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Posted: **13 Sep 2010, 14:31**

Hi,
It's been a long time since I last dusted off my MTG discs, however I've recently introduced my nephew and niece to the game and they're loving it.

Onto my problem. There used to be a red/blue (IIRR) deck with alot of Black Lotus' which involved you constantly changing cards by cycling your hand/graveyard and deck. Sorry I know it's not a very good description. I seem to remeber it was called Twisting Nether I couldn't find it when I used the custom installer and remember having issues finding it if you didn't install in the correct order.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Posted: **13 Sep 2010, 21:47**

If it has 'a lot of black lotuses' it's an illegal deck :p But it probably looks something like this:

4x Black Lotus
4x Mox Sapphire
4x Mox Ruby
4x Sol Ring
3x Island
4x Volcanic Island

4x Ancestral Recall
4x Time Walk
4x Timetwister
4x Black Vise
4x Copy Artifact
4x Howling Mine
4x Wheel of Fortune
4x Lightning Bolt
5 more cards to make 60, whatever, like it matters when you make a deck that breaks the restricted list like this :p

Posted: **14 Sep 2010, 08:32**

That looks to be the right deck. However it was one of the prebuilt decks in the game. Not that I mind as I can now recreate it

Thanks alot.
How does it break the restricted list? (Sorry as I said I've been out of the game for a while) I know they're no longer current cards and as such aren't usable. However I thought the only other limit was 4 of each card in a deck.

Posted: **14 Sep 2010, 10:17**

Well Vintage has a restricted list and all the cards in the deck are restricted to 1 copy per deck except Black Vise, Howling Mine and Lightning Bolt which you can have 4. In Legacy all the cards restricted in Vintage are banned.

Posted: **14 Sep 2010, 13:36**

That deck was included in the game would it really have been included if at the time it was an illegal deck? I'm not saying it's not now. Also IIRR one of the championship decks back then had several Black Lotus' in, will have to go on a hunt

Thanks again. (as you can tell I'm really getting back into the game)

Posted: **15 Sep 2010, 06:12**

It depend on what you mean by "deck shipped with the game".
If you own the original CD and the expansion, you could quick check that, but the earliest packaged version available was, I think, the one released at the underdog abandonware website which was already Mok-ed and contained already some custom player made deck.

The creatures in Shandalar using Timetwister are using only one in their deck so I guess the only earliest cycling deck ever made is Blue Death in 2004, quoting from gamefaq :

Deck Name: Blue Death

This deck controls the game out right.

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Lands Spells Artifacts
16 Island 4 Ancestral Recall 4 Black Vise
4 Braingeyser 4 Mox Sapphire
4 Time Walk
4 Timetwister

Total Cards: 40
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This deck in real life would also cost well over $4,000 to purchase.

This deck defines what blue has always done best: Control. With
Ancestral Recall and Braingeyser, you draw enough cards to find all
the Black Vise. All the while you play you play Time Walk to keep
your turns going and Timetwister to resuffle and have a second try
at finding the cards you need.

If done correctly, you can have all four Black Vise in play and have
several cards in your opponent hand. When I say several, I mean more
than a dozen or two.

This deck is now a bit obselete with counter deck using Leyline of the Void, but still it's a brutal 1 turn deck and also brutal for your wrist :mrgreen:

Posted: **15 Sep 2010, 08:23**

Thanks for all the information, looks like I've got alot of catching up to do

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An old deck I loved playing. Any help greatly appreciated.

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