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Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 20 Feb 2011, 06:23
by Salbei
Magic: The Puzzling
Challenge: 1-8
Unlocks: (Conundrum Sphinx)
Description: Solve several puzzles in a row. If you fail this challenge, make sure to restart the entire program before trying again.
NavigationChallenge Index - Archive for Set 1

Please do not post the solutions for this. Would be equal to offer a cheat.

Just ask for some hints.

Please discuss this Challenge here!

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2011, 15:08
by t0xica
i have a question on the 2nd challenge
i think i know the answer i get to kill the opponent
but my life are set to 0 and i have 10 poison counters on me
so after making the killing, it says is a tie, and i get the lose screen

there is something i not seeing?oris just a bug?

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2011, 16:53
by aww1979
On the first challenge, you'll need to set a stop on your upkeep phase. The 2nd challenge and one or two of the other ones require you to win during your upkeep. If you wait longer than that, you get exactly what you are describing.

If you or anyone else reading this doesn't know how to do that, you need to right-click on your upkeep and select "mark this phase to always stop". If you later don't want that stop, do the same thing to unstop it.

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2011, 18:11
by t0xica
Thanks a lot, probably that will solve the problem couldnt try it yet(im on a good run of the enter the dragon challenge) but it seems that was the problem
also ididnt know that is pretty useful, now i can use some cards properly

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2011, 20:07
by Shantak
From the archive, here's jatill's description of each puzzle of this challenge:

jatill's descriptions | Open
Below is the setup for each puzzle. If you want to be surprised, or want an additional challenge, do not read on.

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In all puzzles, you start with a deck of 60 Swamps. You skip your draw step.
You are at 20 life.
Opponent has cards in hand, and deck is all Swamps (60 cards unless specified).

1)
Opponent Life: 8
Your Life: 9
You in Play: 2 Swamp
You may add to hand: 2 Sorcery, 1 Creature
Win Before: End Step

2)
Opponent Life: 8
Opponent Deck: 10
You in Play: Badlands, Plateau
You may add to hand: 2 Instant
Win Before: Draw Step

3)
Opponent Life: 8
Opponent Deck: 2
You in Play: nothing
You may add to hand: Any 4 cards
Win Before: Draw Step

4)
Opponent Life: 72
Opponent Deck: 30
You in Play: 8 Island
Opponent in Play: Wall of Air
You may add to hand: Any 3 non-artifact cards
Win Before: End Step

5)
Opponent Life: 72
You in Play: 2 Mox Sapphire, 5 Ruby
You may add to hand: Any 3 non-artifact cards
Win Before: End Step

6)
Opponent Life: 22
You in Play: nothing
You may add to hand: 4 Creatures, 1 Instant, 1 Artifact
Win Before: End Step

7)
Opponent Life: 12
You in Play: Taiga, Crucible of Worlds
Your hand: Fireball
You may add to hand: 1 Enchantment, 1 Artifact
Win Before: End Step

8)
Opponent Life: 36
Your Life: 1
You in Play: nothing
You may add to hand: 3 Creatures, 1 Instant, 1 Enchantment, 1 Artifact
Win Before: End Step

9)
Opponent Life: 16
You in Play: 4 Badlands
Your Hand: Eye of Ugin
You may add to hand: Any 2 cards
Win Before: End Step

10)
Opponent Life: 34
You in Play: Forest, Forest, Swamp
You may add to hand: 1 Creature, 3 Sorcery
Win Before: End Step

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 24 Feb 2011, 01:38
by styler17
I've solved the first 7, but I'm finding that my solutions to a few of the puzzles require infinite loops that take forever to pull off (many many activations). Are other people having similar experiences, or am I overlooking something easier?

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 24 Feb 2011, 01:58
by aww1979
One of the ones that I originally used a loop for, I found a faster but less obvious way much later. The other one I'm pretty sure that's the only way to do it. If you found more than that where you were doing 'many many activations' then yeah, there's probably an easier solution somewhere, but you only have to do that challenge once anyway.

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 25 Feb 2011, 03:43
by Salbei
This should help anybody to prepare for the Challenge.
PLEASE DO NOT POST ANY SOLUTION!

Round1:
life[AI]: 8
life[HUMAN]: 9
in play: "Swamp" x2
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add 2 Sorcery and 1 Creature to your hand."
choices: "Choose sorcery #1"
choices: "Choose sorcery #2"
choices: "Choose a creature"
Warning:"Some rounds require you to win in your upkeep, so you want to set a stop there."

Round2:
life[AI]: 8
in play: "Badlands"
in play: "Plateau"
description: "Win the game before your draw step. You may add 2 instants to your hand."
choices: "Choose instant #1"
choices: "Choose instant #2"

Round3:
life[AI]: 20
Deck[AI]: 2cards
in play: "-"
description: "Win the game before your draw step. You may add any 4 cards to your hand."
choices: "Choose card #1"
choices: "Choose card #2"
choices: "Choose card #3"
choices: "Choose card #4"

Round4:
life[AI]: 72
deck[AI]: 30 cards
in play: "Island" x8
AI in play: "Wall of Air"
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add any 3 non-artifacts cards to your hand."
choices: "Choose card #1" (no Artifact!)
choices: "Choose card #2" (no Artifact!)
choices: "Choose card #3" (no Artifact!)

Round5:
life[AI]: 72
in play="Mox Sapphire" x2
in play="Mox Ruby" x5
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add any 3 non-artifacts cards to your hand."
choices: "Choose card #1" (no Artifact!)
choices: "Choose card #2" (no Artifact!)
choices: "Choose card #3" (no Artifact!)

Round6:
life[AI]: 22
in play: "-"
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add 4 creatures, 1 instant, and 1 artifact to your hand."
choices: "Choose creature #1"
choices: "Choose creature #2"
choices: "Choose creature #3"
choices: "Choose creature #4"
choices: "Choose an instant"
choices: "Choose an artifact"

Round7:
life[AI]: 12
in play: "Taiga"
in play: "Crucible of Worlds"
in hand: "Fireball"
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add an enchantment and an artifact to your hand."
choices: "Choose an enchantment"
choices: "Choose an artifact"

Round8:
life[HUMAN]: 1
life[AI]: 36
in play : "-"
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add 3 creatures, 1 instant, 1 enchantment, and 1 artifact to your hand."
choices: "Choose creature #1"
choices: "Choose creature #2"
choices: "Choose creature #3"
choices: "Choose an instant"
choices: "Choose an enchantment"
choices: "Choose an artifact"

Round 9:
life[AI]: 16
in play: "Badlands" x4
in hand: "Eye of Ugin"
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add any 2 cards to your hand."
choices: "Choose card #1"
choices: "Choose card #2"

Round10:
life[AI]: 34
in play: "Swamp"
in play: "Forest" x2
description: "Win the game before your 2nd main phase. You may add 1 creature and 3 sorcery to your hand."
choices: "Choose a creature"
choices: "Choose sorcery #1"
choices: "Choose sorcery #2"
choices: "Choose sorcery #3"

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 26 Apr 2011, 04:54
by andrehfloripa
So yea... I tried a couple days, and couldn't figure out at all how to beat challenge 9. I asked a few friends, but none of them could come up with an answer. I would like some hints, or help, or even a PM answer, because this challenge is driving me nuts.

Thank you

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 27 Apr 2011, 03:42
by andrehfloripa
I'm sorry, but I'm giving up. We've had four people thinking about #9, and nothing goes through. Apparently, the way to beat those 16 damage is just out of our reaches. This is the last challenge I have to beat (I actually have the answer for #10), and I guess it'll stay like that.

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 27 Apr 2011, 18:04
by juzamjedi
I promise you there is a solution to #9. For a hint, the way I solved #9 used an Enchantment and a Sorcery.

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:14
by andrehfloripa
juzamjedi wrote:I promise you there is a solution to #9. For a hint, the way I solved #9 used an Enchantment and a Sorcery.
Enchantment? How? You can only have a critter and 3 sorcs... no?

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 16:33
by juzamjedi
You asked about #9, which is "add any 2 cards". I used an enchantment and a sorcery to solve that one.

Did you need help with #10 instead? For a hint on #10, I would say it involves an old rule that was modified by the 6th edition rule changes.

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 28 Apr 2011, 17:07
by andrehfloripa
juzamjedi wrote:You asked about #9, which is "add any 2 cards". I used an enchantment and a sorcery to solve that one.

Did you need help with #10 instead? For a hint on #10, I would say it involves an old rule that was modified by the 6th edition rule changes.
Lol no, I needed 9 indeed. Sorry, I was sleepy

Re: Challenge 1-8 : Magic: The Puzzling

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2011, 00:45
by andrehfloripa
IT'S OVER!