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somacat wrote:Basically been playing these challenges all day lol. Day off work + new challenges + inherent addiction I guess...

Here's my list for Epic (one spell allowed per game):

.1027 3 Elvish Piper
.1902 4 Oath of Druids
.1198 1 Akroma, Angel of Wrath
.378 3 Hellkite Overlord*
.379 4 Bogardan Hellkite
.1675 1 Progenitus
.1226 1 Visara the Dreadful
.1531 3 Angel of Despair
.1585 3 Baneslayer Angel
.1888 4 City of Traitors
.1893 4 Forbidden Orchard
.1474 4 Wooded Foothills
.91 5 Forest
.711 4 Serum Powder
.1473 4 Windswept Heath
.1990 4 Tranquil Thicket
.1946 4 Treetop Village
.398 4 Bazaar of Baghdad

Unfortunately Serum Powder is pretty important for this list, and you need to complete the 5:1 challenge (Set 1 Challenge 7). Fortunately since it's 5:1 now instead of 10:1 that challenge is (probably) less likely to crash on you before you beat it. It's also available without having to beat the other challenges now.

Basically, you mulligan or use Serum Powder mulligans until you get a hand with Oath. Even a hand with Oath and no land is keepable, since there are quite alot of lands in the deck. Turn 3 Elvish Piper off a City of Traitors is plan B, I would even mull a 7 card hand with Piper to find Oath instead. Just be warned that using two Serum Powder mulligans will cause you to lose the game.

The Bazaar of Baghdads (and to a lesser extent the cycling lands and fetchlands) are there to find a Forbidden Orchard for the non-creature decks (Burn and Turbofog).

That's all of them now except Land Ho and Super Mulligan. I'm confident I can eventually beat Land Ho, as I have made it to the final round once. Super Mulligan on the other hand

But for now, I'm gonna take a break and get back to real life for a bit!

aww1979 wrote:Epic (unlocks Manabond)
-you can only cast one spell per game (well, except see below )

.1933 4 Figure of Destiny
.1453 4 Spectral Procession
.1932 4 Demigod of Revenge
.1964 4 Fulminator Mage
.1935 4 Kitchen Finks
.1418 4 Oversoul of Dusk
.1949 4 Wilt-Leaf Liege*
.1421 4 Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers
.212 4 Savannah
.1499 4 Temple Garden
.189 4 Plateau
.1876 4 Reflecting Pool
.241 4 Taiga
.1632 4 Sacred Foundry
.1192 4 Worship

I don't know whether Jatill intended this workaround of the epic problem (as some like Land Ho require abusing AI stupidity) but in any event, hybrid casting costs are unaffected by the epic thing. The worships turned out to be totally useless unless they were the first spell cast (the hybrids count as the epic spell) but I won the first gauntlet attempt so I never replaced them with anything; I'd have used Flame Javelin instead if I'd known that.

If you want to do it with a clearer conscience, my best successes were with this, but the furthest I got was about round 8 with it.

.1902 4 Oath of Druids
.1308 4 Platinum Angel
.508 4 Mishra's Factory
.1990 4 Tranquil Thicket
.1946 4 Treetop Village
.398 4 Bazaar of Baghdad
.438 1 Library of Alexandria
.1893 4 Forbidden Orchard
.1789 4 Havenwood Battleground
.91 7 Forest
.711 4 Serum Powder
.495 4 Feldon's Cane
.212 4 Savannah
.36 4 Circle of Protection: Red
.629 4 Eureka

Usually you want the Oath in your opening hand, but once you get it, wait a turn or two to make sure you aren't facing the red burn deck or the turbofog deck, because the oath usually fails against those. Manlands are there as a backup, and the bazaars and thickets are for recovering from too many mulligans. Havenwood Battleground lets you cast Oath by itself, and you could also use Geothermal Crevice, or whatever the other one is. I didn't bother because you don't really need them, and they got in the way of the manland tempo.

Other cards that might work as the epic spell are Eureka (or Show and Tell), Call of the Wild, Sneak Attack, Tinker, Academy Rector, and Elvish Piper. Oath is probably the best, though, but you could supplement it with some of the above.

jatill wrote:
I had a nice Epic deck that regularly cast turn 2 Eureka for the win, but I kept hitting a Force of Will deck somewhere along the line. So I used this deck instead. I guess it's technically cheating, since I had to invent cards to win the challenge

I'm guessing this list will be good for super mulligan also, since stack deck into bazaar = win.

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.681   4   Narcomoeba
.684   4   Golgari Grave-Troll
.700   4   Dread Return*
.691   4   Ichorid
.398   4   Bazaar of Baghdad
.390   4   Crop Rotation
.711   4   Serum Powder
.252   4   Tropical Island
.1488   4   Flooded Strand
.682   4   Unmask
.705   4   Bridge From Below
.675   4   Flame-Kin Zealot
.678   4   Golgari Thug
.680   4   Stinkweed Imp
.1728   4   Wasteland


aww1979 wrote:Epic (revisited)

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.684 4 Golgari Grave-Troll
.678 4 Golgari Thug
.681 4 Narcomoeba
.675 3 Flame-Kin Zealot
.700 4 Dread Return*
.398 4 Bazaar of Baghdad
.1967 4 Life from the Loam
.680 4 Stinkweed Imp
.711 4 Serum Powder
.705 4 Bridge From Below
.666 4 Cabal Therapy
.791 4 Goblin Lore
.403 4 City of Brass
.266 4 Volcanic Island
.1531 1 Angel of Despair
.691 4 Ichorid

The volcanic islands were a relic from having ancestral recall and time walk in here, but it doesn't really matter because you don't need any land at all besides the bazaars. It won my second gauntlet attempt, and the first was lost only because I made a mistake in understanding the concept of this deck.