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Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Thunderstruck » 29 Jan 2012, 21:41

Hi,

I´m new here and need some help: when playing against the computer the AI just won´t attack me with creatures. I have tested this in several matches and it is always the same, even if I have got no creatures to block.

What do I have to do to get the AI attacking me?

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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby jeffwadsworth » 29 Jan 2012, 22:44

Thunderstruck wrote:Hi,

I´m new here and need some help: when playing against the computer the AI just won´t attack me with creatures. I have tested this in several matches and it is always the same, even if I have got no creatures to block.

What do I have to do to get the AI attacking me?

Greetings from Germany!
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Thunderstruck » 30 Jan 2012, 10:52

The Problem occurs in version 0.8.2., I downloaded it yesterday. Isn´t this the newest version? :?

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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby jmartus » 30 Jan 2012, 14:47

try doing a sealed draft the computer seams to play better during those then a regular game.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Thunderstruck » 31 Jan 2012, 18:59

I tried it in a draft but it´s still the same: the AI just won´t attack me with creatures.

I even tried playing Mage (version 0.8.2.r2) on 3 different computers now (2x Windows7, 1x Windows XP) but the problem occurs independant from the operating system. Everything else seems to work.

Can anyone help me please?
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby BetaSteward » 01 Feb 2012, 13:40

Hi Thunderstruck,

Which AI are you playing against? Try against both MAD and Minimax and let me know if you get the same behavior.

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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Thunderstruck » 01 Feb 2012, 17:35

I am playing against both AI´s and both don´t attack.

But mostly I play against "Minimax" because when playing against "Mad" Mage crashes very often at the beginning of the game when I´m asked if I want to take a Mulligan. (I think it crashes when I have to choose the start player but it doesn´t crash when the start player is chosen automatically, but I´m not sure in that. I´ve not yet figured out why the start player sometimes is chosen automatically and sometimes is not).

Another strange thing I noticed is that the "Mad"-AI never seems to block my creatures("Miminax" does block).

Sorry for my bad english.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Sakkie » 01 Feb 2012, 18:32

I have exactly same problem as Thunderstruck. For some reason the AI won't attack. Minimax at least blocks my attacks but Mad doesn't do attack or block.

Any news on a solution to this?

Thanks

PS. I'm running MAGE using the "startClientWin7.bat" file and connecting to localhost. The "mage-client-0.8.2.exe" also doesn't seem to want to connect to localhost though.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby BetaSteward » 02 Feb 2012, 13:19

Don't worry too much, there is hope.

I am finishing up a new AI that uses the monte carlo algorithm and it definitely does attack and block. It should be ready in a few weeks when we release Dark Ascension.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby Thunderstruck » 03 Feb 2012, 08:31

@BetaSteward: Can you tell me why the starting player in a match agains the AI sometimes is chosen automatically and sometimes I have to choose a start player?

Mage crashes when I have to choose the start player... Is it possible that the starting player always is chosen automatically?
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby BetaSteward » 05 Feb 2012, 05:26

You get to choose the starting player based on whether you won the toss at the start of the game. If the AI wins the toss then the AI picks the starting player which will almost always be the AI. Look in the message logs on the right side of the game window and you can see who won the toss.

I'll look into why the game might crash when selecting the staring player. I haven't encountered this error yet. It might be due to having the client start the server which is a feature I rarely use in testing.

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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby jeffwadsworth » 20 Feb 2012, 19:20

Just posting something noticed when using Gideon Jura's first ability in 8.3. The AI will attack in that situation. Looking forward to that new Monte Carlo AI.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby jeffwadsworth » 16 Mar 2012, 22:24

Just wanted to say thanks for fixing the AI combat. I realize it checks state only, but hey, better than nothing.
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby nantuko84 » 19 Mar 2012, 13:57

if you mean recent changes in mad ai, then it's just the beginning of the changes that are supposed to replace current implementation of combad in mad ai

I will apply new changes at the end of this week
Mage\MagicWars blog: http://mwars.blogspot.com/
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Re: Need Help: AI won´t attack

Postby BlackLotus82 » 11 May 2012, 19:35

I downloaded the latest version hoping the problem the OP highlited was resolved, but in single-player AI still won't attack, neither if it has many eligible attackers and I have no defenders on the table...
MAGE would be great if this problem was resolved, any guess? :-)
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