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Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 14:03Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 14:22This is not a bug. Samurai of the Pale Curtain only affects permanents and not cards outside the battlefield.Hanmac wrote:Enemy controls Samurai of the Pale Curtain
i have Nyx Weaver, cards are send from the Deck to the Graveyard, and are not exiled.
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 11:43Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 14:48Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 16:00I think you're understanding of token ownership is incorrect. They changed this rule a few years back:drdev wrote:The Great Aurora is bugged. It does not count tokens you own towards the number of cards you draw. This completely defeats the purpose of a deck I just built, so if somebody could fix this, that would be great. Make sure it counts tokens you own that your opponent controls too, as otherwise the combo with Forbidden Orchard won't work.
Thanks.
-Dan
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 17:11It more importantly should count tokens. That said, are you sure you the owner of the effect that put the tokens into play doesn't own the tokens? That doesn't seem right.friarsol wrote:I think you're understanding of token ownership is incorrect. They changed this rule a few years back:drdev wrote:The Great Aurora is bugged. It does not count tokens you own towards the number of cards you draw. This completely defeats the purpose of a deck I just built, so if somebody could fix this, that would be great. Make sure it counts tokens you own that your opponent controls too, as otherwise the combo with Forbidden Orchard won't work.
Thanks.
-Dan
110.5. Some effects put tokens onto the battlefield. A token is a marker used to represent any permanent that isn't represented by a card.
110.5a A token is both owned and controlled by the player under whose control it entered the battlefield.
But you are right that this and Warp World should care about Ownership, not Control in cases like Gilded Drake.
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 17:29Why isn't it right? I quoted directly from the rules. Here's the M10 rules, #4drdev wrote:That said, are you sure you the owner of the effect that put the tokens into play doesn't own the tokens? That doesn't seem right.
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 17:43Can you test Avenger of Zendikar? I had him 7 lands and 7 tokens and only got 8 cards.friarsol wrote:Why isn't it right? I quoted directly from the rules. Here's the M10 rules, #4drdev wrote:That said, are you sure you the owner of the effect that put the tokens into play doesn't own the tokens? That doesn't seem right.
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazi ... eature/42a
Edit: Also, I just tested this and it counted tokens just fine. I cast a Dragon Fodder and had 7 cards in hand, and drew 9 cards (no other permanents in play)
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 20:17Definitely seems something off. I tried it twice. Once I got 2 cards (even though I had 7 cards in hand and 4 non-token permanents) and the next was somewhat different but still wrong. Will probably be better off recording the amount of valid cards in the appropriate zones, then Changing Zones, then drawing X.drdev wrote:Can you test Avenger of Zendikar? I had him 7 lands and 7 tokens and only got 8 cards.
Posted: 26 Jul 2015, 23:38So maybe it has nothing to do with tokens then. Are other similar effects broken, like Warp World?friarsol wrote:Definitely seems something off. I tried it twice. Once I got 2 cards (even though I had 7 cards in hand and 4 non-token permanents) and the next was somewhat different but still wrong. Will probably be better off recording the amount of valid cards in the appropriate zones, then Changing Zones, then drawing X.drdev wrote:Can you test Avenger of Zendikar? I had him 7 lands and 7 tokens and only got 8 cards.
Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 00:41Yea, this card was based on Warp World, so I'm sure it needs to be adjusted in the same way.drdev wrote:So maybe it has nothing to do with tokens then. Are other similar effects broken, like Warp World?
Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 20:08
Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 20:15Sounds like you've disabled your phase stop for Main 1. Check to make sure your phases are all set (red is skip, green is stop) the way you want them to.Triplant wrote:Hey Guys,
Don't know if this belong into this thread but since yesterday everytime I started a Game it skips my Precombat-phase automaticly. When I have a creature on the battlefield Forge sends me right into Combat and without a Creature it skips Combat-Phase too...
Veeerrry enoying
Anyone here who has the same Problem?
Quick response would be helpfull
Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 22:46Posted: 29 Jul 2015, 08:41