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Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2013, 23:21
by Max mtg
I am getting a bit bugged by that messages:
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Bird Pet has no Oracle text.
Bird Pet was not assigned any set.
Soldier Ally was not assigned any set.
Soldier Ally was not assigned any set.
Soldier Ally was not assigned any set.
Bird pet is backed by a text script, so it might obtain a setinfo line to be shown properly in CardDetailsPanel.
Looks like we'll have to add a hardcoded set 'Forge' - what do you think?

For the remaining tokens we should also define sets, but I don't know yet how. Quest challenges provide no sets for tokens to start game on battlefield.
The only input data are name+color+pt, so and I'm supposed to choose a set and a picture. Is that a solid reason to develop TokenDb?

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 20:05
by Sloth
From the rules perspective tokens do not belong to any set. I.e. City in a Bottle should not trigger on a token made by Rukh Egg.

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 21:44
by Max mtg
Sloth wrote:From the rules perspective tokens do not belong to any set. I.e. City in a Bottle should not trigger on a token made by Rukh Egg.
Alright, for the rules enforcement puprose we have
Rule 110.5b wrote:A token doesn’t have any characteristics not defined by the spell or ability that created it.
So I saw no card defining token's set.

It won't break anything even if we do assign expansions to tokens - see http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3A%22e ... rd&s=cname - all serious cards exclude tokens from their targets.

I am asking about tokens to choose and display a best version of a token, that is closest edition to the card that has originated it. And yes, to make them more alike ordinary cards - that is use less specific code for their creation

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 24 Feb 2013, 20:20
by Sloth
Max mtg wrote:It won't break anything even if we do assign expansions to tokens - see http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3A%22e ... rd&s=cname - all serious cards exclude tokens from their targets.
Well, a Clone could become the copy of a Rukh Egg token created by the ARN Rukh Egg and will falsely trigger City in a Bottle.

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 03:37
by Max mtg
Ok, what if I patch cardfactory so that when the ipapercard parameter is a token, current set is not assigned to resulting card, but the image is assigned correctly - i.e. according to the set of that token?

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 09:18
by Sloth
Max mtg wrote:Ok, what if I patch cardfactory so that when the ipapercard parameter is a token, current set is not assigned to resulting card, but the image is assigned correctly - i.e. according to the set of that token?
Sounds good.

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2013, 19:27
by Xitax
If you guys decide to go ahead and change the tokens, I'd like to volunteer to collect pics, rename tokens, and edit scripts. I've already done an attempt at set-specific tokens (which could be improved on) and I have collected most of the information I would need.

Re: Sets for tokens

PostPosted: 14 Apr 2013, 18:01
by LordHelmchen
As for the pics, Goblin Hero's picture torrent for Magic Album contains practicall all tokens, sorted by set, inside "ENG TOK.zip" within their respective subdirs. They're HQ, though, but batch-processing them down might be less work than hunting for LQ pics.