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Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 10:39
by Max mtg
Is it fine (that is as designed) that in quest mode player can do the following?
1. Import deck - and thus add any cards to his deck. (importDeck() method just adds them)
2. Add any amount or cards into his deck while he owns only one (WTR: start new quest, go to deck editor, add all the mythics into your deck, click on filters, add them again)

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 10:57
by Hellfish
IIRC, number 2 will cause a crash when actually trying to use the duplicates. Number 1 was added for people who really want a gauntlet mode added :)

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 11:41
by Chris H.
Number 2 is a bug.


Number 1 is complicated.

Some people want a Gauntlet mode. They want to play against the various AI decks that we see in quest mode ... but they do not want to be bothered with pets, booster packs or randomly generated card pools. The Gauntlet mode should be separate from the quest mode.

Some people like having pets and winning booster packs. But they do not want to create a deck from a randomly generated card pool. They want to use a precon deck instead. This involves play balance issues.

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 12:33
by Max mtg
Hellfish wrote:IIRC, number 2 will cause a crash when actually trying to use the duplicates.
It does not crash. I've been using this flaw for several weeks.

Chris H. wrote:Some people want a Gauntlet mode. They want to play against the various AI decks that we see in quest mode ... but they do not want to be bothered with pets, booster packs or randomly generated card pools. The Gauntlet mode should be separate from the quest mode.

Some people like having pets and winning booster packs. But they do not want to create a deck from a randomly generated card pool. They want to use a precon deck instead. This involves play balance issues.
Then anyway we should ban importing a deck into a deck editor.

For the ones who want to play gauntlet mode - let's give them an option to import their precon as they begin a quest. That would be a fair tradeoff: either you start with a random cardpool (which results from opening some 10-12 boosters) or a precon with no boosters at beginning of quest and (probably) limited number of rewards for each battle.

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 13:47
by Sloth
Max mtg wrote:For the ones who want to play gauntlet mode - let's give them an option to import their precon as they begin a quest. That would be a fair tradeoff: either you start with a random cardpool (which results from opening some 10-12 boosters) or a precon with no boosters at beginning of quest and (probably) limited number of rewards for each battle.
We can add a folder with Preconstructed decks and add the official ones which gos ported to forge (see: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=4807). The player can choose to start with one instead of the random pool. Advanced users can add their decks to the folder.

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 14:09
by Chris H.
Importing a precon deck at the start of a quest should also cost all of your starting credits.

Limiting your card pool and boosters to a specific set could cost half of your starting credits.

Having all cards available in your card pool and boosters should not cost any credits.

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 23 Aug 2011, 20:11
by Max mtg
I <3 your ideas.
So for now I'm removing import from quest-mode deck editor and shall fix the bug #2.

Re: Quest DeckEditor expoits

PostPosted: 24 Aug 2011, 18:29
by Jaedayr
Is it possible to keep the import deck mode under developer mode? It seems to me it should be a tool to help test/debug development more than an official game option.