Updates on the way.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Bog Wraith » 02 Apr 2015, 11:01
Needless to say, when I read this, I was more than a tad excited. Top it off with seeing Necropotence, my favorite MTG card of all time, available in game and you made my day sir! 
I know that this is at a very early stage & that there are a ton of hurdles to clear, but it is none the less great news.
I am in no way a programmer or have any knowledge of same, but if there is a way that I could help, like relieving you of some redundant tasks that you might instruct me on how to do that would free you up to use the time you have to work on this project for other things, please let me know. I'm pretty sure that others here will also volunteer their time when they see this thread.
I wish you the best of luck with this project. It is something I have dreamt about ever since Mok, ( the original programmer who opened up and developed what is now ManaLink) began his project and asked me and few others, some who are members here at CCGHQ, to compose what was to become his Alpha testing team.
No matter what becomes of this, I thank you for giving of your time & skills in modernizing & improving one of the best & most popular MTG games ever made!
I know that this is at a very early stage & that there are a ton of hurdles to clear, but it is none the less great news.
I am in no way a programmer or have any knowledge of same, but if there is a way that I could help, like relieving you of some redundant tasks that you might instruct me on how to do that would free you up to use the time you have to work on this project for other things, please let me know. I'm pretty sure that others here will also volunteer their time when they see this thread.
I wish you the best of luck with this project. It is something I have dreamt about ever since Mok, ( the original programmer who opened up and developed what is now ManaLink) began his project and asked me and few others, some who are members here at CCGHQ, to compose what was to become his Alpha testing team.
No matter what becomes of this, I thank you for giving of your time & skills in modernizing & improving one of the best & most popular MTG games ever made!
'Twas in the bogs of Cannelbrae
My mate did meet an early grave
'Twas nothing left for us to save
In the peat-filled bogs of Cannelbrae.
My mate did meet an early grave
'Twas nothing left for us to save
In the peat-filled bogs of Cannelbrae.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by gmzombie » 02 Apr 2015, 14:47
holy shit! this is by far the best news of the day or week possibly!! i almost spit my drink out on my monitor. this is great news
can I maze of ith your snowstorm?
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Aswan jaguar » 02 Apr 2015, 15:10
They must have been omitted probably by Mok maybe he couldn't make them work so in most versions the videos don't exist.Korath wrote:Wizard animations. I might be working with the wrong version of Shandalar.exe, but I can't find the actual animation files in any install that I have handy. Can someone please identify them?
The videos can be found on MTG 2010 iso.
EDIT:the videos are in Statwin folder.
If you can see it in an external video then we are in the same page.I don't know if it was/is broken in game as never played it so much and most certainly never finished it.Korath wrote:There's a MTGEND.avi in my shandalar directory that I assume is supposed to be played at victory; it wasn't. I don't remember ever seeing it, though, so maybe it's always been broken.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by gmzombie » 02 Apr 2015, 15:38
I have the original discs I can pull the files off of. Give me a few mins and I'll find em
EDIT: i haven't found any AVI files besides the tutorial files. and ive looked at all 3 discs. i think the game used the statwin for shandalar and did animations through there. im going to investigate a bit on that
EDIT: i haven't found any AVI files besides the tutorial files. and ive looked at all 3 discs. i think the game used the statwin for shandalar and did animations through there. im going to investigate a bit on that
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can I maze of ith your snowstorm?
http://home.comcast.net/~gmzombie/index.html old stuff in here. don't use this stuff right now till I get time to get back into it and readjust.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by gmzombie » 02 Apr 2015, 16:23
it does call deckbuilder.dll but i dont know if you ever looked in a disassembled version but it is calling different areas in the dll. there is original code for the deck builder because if you notice it dosent show sets and shows up to 3 decks for the big grey buttons but everything else is there. i believe moks latest update to deckbuilder.dll is still in the source files now.The deckbuilder is badly out-of-date. I'm not sure why offhand; at a glance, it looks like it calls deckdll.dll like it should.
can I maze of ith your snowstorm?
http://home.comcast.net/~gmzombie/index.html old stuff in here. don't use this stuff right now till I get time to get back into it and readjust.
http://home.comcast.net/~gmzombie/index.html old stuff in here. don't use this stuff right now till I get time to get back into it and readjust.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Bog Wraith » 02 Apr 2015, 18:43
Here is a link to the "MTGEND.avi" file. I converted it to MP4 because it would not play on either my Mac or Windows machines as both the audio & video did not work at the same time. These are very old files using codecs that aren't used anymore.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aiib9 ... ND.mp4.zip
This is the video that plays when a player has defeated Arzakon in the last duel. Incidentally, you don't have to beat him to get this animation playing as the number of years that Arzakon is banished from Shandalar is calculated by the amount of lives that you have reduced him from his starting value. Obviously, the more lives you take from him, the more years he is banished.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/aiib9 ... ND.mp4.zip
This is the video that plays when a player has defeated Arzakon in the last duel. Incidentally, you don't have to beat him to get this animation playing as the number of years that Arzakon is banished from Shandalar is calculated by the amount of lives that you have reduced him from his starting value. Obviously, the more lives you take from him, the more years he is banished.
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'Twas nothing left for us to save
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'Twas nothing left for us to save
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Huggybaby » 02 Apr 2015, 19:10
MTGEnd.avi plays properly on my machine using VLC Media Player. I don't think it works with Windows Media Player due to lack of support for the old Indeo CODEC.
Cross-platform: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
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FILE_NAME MTGend.avi
FILE_NAME_WITH_PATH \Desktop\MTGend.avi
FILE_SIZE 6,450,010
CONT_AUDIO_STREAM_COUNT 1
CONT_BASETYPE AVI(.AVI)
CONT_BYTES_MISSING 0
CONT_INTERLEAVE_ALIGN
CONT_INTERLEAVE_PRELOAD
CONT_INTERLEAVE_TIME
CONT_SUBTYPE AVI v1.0,
CONT_TOTAL_BITRATE 0
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_AVI1
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_AVI2
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_CVD1
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_CVD2
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_DVD1
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_DVD2
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_SVCD1
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_SVCD2
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_VCD1
VIDEO_ASPECT_CONVERT_VCD2
VIDEO_ASPECT_SOURCE_MATCH
VIDEO_ASPECT_TYPE_NTSC
VIDEO_ASPECT_TYPE_PAL
VIDEO_BITRATE 2420
VIDEO_CODEC_NAME Indeo 4.x
VIDEO_CODEC_STATUS Codec(s) are NOT Installed
VIDEO_CODEC_TYPE IV41
VIDEO_DAR 1.694
VIDEO_DURATION 0:18.533
VIDEO_FIELDS_PER_SEC
VIDEO_FRAME_COUNT 278
VIDEO_FRAMES_PER_SEC 15.000
VIDEO_H264
VIDEO_MPEG2
VIDEO_MPEG2_3X2
VIDEO_MPEG2_BFF
VIDEO_MPEG2_I_L
VIDEO_MPEG2_PPF
VIDEO_MPEG2_PROG
VIDEO_MPEG2_TFF
VIDEO_MPEG4
VIDEO_MPEG4_BVOP
VIDEO_MPEG4_GMC
VIDEO_MPEG4_NVOP
VIDEO_MPEG4_QPEL
VIDEO_PAR 1.000
VIDEO_PICS_PER_SEC 15.000
VIDEO_QF 0.824
VIDEO_SAR 1.694
VIDEO_SIZE_X 576
VIDEO_SIZE_Y 340
AUDIO_BITRATE 353
AUDIO_BITRATE_TYPE
AUDIO_CHANNEL_COUNT 2
AUDIO_CODEC PCM Audio
AUDIO_CODEC_STATUS No Codec Required
AUDIO_MPEG_STREAM_ID
AUDIO_MPEG_SUBSTREAM_ID
AUDIO_SAMPLE_RATE 22050
Cross-platform: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Bog Wraith » 02 Apr 2015, 20:19
I have the VLC Player as well Huggy, but I did not realize that it was a Windows app as well as I have only ever seen & used it on the Mac platform. Yes you are right, it does work on VLC as I tried it and wanted to use it to convert the video for my Windows challenged friends. 
You're also correct in that the files didn't work using the native Windows Media Player either.
I ended up using a nifty app I've been using for many years called Handbrake to convert the file using a universal codec that would play on most device platforms. There is a Mac, Windows & Linux version of this outstanding app.
Thanks for the heads up about the VLC player running on Windows.
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Edit
I forgot to mention that Handbrake is a free piece of software. Here is the link to the site for the 3 different supported platforms that it runs on.
https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
You're also correct in that the files didn't work using the native Windows Media Player either.
I ended up using a nifty app I've been using for many years called Handbrake to convert the file using a universal codec that would play on most device platforms. There is a Mac, Windows & Linux version of this outstanding app.
Thanks for the heads up about the VLC player running on Windows.
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Edit
I forgot to mention that Handbrake is a free piece of software. Here is the link to the site for the 3 different supported platforms that it runs on.
https://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
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'Twas nothing left for us to save
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My mate did meet an early grave
'Twas nothing left for us to save
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Korath » 02 Apr 2015, 22:37
The sound problem was just me being a dolt; I hadn't had any of the shandalar-specific wavs in the sounds directory, just the locmus files that get distributed with manalink. Putting them in also fixed the corrupted splash screens for the castles, for reasons unknown.
I probably am going to put something together with the duel in shandalar.exe before I start forwarding it to magic.exe (which is what runs Manalink, over in the other forum) after all. I can tackle low-hanging fruit in 5- and 10-minute bursts in between other stuff; interfacing between the two programs, on the other hand, is going to take concerted effort and larger chunks of time.
That mtgend.avi file should play just before wingame.wav and wingame.pic. It goes through statwin.dll and magvid.dll, not direct through Windows like the coin-flip animations. Nothing else calls play_video() in statwin.dll directly from shandalar.exe; I'm not sure yet whether the wizard animations are played through statwin.dll indirectly (going through statwin.dll's status_show()), through magvid.dll directly, or something else. I don't have any avi files in my statwin dir, so the whole subsystem might be failing because of that and taking mtgend.avi with it; but if that's not it, I can move it over to the play-through-Windows function like the coin flips if I need be.
While looking into that, I stumbled onto what I'm almost certain is the data controlling which free spells the AI gets in dungeons, the final battle, when you're trying to take back a fallen city, etc. If anyone has concrete suggestions as to what to replace those with - either already existing in Shandalar, in the list above, or other simple cards - please speak up.
[edit - rm four multicolored cards that snuck in]
I probably am going to put something together with the duel in shandalar.exe before I start forwarding it to magic.exe (which is what runs Manalink, over in the other forum) after all. I can tackle low-hanging fruit in 5- and 10-minute bursts in between other stuff; interfacing between the two programs, on the other hand, is going to take concerted effort and larger chunks of time.
- The lowest of the low-hanging fruit. They're awfully boring, but at least fully working. | Open
That mtgend.avi file should play just before wingame.wav and wingame.pic. It goes through statwin.dll and magvid.dll, not direct through Windows like the coin-flip animations. Nothing else calls play_video() in statwin.dll directly from shandalar.exe; I'm not sure yet whether the wizard animations are played through statwin.dll indirectly (going through statwin.dll's status_show()), through magvid.dll directly, or something else. I don't have any avi files in my statwin dir, so the whole subsystem might be failing because of that and taking mtgend.avi with it; but if that's not it, I can move it over to the play-through-Windows function like the coin flips if I need be.
While looking into that, I stumbled onto what I'm almost certain is the data controlling which free spells the AI gets in dungeons, the final battle, when you're trying to take back a fallen city, etc. If anyone has concrete suggestions as to what to replace those with - either already existing in Shandalar, in the list above, or other simple cards - please speak up.
[edit - rm four multicolored cards that snuck in]
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Bog Wraith » 03 Apr 2015, 00:13
Right back at you, old friend!Huggybaby wrote:NP Bogs, good to see you!
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'Twas nothing left for us to save
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'Twas nothing left for us to save
In the peat-filled bogs of Cannelbrae.
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Re: Updates on the way.
by Huggybaby » 03 Apr 2015, 01:06
Here's my StatWin folder from a Shandalar2012 install:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ojz6mk2vg2jb13h
Therein is included all sorts of .avi goodness, and if it's missing anything I'd be surprised, as Hip was very thorough.
Directory listing:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ojz6mk2vg2jb13h
Therein is included all sorts of .avi goodness, and if it's missing anything I'd be surprised, as Hip was very thorough.
Directory listing:
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12skulls.bmp
1skulls.bmp
2skulls.bmp
3skulls.bmp
4skulls.bmp
5skulls.bmp
8skulls.bmp
B-Mana.bmp
B_Amg.avi
B_Djn.avi
B_Fwz.avi
B_Kht.avi
B_Lrd.avi
B_Mwz.avi
B_Wg.avi
Blak-Hit.avi
Blk-Mask.bmp
Blk-Sprt.bmp
Blu-Mask.bmp
Blu-Sprt.bmp
Blue-Hit.avi
Bubbles.avi
Dg_Bru.avi
Dg_Gwr.avi
Dg_Rgb.avi
Dg_Uwb.avi
Dg_Wug.avi
Fire.avi
G-Mana.bmp
G_Amg.avi
G_Amgx.avi
G_Amgz.avi
G_Djn.avi
G_Djnx.avi
G_Djnz.avi
G_Fwz.avi
G_Kht.avi
G_Khtx.avi
G_Khtz.avi
G_Lrd.avi
G_Lrdx.avi
G_Lrdz.avi
G_Mwz.avi
G_Wrm.avi
Grn-Hit.avi
Grn-Mask.bmp
Grn-Sprt.bmp
M_Ape.avi
M_Cen.avi
M_Cen2.avi
M_Fng.avi
M_Fwz.avi
M_Kht.avi
M_Lrd.avi
M_Trl.avi
M_Tsk.avi
M_Wg.avi
Mana.bmp
Monster.avi
R-Mana.bmp
R_Amg.avi
R_Djn.avi
R_Fwz.avi
R_Lrd.avi
R_Mwz.avi
R_Trl.avi
R_Wrm.avi
Red-Hit.avi
Red-Mask.bmp
Red-Sprt.bmp
Room-Blk.bmp
Room-Blu.bmp
Room-Grn.bmp
Room-Mon.bmp
Room-Red.bmp
Room-Wht.bmp
S-Bkwizr.bmp
S-Bkwizy.bmp
S-Buwizr.bmp
S-Buwizy.bmp
S-Gwizr.bmp
S-Gwizy.bmp
S-Rwizr.bmp
S-Rwizy.bmp
S-Wwizr.bmp
S-Wwizy.bmp
Smoke.avi
U-Mana.bmp
U_Amg.avi
U_Djn.avi
U_Fwz.avi
U_Lrd.avi
U_Mwz.avi
U_Sft.avi
U_Wrm.avi
Vine.avi
W-Mana.bmp
W_Amg.avi
W_Fwz.avi
W_Kht.avi
W_Lrd.avi
W_Mwz.avi
W_Wg.avi
Water.avi
Whit-Hit.avi
Wht-Mask.bmp
Wht-Sprt.bmp
Wizbg.bmp
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Re: Updates on the way.
by gmzombie » 03 Apr 2015, 03:06
wow that is more than the original discs...for what its worth i unzipped all the cabs and couldnt find anyone of those..i wonder if imissed something..i mean my discs are copys after all.
can I maze of ith your snowstorm?
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