
"The creature that's targeted by Arcbound Fiend's middle ability doesn't have to have any +1/+1 counters on it. If it doesn't have a counter on it when the ability resolves, nothing happens." Where your script will try add a Counter whether or not the targeted creature has a Counter. We probably need a AF_MoveCounter for this to work properly.

Looking at the mouseover text and at gatherer, there doesn't seem to be a requirement that you can only target a creature you control...

Is there an echo in here?

[Starcrash]

Name:Darksteel Pendant
ManaCost:2
Types:Artifact
Text:no text
K:Indestructible
A:AB$ Dig | Cost$ 1 T | DigNum$ 1 | DestinationZone$ Library | Optional$ True | LibraryPosition$ -1 | LibraryPosition2$ 0 | SpellDescription$ Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card on the bottom of your library.
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/darksteel_pendant.jpg
SetInfo:DST|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ds/113.jpg
End

Name:Mysteries of the Deep
ManaCost:4 U
Types:Instant
Text:no text
A:SP$ Draw | Cost$ 4 U | NumCards$ 2 | ConditionPresent$ Land.YouCtrl+enteredBattlefieldThisTurn | ConditionCompare$ EQ0 | SubAbility$ SVar=TrigLandfall | SpellDescription$ Draw two cards.
SVar:TrigLandfall:DB$ Draw | Cost$ 0 | NumCards$ 3 | ConditionPresent$ Land.YouCtrl+enteredBattlefieldThisTurn | ConditionCompare$ GE1 | SpellDescription$ Landfall - If you had a land enter the battlefield under your control this turn, draw three cards instead.
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/mysteries_of_the_deep.jpg
SetInfo:WWK|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wwk/33.jpg
End

While this is a cleaner version (thank you for the fix), it STILL has a messed up description, this time reading "Human draws 2 cards. Human draws 3 cards." Whatever, I'll keep playing with it. If I figure it out, I'll apply the fix to the other 4 like it and throw 'em up, too.

[Starcrash]

Name:Gemini Engine
ManaCost:6
Types:Artifact Creature Construct
Text:no text
PT:3/4
T:Mode$ Attacks | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigToken | DelayedTrigger$ DelTrig | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME attacks, put a colorless Construct artifact creature token named Twin onto the battlefield attacking. Its power is equal to CARDNAME's power and its toughness is equal to CARDNAME's toughness. Sacrifice the token at end of combat.
SVar:TrigToken:AB$Token | Cost$ 0 | TokenAmount$ 1 | TokenName$ Twin | TokenTypes$ Artifact,Creature,Construct | TokenOwner$ You | TokenColors$ Colorless | TokenPower$ X | TokenToughness$ Y | TokenAttacking$ True
SVar:DelTrig:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ EndCombat | Execute$ TrigSacrifice | ConditionPresent$ Creature.namedTwin | ConditionCompare$ GE1 | TriggerDescription$ At end of combat, Sacrifice the Twin token.
SVar:TrigSacrifice:AB$ Sacrifice | Cost$ 0 | SacValid$ Creature.namedTwin | Mandatory$ True
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Y:Count$CardToughness
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/gemini_engine.jpg
SetInfo:DST|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ds/121.jpg
End

[jeffwadsworth]

Starcrash, have you looked at the TokenTriggers$ keyword for tokens?

Something like this:

| Open

Name:Gemini Engine
ManaCost:6
Types:Artifact Creature Construct
Text:no text
PT:3/4
T:Mode$ Attacks | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigToken | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME attacks, put a colorless Construct artifact creature token named Twin onto the battlefield attacking. Its power is equal to CARDNAME's power and its toughness is equal to CARDNAME's toughness. Sacrifice the token at end of combat.
SVar:TrigToken:AB$Token | Cost$ 0 | TokenAmount$ 1 | TokenName$ Twin | TokenTypes$ Artifact,Creature,Construct | TokenOwner$ You | TokenColors$ Colorless | TokenPower$ X | TokenToughness$ Y | TokenAttacking$ True | TokenTriggers$ TrigSac | TokenSVars$ TrigSacrifice
SVar:TrigSac:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ EndCombat | Execute$ TrigSacrifice | TriggerDescription$ At end of combat, Sacrifice the Twin token.
SVar:TrigSacrifice:AB$ Sacrifice | Cost$ 0 | SacValid$ Self | Mandatory$ True
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Y:Count$CardToughness
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/gemini_engine.jpg
SetInfo:DST|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ds/121.jpg
End

[Starcrash]

Starcrash, have you looked at the TokenTriggers$ keyword for tokens?

Something like this:

| Open

Name:Gemini Engine
ManaCost:6
Types:Artifact Creature Construct
Text:no text
PT:3/4
T:Mode$ Attacks | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigToken | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME attacks, put a colorless Construct artifact creature token named Twin onto the battlefield attacking. Its power is equal to CARDNAME's power and its toughness is equal to CARDNAME's toughness. Sacrifice the token at end of combat.
SVar:TrigToken:AB$Token | Cost$ 0 | TokenAmount$ 1 | TokenName$ Twin | TokenTypes$ Artifact,Creature,Construct | TokenOwner$ You | TokenColors$ Colorless | TokenPower$ X | TokenToughness$ Y | TokenAttacking$ True | TokenTriggers$ TrigSac | TokenSVars$ TrigSacrifice
SVar:TrigSac:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ EndCombat | Execute$ TrigSacrifice | TriggerDescription$ At end of combat, Sacrifice the Twin token.
SVar:TrigSacrifice:AB$ Sacrifice | Cost$ 0 | SacValid$ Self | Mandatory$ True
SVar:X:Count$CardPower
SVar:Y:Count$CardToughness
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/gemini_engine.jpg
SetInfo:DST|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ds/121.jpg
End

That's clever. I had no idea what you were talking about, 'cuz the Forge Wiki [url](http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge ... tory#Token)[/url] doesn't mention TokenTriggers$ or TokenSVars$.

Stir the Pride

| Open

Name:Stir the Pride
ManaCost:4 W
Types:Instant
Text:no text
A:SP$ PumpAll | Cost$ 4 W | ValidCards$ Creature.YouCtrl | NumAtt$ +2 | NumDef$ +2 | PrecostDesc$ Choose one - | SpellDescription$ Creatures you control get +2/+2 until end of turn;
A:SP$ PumpAll | Cost$ 4 W | ValidCards$ Creature.YouCtrl | NumAtt$ 0 | NumDef$ 0 | KW$ Lifelink | SpellDescription$ or until end of turn, creatures you control gain "Whenever this creature deals damage, you gain that much life".
A:SP$ PumpAll | Cost$ 5 W W | ValidCards$ Creature.YouCtrl | NumAtt$ +2 | NumDef$ +2 | KW$ Lifelink | PrecostDesc$ Entwine 1 W | SpellDescription$ (Choose both if you pay the entwine cost.)
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/stir_the_pride.jpg
SetInfo:DST|Uncommon|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ds/16.jpg
End

[friarsol]

Well, Lifelink isn't the same as "Whenever this creature deals damage, you gain that much life" since Lifelink does not use the Stack and multiple instances of it are redundant, where the trigger does use the Stack, and multiple instances of it are not redundant.

[friarsol]

Here's some Weatherlight cards that look like they are doable (but might not be)

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Agonizing Memories
Ancestral Knowledge
Chimeric Sphere (without?)
Coils of the Medusa
Fire Whip
Goblin Bomb
Heat Stroke
Master of Arms
Mistmoon Griffin
Revered Unicorn (this hasn't worked in the past, but might with recent changes)
Sawtooth Ogre
Sylvan Hierophant
Well of Knowledge


[jeffwadsworth]

Revered Unicorn...hmm. Last time I checked, counters disappeared before they could be counted.

[friarsol]

Revered Unicorn...hmm. Last time I checked, counters disappeared before they could be counted.

Still have the script? I think ChangeZone works differently now.

[jeffwadsworth]

Revered Unicorn...hmm. Last time I checked, counters disappeared before they could be counted.

Still have the script? I think ChangeZone works differently now.

No, but I am checking it again. If this works, that would allow for quite a few other cards.