Card Contributions

[ArsenalNut]

As to getting Harmonic Sliver to work, try changing the static effect to "Affected$ Sliver.Other" and add a hardcoded ETB trigger that works for the original sliver only.

That's beyond my ability. I just dabble with code where I can see a pattern.

The trigger doesn't have to be hardcoded. Just a normal trigger with "ValidCard$ Sliver.Self" should be enough.

Hardcoded was a poor choice of words I meant a scripted trigger like Sloth suggested as opposed to trying to add the trigger by a static effect.

[Sloth]

Here is some cards. One is a real card, the other 3 I made up all using Triggers. Sword I made last year with MSE.

Hedron-Field Purists :

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Name:Hedron-Field Purists
ManaCost:2 W
Types:Creature Human Cleric
Text:no text
PT:0/3
K:Level up:2 W
K:maxLevel:5
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Card.Self | SetPower$ 1 | SetToughness$ 4 | CheckSVar$ X | SVarCompare$ EQ1
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Card.Self | SetPower$ 2 | SetToughness$ 5 | CheckSVar$ Y | SVarCompare$ EQ1
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Creature.YouCtrl | AddKeyword$ Absorb 1 | CheckSVar$ X | SVarCompare$ EQ1 | Description$ LEVEL 1-4 1/4 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control prevent 1 of that damage.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Creature.YouCtrl | AddKeyword$ Absorb 2 | CheckSVar$ Y | SVarCompare$ EQ1 | Description$ LEVEL 5+ 2/5 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control prevent 2 of that damage.
S:Mode$ PreventDamage | Target$ You | Source$ Card | Amount$ 1 | CheckSVar$ X | SVarCompare$ EQ1
S:Mode$ PreventDamage | Target$ You | Source$ Card | Amount$ 2 | CheckSVar$ Y | SVarCompare$ EQ1
SVar:Mana:AB$Mana | Cost$ T | Produced$ G | Amount$ 2 | SpellDescription$ Add G G to your mana pool.
SVar:Pself:
SVar:Pc:
SVar:Pselftwo:
SVar:Pctwo:
SVar:X:Count$Valid Card.Self+counters_GE1_LEVEL+counters_LT5_LEVEL
SVar:Y:Count$Valid Card.Self+counters_GE5_LEVEL
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/hedron-field_purists.jpg
SetInfo:ROE|Uncommon|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/roe/25.jpg
Oracle:Level up {1}{G} ({1}{G}: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.)\nLEVEL 1-4\n1/2\n{T}: Add {G}{G} to your mana pool.\nLEVEL 5+\n1/4\nElves you control have "{T}: Add {G}{G} to your mana pool."
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I've added Hedron-Field Purists (after a little clean up of the script). Thank you xanbie.

Here is the final script:

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Name:Hedron-Field Purists
ManaCost:2 W
Types:Creature Cleric
Text:no text
PT:0/3
K:Level up:2 W
K:maxLevel:5
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Card.Self | SetPower$ 1 | SetToughness$ 4 | CheckSVar$ X | SVarCompare$ EQ1 | Description$ LEVEL 1-4 1/4 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control prevent 1 of that damage.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Card.Self | SetPower$ 2 | SetToughness$ 5 | CheckSVar$ Y | SVarCompare$ EQ1 | Description$ LEVEL 5+ 2/5 If a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control prevent 2 of that damage.
S:Mode$ PreventDamage | Target$ You,Creature.YouCtrl | Amount$ 1 | CheckSVar$ X | SVarCompare$ EQ1
S:Mode$ PreventDamage | Target$ You,Creature.YouCtrl | Amount$ 2 | CheckSVar$ Y | SVarCompare$ EQ1
SVar:X:Count$Valid Card.Self+counters_GE1_LEVEL+counters_LT5_LEVEL
SVar:Y:Count$Valid Card.Self+counters_GE5_LEVEL
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/hedron_field_purists.jpg
SetInfo:ROE|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/roe/25.jpg
Oracle:Level up {2}{W} ({2}{W}: Put a level counter on this. Level up only as a sorcery.)\nLEVEL 1-4\n1/4\nIf a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control, prevent 1 of that damage.\nLEVEL 5+\n2/5\nIf a source would deal damage to you or a creature you control, prevent 2 of that damage.
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[moomarc]

As to getting Harmonic Sliver to work, try changing the static effect to "Affected$ Sliver.Other" and add a hardcoded ETB trigger that works for the original sliver only.

The trigger doesn't have to be hardcoded. Just a normal trigger with "ValidCard$ Sliver.Self" should be enough.

Hardcoded was a poor choice of words I meant a scripted trigger like Sloth suggested as opposed to trying to add the trigger by a static effect.

Alrighty then, don't I feel like a fool. I had actually considered that but then reasoned myself into a loop that didn't exist. Anyway, I've tried scripting them like that now but there's still a problem. The ETB trigger is going on the stack multiple times now when another sliver enters the field. And it seems to be an arbitrary number of times because I've seen different amounts go on the stack (possibly depending on mana cost). Its the same issue I reported the other day while trying to script Clash of Realities.

So here's the scripts if you want to test it and see what the problem is.

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Name:Harmonic Sliver
ManaCost:1 G W
Types:Creature Sliver
Text:no text
PT:1/1
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ HarmonicDestroy | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Sliver | EffectZone$ Battlefield | AffectedZone$ Stack | AddTrigger$ HarmonicETB | AddSVar$ HarmonicDestroy | Description$ All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
SVar:HarmonicETB:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ HarmonicDestroy | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
SVar:HarmonicDestroy:DB$Destroy | Cost$ 0 | ValidTgts$ Artifact,Enchantment | TgtPrompt$ Select target artifact or enchantment.
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/harmonic_sliver.jpg
SetInfo:TSP|Uncommon|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ts/240.jpg
Oracle:All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
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Mesmeric Sliver | Open

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Name:Mesmeric Sliver
ManaCost:3 U
Types:Creature Sliver
Text:no text
PT:2/2
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | OptionalDecider$ You | Execute$ MesmFateseal | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Sliver | EffectZone$ Battlefield | AffectedZone$ Stack | AddTrigger$ MesmericETB | AddSVar$ MesmFateseal | Description$ All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
SVar:MesmericETB:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | OptionalDecider$ You | Execute$ MesmFateseal | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1.
SVar:MesmFateseal:AB$Dig | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Opponent | DigNum$ 1 | AnyNumber$ True | DestinationZone$ Library | LibraryPosition$ -1 | LibraryPosition2$ 0
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/mesmeric_sliver.jpg
SetInfo:FUT|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/53.jpg
Oracle:All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1." (To fateseal 1, its controller looks at the top card of an opponent's library, then he or she may put that card on the bottom of that library.)
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[Sloth]

Alrighty then, don't I feel like a fool. I had actually considered that but then reasoned myself into a loop that didn't exist. Anyway, I've tried scripting them like that now but there's still a problem. The ETB trigger is going on the stack multiple times now when another sliver enters the field. And it seems to be an arbitrary number of times because I've seen different amounts go on the stack (possibly depending on mana cost). Its the same issue I reported the other day while trying to script Clash of Realities.

So here's the scripts if you want to test it and see what the problem is.

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Name:Harmonic Sliver
ManaCost:1 G W
Types:Creature Sliver
Text:no text
PT:1/1
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ HarmonicDestroy | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Sliver | EffectZone$ Battlefield | AffectedZone$ Stack | AddTrigger$ HarmonicETB | AddSVar$ HarmonicDestroy | Description$ All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
SVar:HarmonicETB:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ HarmonicDestroy | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment.
SVar:HarmonicDestroy:DB$Destroy | Cost$ 0 | ValidTgts$ Artifact,Enchantment | TgtPrompt$ Select target artifact or enchantment.
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/harmonic_sliver.jpg
SetInfo:TSP|Uncommon|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ts/240.jpg
Oracle:All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
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Name:Mesmeric Sliver
ManaCost:3 U
Types:Creature Sliver
Text:no text
PT:2/2
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | OptionalDecider$ You | Execute$ MesmFateseal | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1.
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Sliver | EffectZone$ Battlefield | AffectedZone$ Stack | AddTrigger$ MesmericETB | AddSVar$ MesmFateseal | Description$ All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, destroy target artifact or enchantment."
SVar:MesmericETB:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Sliver.Self | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | OptionalDecider$ You | Execute$ MesmFateseal | TriggerDescription$ When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1.
SVar:MesmFateseal:AB$Dig | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Opponent | DigNum$ 1 | AnyNumber$ True | DestinationZone$ Library | LibraryPosition$ -1 | LibraryPosition2$ 0
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/mesmeric_sliver.jpg
SetInfo:FUT|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/53.jpg
Oracle:All Slivers have "When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may fateseal 1." (To fateseal 1, its controller looks at the top card of an opponent's library, then he or she may put that card on the bottom of that library.)
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The Stack is a dangerous zone to mess with. I replaced "AffectedZone$ Stack" with "AffectedZone$ Exile,Graveyard,Hand,Library" and it works when a sliver is cast or put onto the battlefield from anywhere.

[moomarc]

Thanks Sloth. I'm not knowledgeable enough about the inner workings of the triggers so guess I just reasoned that when a card was cast it would have to go onto the stack, and therefore it had to be included in the affected zones. Ever so slowly I'll stop making these mistakes. I'll also apply to Clash of Realities.

[friarsol]

I just added Arcane Denial and Burnout which were two cards that we were having some issues with due to handling of SpellAbilities with Defined and CalculateAmount. I just tested these and they seem to be working as expected. We should be able to script similar cards like Hydroblast and Pyroblast using these same tricks.

[moomarc]

I just added Arcane Denial and Burnout which were two cards that we were having some issues with due to handling of SpellAbilities with Defined and CalculateAmount. I just tested these and they seem to be working as expected. We should be able to script similar cards like Hydroblast and Pyroblast using these same tricks.

Thanks Sol. Committed those two.

I also committed Torture Chamber. Molten Hydra can be converted to script only using the same script, but it would lose all the 'when to use me for what' logic that's been hardcoded. It's not so much of an issue for the TC because it's removed from AI decks anyway, (and even if it weren't it can't really do anything other than use its ability). Here's the scripted version:

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Name:Molten Hydra
ManaCost:1 R
Types:Creature Hydra
Text:no text
PT:1/1
A:AB$ PutCounter | Cost$ 1 R R | CounterType$ P1P1 | CounterNum$ 1 | SpellDescription$ Put a +1/+1 counter on CARDNAME.
A:AB$ DealDamage | Cost$ 1 T SubCounter<All/P1P1> | Tgt$ TgtCP | NumDmg$ X | SpellDescription$ CARDNAME deals damage to target creature or player equal to the number of +1/+1 counters removed this way.
SVar:X:SVar$CostCountersRemoved
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/molten_hydra.jpg
SetInfo:ULG|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/ul/85.jpg
Oracle:{1}{R}{R}: Put a +1/+1 counter on Molten Hydra.\n{T}, Remove all +1/+1 counters from Molten Hydra: Molten Hydra deals damage to target creature or player equal to the number of +1/+1 counters removed this way.
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[moomarc]

I've added Trepanation Blade. I had to add RememberRevealed and ForgetOtherRemembered to DigUntil. It works as expected but I wouldn't mind someone double-checking it for me (lines 982-989 in AbilityFactoryReveal.java)

Then go stab people with WotC's idea of a chainsaw...

[friarsol]

You shouldn't need ForgetOtherRemembered, just have a final Cleanup SubAbility to clear out the Remembered.

[moomarc]

You shouldn't need ForgetOtherRemembered, just have a final Cleanup SubAbility to clear out the Remembered.

Should I change to this? And if so, should I leave the ForgetOtherRemembered in the code seeing as nothing else uses it?

[friarsol]

I would prefer we use the Cleanup rather than a "ForgetOtherRemembered" ForgetOtherRemembered was added in a few cases before AF Cleanup existed. Using cleanup allows for a few things: no repetition of a code (removing a ForgotOtherRemembered clause in each AF), trustworthiness that the Cleanup will actually be called (instead of guessing if that API has it, clearing out the short-term Remembering immediately instead of waiting for the next usage.

I can't think of any cases where ForgetOtherRemembered is needed over a Cleanup AF. Can anyone else?

[Sloth]

I've looked at missing cards from Odyssey today and was surprised to find so many low hanging fruits. Here are those that are scriptable for sure (there are more i'm not sure about):

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Balshan Beguiler
Bloodcurdler
Bomb Squad
Decaying Soil
Demoralize
Devoted Caretaker
Dreamwinder
Epicenter
Graceful Antelope (use UntilHostLeavesPlay)
Gravestorm
Laquatus's Creativity
Mad Dog
Nantuko Mentor
Nomad Decoy
Painbringer
Patriarch's Desire
Pedantic Learning
Shower of Coals
Spark Mage
Spiritualize
Verdant Succession
Wayward Angel

[moomarc]

I've looked at missing cards from Odyssey today and was surprised to find so many low hanging fruits. Here are those that are scriptable for sure (there are more i'm not sure about):

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Balshan Beguiler
Bloodcurdler
Bomb Squad
Decaying Soil
Demoralize
Devoted Caretaker
Dreamwinder
Epicenter
Graceful Antelope (use UntilHostLeavesPlay)
Gravestorm
Laquatus's Creativity
Mad Dog
Nantuko Mentor
Nomad Decoy
Painbringer
Patriarch's Desire
Pedantic Learning
Shower of Coals
Spark Mage
Spiritualize
Verdant Succession
Wayward Angel

I also noticed this block was rather neglected the other day. I don't think it was the most popular (but that could just be because that's when I stopped playing for a few years). I've been trying to restrict myself from doing too many DKA cards, so make myself do at least one other card or conversion per DKA script. But that became too easy when I found these.

[fsntf]

I started playing right before this set came out, so I have some fond memories of it. I woul love to see Verdant Succession done, please!!!!!!!

[jeffwadsworth]

I've looked at missing cards from Odyssey today and was surprised to find so many low hanging fruits. Here are those that are scriptable for sure (there are more i'm not sure about):

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Balshan Beguiler
Bloodcurdler
Bomb Squad
Decaying Soil
Demoralize
Devoted Caretaker
Epicenter
Laquatus's Creativity

I will start at the bottom.