2000 cards limit

[0rion79]

replied in the CSV thread.

[stassy]

I use Excel 2003 myself - but for the manalink.csv I now use Open Office Calc, which is free for personal use.

Isn't Open Office no longer supported? I though the big switch was to Libre Office...

[Mok]

I'm currently playing a bit with card_data_t and noticed that there are cards recoded in C and yet not enabled, but versions in manalinkex.dll are used instead. Why is that? Are these broken? Examples: Gorilla Titan, Kami of the Crescent Moon etc.

[Gargaroz]

Dunno, but we have recoded some basic cards to work with the "rules expansion" we added (this is true for most of the card that "boost subtypes" or deals with +1/+1 counters. Check "recoded_cards.c", and don't mind strange stuff like Fire Elemental or Craw Wurm, I just injected some code for using them as tokens, but with the new limit we don't need that new code anymore.

[jatill]

I'm currently playing a bit with card_data_t and noticed that there are cards recoded in C and yet not enabled, but versions in manalinkex.dll are used instead. Why is that? Are these broken? Examples: Gorilla Titan, Kami of the Crescent Moon etc.

That was so we didn't have to look in a different file for each card. We threw everything into groups by color instead.

[Dave]

I know you people are almost ready breaking this 2000-limit. But i have another question for Mok, since it could help overcome the next limit (in 20 years from now)
Is it possible to separate the deckbuilder from duel play?
The only reason i can see to include all cards, would be the deckbuilder. But a deckbuilder needs no AI and can be made from scratch (and still look like the old deckbuilder) with a lot more search-options (like http://magiccards.info). Its only purpose would be generating a .dck file with the rigth card-id's.
For sealed deck play you could still use the old deckbuilder.
Duel play should only load the cards from the chosen decks in the 2k-array (or 30k-array by now). That way you never encounter another limit (except for decks with combined 2000+/30000+ cards....). Maybe it can be done too for the subtypes. Then that array (if it is an array) doesn't need expanding either.
Since the arrays will stay small in which the AI has to search, the computer needs no extra time in calculating his moves.

[Gargaroz]

Ok, the code is cleaned from "magic numbers" and "get_id_by_name" and similar, so as we got the final CSV, the testing could enter the final stage.

[gmzombie]

Awesome man good job. Very excited to see the development come along

[Mok]

I know you people are almost ready breaking this 2000-limit. But i have another question for Mok, since it could help overcome the next limit (in 20 years from now)
Is it possible to separate the deckbuilder from duel play?

Hm. I don't think deckbuilder can be easily separated but why bother? You can just write a replacement. This requires new db to reside in dll and export a couple of functions (and import and use a few from the calling application), that shouldn't be hard to implement to be honest. Besides, new limit? MtG exists for almost 20 years and they managed to create ~12000 cards...