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DotP 2014 Sealed cardpool discussion thread
by sumomole » 13 Jun 2013, 05:11
I saw this post, is it really the official sealed card pool? I saw Mwonvuli Beast Tracker.
{This is a work in progress}
WHITE
1 x Pillarfield Ox
1 x Pacifism
1 x Spirit Mantle
1 x Stave Off
1 x Suntail Hawk
1 x Sentinel Sliver
1 x Solemn Offering
1 x Indestructibility
1 x Safe Passage
1 x Roc Egg
1 x Mighty Leap
1 x Angelic Destiny
1 x War Priest of Thune
1 x Healer of the Pride
1 x White Knight
1 x Serra Angel
1 x Day of Judgment
1 x Angelic Arbiter
1 x Dawnstrike Paladin
1 x Charging Griffin
1 x Honor of the Pure
1 x Condemn
1 x Master of Diversion
BLUE
1 x Scroll Thief
1 x Belltower Sphinx
1 x Tricks of the Trade
1 x Phantasmal Dragon
1 x Turn to Frog
1 x Essence Scatter
1 x Divination
1 x Frost Breath
1 x Djinn of Wishes
1 x Archaeomancer
1 x Harbor Serpent
1 x Maritime Guard
1 x Sleep
1 x Disorient
1 x Mind Spring
1 x Void Stalker
1 x Master Thief
1 x Switcheroo
1 x Faerie Invaders
1 x Unsummon
1 x Trained Condor
1 x Clone
1 x Glimpse the Future
1 x Fog Bank
BLACK
1 x Tormented Soul
1 x Distress
1 x Taste of Blood
1 x Ravenous Rats
1 x Rune-Scarred Demon
1 x Rotting Legion
1 x Giant Scorpion
1 x Nightmare
1 x Bloodhunter Bat
1 x Mark of the Vampire
1 x Assassinate
1 x Rise from the Grave
1 x Gravedigger
1 x Grave Titan
1 x Black Knight
1 x Sign in Blood
1 x Murder
1 x Xathrid Demon
1 x Public Execution
1 x Minotaur Abomination
1 x Vampire Nighthawk
RED
1 x Fire Servant
1 x Goblin War Paint
1 x Goblin Shortcutter
1 x Blur Sliver
1 x Tectonic Rift
1 x Volcanic Dragon
1 x Shock
1 x Flames of the Firebrand
1 x Bonebreaker Giant
1 x Turn to Slag
1 x Act of Treason
1 x Earth Servant
1 x Regathan Firecat
1 x Molten Birth
1 x Destructive Force
1 x Striking Sliver
1 x Firewing Phoenix
1 x Slaughter Cry
1 x Young Pyromancer
1 x Marauding Maulhorn
1 x Earthquake
1 x Awaken the Ancient
1 x Volcanic Geyser
1 x Shivan Dragon
GREEN
1 x Deadly Recluse
1 x Fog
1 x Garruk's Packleader
1 x Silklash Spider
1 x Yavimaya Wurm
1 x Giant Growth
1 x Plummet
1 x Enlarge
1 x Advocate of the Beast
1 x Hunt the Weak
1 x Predatory Sliver
1 x Dungrove Elder
1 x Overwhelming Stampede
1 x Protean Hydra
1 x Rumbling Baloth
1 x Oakenform
1 x Briarpack Alpha
1 x Mwonvuli Beast Tracker
1 x Rampant Growth
ARTIFACT
1 x Crumbling Colossus
1 x Jinxed Idol
1 x Elixir of Immortality
1 x Swiftfoot Boots
1 x Staff of the Wild Magus
1 x Staff of the Mind Magus
1 x Staff of the Sun Magus
1 x Staff of the Death Magus
1 x Staff of the Flame Magus
1 x Brittle Effigy
1 x Door to Nothingness
1 x Leonin Scimitar
LANDS
1 x Terramorphic Expanse
{This is a work in progress}
WHITE
1 x Pillarfield Ox
1 x Pacifism
1 x Spirit Mantle
1 x Stave Off
1 x Suntail Hawk
1 x Sentinel Sliver
1 x Solemn Offering
1 x Indestructibility
1 x Safe Passage
1 x Roc Egg
1 x Mighty Leap
1 x Angelic Destiny
1 x War Priest of Thune
1 x Healer of the Pride
1 x White Knight
1 x Serra Angel
1 x Day of Judgment
1 x Angelic Arbiter
1 x Dawnstrike Paladin
1 x Charging Griffin
1 x Honor of the Pure
1 x Condemn
1 x Master of Diversion
BLUE
1 x Scroll Thief
1 x Belltower Sphinx
1 x Tricks of the Trade
1 x Phantasmal Dragon
1 x Turn to Frog
1 x Essence Scatter
1 x Divination
1 x Frost Breath
1 x Djinn of Wishes
1 x Archaeomancer
1 x Harbor Serpent
1 x Maritime Guard
1 x Sleep
1 x Disorient
1 x Mind Spring
1 x Void Stalker
1 x Master Thief
1 x Switcheroo
1 x Faerie Invaders
1 x Unsummon
1 x Trained Condor
1 x Clone
1 x Glimpse the Future
1 x Fog Bank
BLACK
1 x Tormented Soul
1 x Distress
1 x Taste of Blood
1 x Ravenous Rats
1 x Rune-Scarred Demon
1 x Rotting Legion
1 x Giant Scorpion
1 x Nightmare
1 x Bloodhunter Bat
1 x Mark of the Vampire
1 x Assassinate
1 x Rise from the Grave
1 x Gravedigger
1 x Grave Titan
1 x Black Knight
1 x Sign in Blood
1 x Murder
1 x Xathrid Demon
1 x Public Execution
1 x Minotaur Abomination
1 x Vampire Nighthawk
RED
1 x Fire Servant
1 x Goblin War Paint
1 x Goblin Shortcutter
1 x Blur Sliver
1 x Tectonic Rift
1 x Volcanic Dragon
1 x Shock
1 x Flames of the Firebrand
1 x Bonebreaker Giant
1 x Turn to Slag
1 x Act of Treason
1 x Earth Servant
1 x Regathan Firecat
1 x Molten Birth
1 x Destructive Force
1 x Striking Sliver
1 x Firewing Phoenix
1 x Slaughter Cry
1 x Young Pyromancer
1 x Marauding Maulhorn
1 x Earthquake
1 x Awaken the Ancient
1 x Volcanic Geyser
1 x Shivan Dragon
GREEN
1 x Deadly Recluse
1 x Fog
1 x Garruk's Packleader
1 x Silklash Spider
1 x Yavimaya Wurm
1 x Giant Growth
1 x Plummet
1 x Enlarge
1 x Advocate of the Beast
1 x Hunt the Weak
1 x Predatory Sliver
1 x Dungrove Elder
1 x Overwhelming Stampede
1 x Protean Hydra
1 x Rumbling Baloth
1 x Oakenform
1 x Briarpack Alpha
1 x Mwonvuli Beast Tracker
1 x Rampant Growth
ARTIFACT
1 x Crumbling Colossus
1 x Jinxed Idol
1 x Elixir of Immortality
1 x Swiftfoot Boots
1 x Staff of the Wild Magus
1 x Staff of the Mind Magus
1 x Staff of the Sun Magus
1 x Staff of the Death Magus
1 x Staff of the Flame Magus
1 x Brittle Effigy
1 x Door to Nothingness
1 x Leonin Scimitar
LANDS
1 x Terramorphic Expanse
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by BloodReyvyn » 13 Jun 2013, 06:39
Sure hope it's true. Would further prove we can look for card characteristics on cards in any zone, which would be amazing.
EDIT: Personally, I am a little more interested currently in whether or not we will have to add sealed deck cards via a whole other deck, or if all cards in playable decks will be available in the pool for sealed.
EDIT: Personally, I am a little more interested currently in whether or not we will have to add sealed deck cards via a whole other deck, or if all cards in playable decks will be available in the pool for sealed.
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Re: DotP 2014 Sealed cardpool discussion thread
by NEMESiS » 13 Jun 2013, 12:44
Apparently someone spotted it but after looking through the forum and pictures I could not find anything on that card. Lets hope it truely is there.sumomole wrote:I saw this post, is it really the official sealed card pool? I saw Mwonvuli Beast Tracker.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by NEMESiS » 15 Jun 2013, 15:17
New article from top tier tactics:
http://www.toptiertactics.com/18820/e3- ... pressions/
http://www.toptiertactics.com/18820/e3- ... pressions/
Each player receives two slots for sealed decks, each with its own nine-booster pool. If gamers want to expand their options or bet on lady luck, they can purchase additional sealed deck slots (up to a maximum of 18, 20 total) for $2 each. The representatives at Wizards were certain in saying that slots are account bound, so players wouldn’t be able to delete their sealed decks and start fresh. Whether that’s true or not, I’ll let the hackers decide. Duels has never been a series well known for data security.
While we’re on that point, I should mention that Promo Unlocks (extra cards beyond the base unlockables) will be making a return in Magic 2014.
I was disappointed to learn no other real tweaks were made. Priority is still a first come, first serve affair (in contrast to the real rules of Magic), and timers all seem to be tied to the same default speed. I was really hoping to learn that players would have more time for complicated actions (like assigning blockers) and less time for stupid effects (like Rite of Replicated Soul Wardens). And even though players have complete control over their land counts in Sealed Deck mode, that option is not available with the game’s preconstructed piles.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by sumomole » 15 Jun 2013, 15:35
D14 isn't $10, it's $46!!!NEMESiS wrote:New article from top tier tactics:
http://www.toptiertactics.com/18820/e3- ... pressions/Each player receives two slots for sealed decks, each with its own nine-booster pool. If gamers want to expand their options or bet on lady luck, they can purchase additional sealed deck slots (up to a maximum of 18, 20 total) for $2 each. The representatives at Wizards were certain in saying that slots are account bound, so players wouldn’t be able to delete their sealed decks and start fresh. Whether that’s true or not, I’ll let the hackers decide. Duels has never been a series well known for data security.While we’re on that point, I should mention that Promo Unlocks (extra cards beyond the base unlockables) will be making a return in Magic 2014.I was disappointed to learn no other real tweaks were made. Priority is still a first come, first serve affair (in contrast to the real rules of Magic), and timers all seem to be tied to the same default speed. I was really hoping to learn that players would have more time for complicated actions (like assigning blockers) and less time for stupid effects (like Rite of Replicated Soul Wardens). And even though players have complete control over their land counts in Sealed Deck mode, that option is not available with the game’s preconstructed piles.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by BloodReyvyn » 15 Jun 2013, 19:58
Well, that's kind of bull... I am sure we will be able to hack around it on PC (probably as simple as deleting the deck), but if you get a horrible set of packs on a console version... or 20 horrible sets of packs... guess you're screwed out of a whole chunk of the game.
They'll probably start charging people $20 to clear out all of their sealed decks (no option to do just one lol) 6 months after the game's been out.
Was kinda glad I already got my copy paid for, not going to bother with the sealed deck slots right away, going to hope that we can unlock those another way. When they make a relatively bug-free game, with fewer limits (token and +1/+1 counters, engine limitations are a whole other discussion), and no crashing I may consider their DotP games to be possible worth $40-60. With the price tag of $10, I am expecting bug city again... and they are totally over-charging for the sealed deck slots. Sure it's cheaper than making a real sealed deck, but at least then you would HAVE the cards and be able to trade or sell them for something in return/// so maybe it's about the same really...
They'll probably start charging people $20 to clear out all of their sealed decks (no option to do just one lol) 6 months after the game's been out.
Was kinda glad I already got my copy paid for, not going to bother with the sealed deck slots right away, going to hope that we can unlock those another way. When they make a relatively bug-free game, with fewer limits (token and +1/+1 counters, engine limitations are a whole other discussion), and no crashing I may consider their DotP games to be possible worth $40-60. With the price tag of $10, I am expecting bug city again... and they are totally over-charging for the sealed deck slots. Sure it's cheaper than making a real sealed deck, but at least then you would HAVE the cards and be able to trade or sell them for something in return/// so maybe it's about the same really...
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by thefiremind » 16 Jun 2013, 12:47
"Account bound"? Is this World of Warcraft or DotP? Well, it won't be a big deal for us once we start to get the modding scene running on the new game.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by NEMESiS » 24 Jun 2013, 18:27
Well evenfall has spoiled the promotional cards (he has been a trusty source in the past):
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/ ... Magic_2014
BTW, he says that there will be 3 expansions planned for 2014.
http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/ ... Magic_2014
Nice to see snapcaster mage there.Avacyn’s Glory
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Baneslayer Angel
Path to Exile
Knight of the White Orchid
Sunblast Angel
Dearly Departed
Devout Invocation
Honor of the Pure
Champion of the Parish
Geist-Honored Monk
Increasing Devotion
Chant of Mul Daya
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Avenger of Zendikar
Green Sun's Zenith
Summoning Trap
Harmonize
It That Betrays
Dramatic Entrance
Primeval Titan
Fierce Empath
Gaea's Revenge
All is Dust
Deadwalkers
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Grave Titan
Reanimate
Undead Warchief
Demon of Death's Gate
Gravespawn Sovereign
Nightmare
Rise of the Dark Realms
Avatar of Woe
Death Cloud
Graveborn Muse
Enter the Dracomancer
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Crucible of Fire
Savage Twister
Dragon Roost
Explosive Vegetation
Kilnmouth Dragon
Dragon Broodmother
Explosive Vegetation
Maelstrom Pulse
Archwing Dragon
Sneak Attack
Firewave
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Furnace of Rath
Slith Firewalker
Stormblood Berserker
Relentless Assault
Cyclops Gladiator
Flame Wave
Flameblast Dragon
Browbeat
Disintegrate
Cone of Flame
Guardians of Light
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Seraph of the Sword
Angelic Destiny
Kor Spiritdancer
Nomad Mythmaker
Daybreak Coronet
True Conviction
Three Dreams
Armored Ascension
Sigil of the New Dawn
Greater Auramancy
Hunter's Strength
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Fauna Shaman
Rampaging Baloths
Pulse of the Tangle
Protean Hulk
Decree of Savagery
Vigor
Green Sun's Zenith
Vorapede
Crush of Wurms
Terastodon
Masks of the Dimir
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Colossal Whale
Spinal Embrace
Reins of Power
Shadowborn Demon
Evil Twin
Ghastlord of Fugue
Followed Footsteps
Painful Quandary
Hollowborn Barghest
Commandeer
Mind Maze
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Sphinx of Magosi
Counterspell
Mirror-Mad Phantasm
Mind Control
Force of Will
Temporal Mastery
Chronozoa
Cryptic Command
Snapcaster Mage
Time Reversal
Sliver Hive
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Titanic Ultimatum
Megantic Sliver
Thorncaster Sliver
Unflinching Courage
Shared Animosity
Mirror Entity
Inferno
Faith's Fetters
Indestructibility
BTW, he says that there will be 3 expansions planned for 2014.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by thefiremind » 24 Jun 2013, 19:23
Yes, Snapcaster Mage is a very good sign of what we'll be able to do, but I'm also interested in Temporal Mastery: could it mean that we'll have control over the card frame again?
EDIT: Now that I think about it, Commandeer is cool as well: unless they built a function that binds the new target choice with taking control of the spell, we should be able to code Deflection and similar effects the same way!
EDIT: Now that I think about it, Commandeer is cool as well: unless they built a function that binds the new target choice with taking control of the spell, we should be able to code Deflection and similar effects the same way!
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by RiiakShiNal » 24 Jun 2013, 21:12
I'm also interested in Cryptic Command, does this mean we will be able to have 4 choices for multiple choice questions (I hope so, otherwise this card will be a pain to play for the player)? Will we be able to select multiple options from the selection (probably not, but we can hope)?
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by East Bay » 25 Jun 2013, 03:23
WTF Force of Will!!! but only one is pointless
Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by sumomole » 25 Jun 2013, 05:31
Uh, you have said what I wanted.
Jund Charm has in the main deck, AI of D14 should be much higher than D13, maybe in the next year Cryptic Command can also in the main deck, by that time Planeswalker is not impossible.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by NEMESiS » 25 Jun 2013, 22:42
Not sure where to post this (we need a DotP14 sub forum) but I am seeing comments of players drawing the exact same cards from sealed even after deleting all the game data and reisntalling. it even happens across platforms if they share the same name.... So what you draw is indeed tied to your username so we may not be able to create our own sealed pools...
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by RiiakShiNal » 25 Jun 2013, 23:25
Hard to say, but this could mean that the "random" draw is seeded by a hash of the username (not truly random). In which case it would make sense getting the same cards. Though if the pool changes then the draws should also change.NEMESiS wrote:Not sure where to post this (we need a DotP14 sub forum) but I am seeing comments of players drawing the exact same cards from sealed even after deleting all the game data and reisntalling. it even happens across platforms if they share the same name.... So what you draw is indeed tied to your username so we may not be able to create our own sealed pools...
Of course it could also be that the cards you get from the sealed pools are saved on a server somewhere the first time you get the cards and simply reloaded from there if the username is the same. In this case even if the pool changes you will be stuck with the same cards because the list is being retrieved from a server which doesn't know about the changed pool. If the pool changes before the first draw in sealed then it might cause problems if the player gets a card that the server doesn't know about (then again it might not depending on how the server handles the data). Though it could also lead to problems if cards in the changed pool become unavailable for whatever reason.
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Re: DotP 2014 Game footage (June 26th release)
by thefiremind » 27 Jun 2013, 00:27
I don't want to open another topic for "DotP 2014: first impressions", so I'll just use this one.
Here's what I noticed after some matches:
Here's what I noticed after some matches:
- The first opponent (Chandra, not counting tutorials of course) is tough! I had to use the ramp in order to win, which feels a bit like cheating. (Be aware that I didn't want to add unlockables to the decks because Chandra should be theoretically beatable without them.)
- The AI does things that it never made before: Chandra often kills her own Magma Phoenix when she wants to wipe the board from weenies.
- Exiled cards can be browsed! They are rendered near the graveyard, in shades of gray, with an "X" badge on them.
- We'll need to get used to confirm the choices when we browse libraries (and probably during other kinds of choices): while we just needed to click on the chosen cards before, now the game wants us to click on the "confirm" button. It's a good thing, no more misclicks.
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