Trigger BEFORE drawing a card?

[IceManOnline]

Is it possible to trigger an effect, exactly before I'm going to draw a card (or to get a pointer to the card(s) I just drew)?
I'm trying to implement the dredge-ability but I don't know how to react to the "if you would draw a card" rule.
I tried trigger "drew_card" and put TriggerObject() back to the library, but it didn't work. Maybe I did it wrong or the TriggerObject of "drew_card" is not the card itself...

So I don't know how to do it now, maybe someone can help me ^^

[DarkusChi]

Here is code to prevent drawing a card, from Yanna's Necropotence:

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<!--
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    Prevent the draw of a card in draw phase
    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    -->
    <TRIGGERED_ABILITY tag="NECROPOTENCE_RULE_1" forced_skip="1" layer="0" pre_trigger="1" zone="in_play">
      <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
        override = true
        return ( TriggerPlayer() == Object():GetController() and MTG():GetStep() == STEP_DRAW and
             Object():GetController():MyTurn() ~= 0 and Player() == Object():GetController() )
      </TRIGGER>
      <EFFECT>
      </EFFECT>
    </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>


may be of some use?

[IceManOnline]

Nope, that's the code for preventing the draw PHASE, not for preventing the draw...
I already know that code.

[DarkusChi]

Not stricty true, it prevents you from drawing a card during your draw phase, does not prevent the phase itself. the important bit is the prevention of the card drawing.

[IceManOnline]

That's true, you're right...
I just used the wrong keywords for my trigger...
It can't work with GetController, it must be GetOwner!

Thanks, now to the actual dredging part

[DarkusChi]

cool, glad it pointed you in the right direction
though I'm sure you've already solved it I had a go myself here's rule 3 for Dakmor Salvage:

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<TRIGGERED_ABILITY tag="DAKMOR_SALVAGE_RULE_3" forced_skip="1" layer="0" pre_trigger="1" zone="graveyard">
         <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
            if TriggerPlayer() == Object():GetOwner() then
               override = true
               return true
            end
         </TRIGGER>
         
         <PLAYTIME>
               ClearFilter()
               Object():GetFilter():SetPlayer( Object():GetPlayer() )
               Object():GetPlayer():BeginNewMultipleChoice( true )
               Object():GetPlayer():AddMultipleChoiceAnswer( "YES" )
               Object():GetPlayer():AddMultipleChoiceAnswer( "NO" )
               Object():GetPlayer():AskMultipleChoiceQuestion( "DREDGEQ_TITLE" )
           </PLAYTIME>
         
         <EFFECT>
            if Object():GetMultipleChoiceResult() == 0 then
               MillCards( Object():GetOwner(), 2 )
               ReturnThisCardToOwnersHand()
            else
               if Object():GetPlayer():Library_GetTop() ~= nil then
                  Object():GetPlayer():Library_GetTop():PutInHand()
                  Object():GetPlayer():Library_GetTop():GuidedReveal( ZONE_LIBRARY, ZONE_HAND )
               end
            end
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>   

[Shatterhouse]

Do you know how to stop it from dredging up multiple cards from the graveyard?

[IceManOnline]

I think you should put a register to the player which has to be checked too...

[DarkusChi]

Not a clue, just knocked it up quickly today So it may (will!) have issuses. None of the decks I'm building use Dredge (All too old!).

[Persee]

This topic gave me the idea to code Chains of Mephistopheles but i have a problem.

Once the ability triggers (by cast a Ancestral Recall for example), the timer doesn't run anymore and the computer do nothing.

I code only the " If a player would draw a card except the first one he or she draws in his or her draw step each turn, that player discards a card instead" of the card

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      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0"  internal="1">
         <TRIGGER value="COMES_INTO_PLAY">
            return SelfTriggered
         </TRIGGER>
         <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Set( 1, 1 )
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0"  internal="1">
         <TRIGGER value="BEGINNING_OF_STEP">
            return TriggerPlayerStep( STEP_DRAW )
         </TRIGGER>
         <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Set( 1, 0 )
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY internal="1" layer="0">
            <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
              return TriggerPlayerStep( STEP_DRAW )
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Set( 1, 1 )
            </EFFECT>
       </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY tag="CHAINS_OF_MEPHISTOPHELES_RULE_1" forced_skip="1" layer="0" pre_trigger="1" zone="in_play" >
         <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
            if Object():Register_Get(1) == 1 then
            override = true
            return true
            end
         </TRIGGER>
         <EFFECT>
            TriggerPlayerDiscardsACard()
         </EFFECT>
       </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

[IceManOnline]

I can't help with your problem, I had the same issue when I tried to trigger for "me", not "Owner"...

To the dredge-problematic with multiple triggers. I think, we need 3 multiple-choice answers.
1. Dredge with this card
2. Dredge another card
3. Draw a card
Then we have to set a register and reset it. The only problem is, when to reset? You'll have multiple chances to draw cards in a dredge deck...

[Shatterhouse]

Maybe... set the register on all other cards in your graveyard, and only allow the Dredge card to be put in your hand if the register is not set? So yeah, it'll trigger a bunch of times and resolve a bunch of times, but only one card per draw should make it back into your hand.

[IceManOnline]

But when to reset the register?
Just imagine Ancestral Recall. With the above code, every card with Dredge will trigger for every draw.
But you only need 3 cards to trigger and right after Ancestral Recall is resolved, you need to reset the register, so it can be used again for the next draw...

Maybe it's possible to make a multiple choice with all the dredge cards in graveyard. So you can actually choose the card you want to use.
Maybe create a new badge for theses cards (like the ones with Flash etc) and just read all the cards with it and put it into a multiple choice.

[IceManOnline]

I think, the best way to handle it, is with a separate card...

Maybe like a dredge-land (or a completely separate card that's exile at start of match, like the draft-card). It doesn't matter if it is in lib or grave or whatever. Whenever you draw a card, it triggers and let's you target a card which BADGE_DREDGE (not there right now, have to test if I can set new badges). If you target one it dredges, if not you draw your card...
Then the dredge-cards have to trigger for zonechange graveyard->hand and a register to mill cards.
Opinion?

[Persee]

Here's the code for Chains of Mephistopheles
But i have the same problem than you with dredge : even if 2 chains are on the battleground only one trigger when a player draw.

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      <STATIC_ABILITY layer="0" internal="1" >
         <FILTER>
            return EnchantmentsInPlay() and Subject() ~= Object() and Object():GetRef() == Subject():GetRef() and Subject():Register_Get(5) == 1
         </FILTER>
         <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Set(6,1)
         </EFFECT>

      </STATIC_ABILITY>
      
        <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0"  internal="1">
            <TRIGGER value="END_OF_STEP">
                return EveryEndStep()
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Clear(5)
            </EFFECT>
        </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

        <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0"  internal="1">
            <TRIGGER value="BEGINNING_OF_STEP">
                return TriggerPlayerStep( STEP_DRAW )
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Set( 1, 0 )
            </EFFECT>
        </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

        <TRIGGERED_ABILITY internal="1" layer="0">
            <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
                  return TriggerPlayerStep( STEP_DRAW )
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
                Object():Register_Set( 1, 1 )
            </EFFECT>
        </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

        <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0" internal="1" >
            <TRIGGER value="COMES_INTO_PLAY">
                return SelfTriggered()
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
                Object():Register_Set( 1, 1 )
            </EFFECT>
        </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>
      
      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0" tag="CHAINS_OF_MEPHISTOPHELES_RULE_1" pre_trigger="1" >
         <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD">
            if ( Object():Register_Get(1) ~= 0 and Object():Register_Get(4) == 0 ) then
                  override = true
                  return true
            end
            return false       
            </TRIGGER>
            <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Clear(5)
            Object():Register_Set(2,1)
            Object():Register_Player_Set( 0, TriggerPlayer() )
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>
      
   
      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0" dont_ask="1" >
         <TRIGGER value="ABILITY_RESOLVED">
            return SelfTriggered() and Object():Register_Get(2) == 1
         </TRIGGER>
         <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Clear(2)
            if CountCardsInHand( Object():Register_Player_Get( 0 ) ) &gt; 0
               then
               Object():Register_Player_Get(0):DiscardNCards( 1, "ChooseCardToDiscard" )
               Object():Register_Set(3,1)
               else
               MillCards( Object():Register_Player_Get(0), 1 )
            end
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

      <TRIGGERED_ABILITY layer="0" dont_ask="1" >
         <TRIGGER value="ABILITY_RESOLVED">
            return SelfTriggered() and Object():Register_Get(3) == 1
         </TRIGGER>
         <EFFECT>
            Object():Register_Clear(3)
            if   ( Object():Register_Get(6) == 0 ) then
               Object():Register_Set(4,1)
               Object():Register_Set(5,1)
               Object():Register_Player_Get(0):DrawCard()
               Object():Register_Clear(4)
            else
               Object():Register_Clear(6)
               Object():Register_Player_Get(0):Library_GetTop():PutInHand()
            end         
         </EFFECT>
      </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>