Collectible Card Game Headquarters

Hi,
I'm trying to replay Shandalar as it was years ago and I find all the new cards unnecesary. I know I have to disable sets in ini file, but I don't know what sets were in original Shandalar release, and in subsequent update.

Should I enable everything from Promo to Fifth Edition? Or just the core sets?

I think what you want to leave in is everything up to Ice Age but without Fallen Empires.

leszczu wrote:Hi,
I'm trying to replay Shandalar as it was years ago and I find all the new cards unnecesary. I know I have to disable sets in ini file, but I don't know what sets were in original Shandalar release, and in subsequent update.

Why don't you use Shandalar as it was originally then? like it is in 2010 iso installation? :
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=2349

Aswan jaguar wrote:Why don't you use Shandalar as it was originally then? like it is in 2010 iso installation? :
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=2349

I had some problems running this version under Win 7. Anyway, I used the neweset Shandalar and enabled only 5th Ed. deck. As far as I remember, all cards are OK.

lujo wrote:I think what you want to leave in is everything up to Ice Age but without Fallen Empires.

Other way around. The original Shandalar (with expansions) had cards up to and including Fallen Empire, but no Ice Age, or anything after. I may be wrong, but I believe that without the expansions, only Unlimited (or possibly Revised) cards were included.

However, Shandalar did not include all cards from those sets*. Notably, it did not have any gold cards.
*the cards were implemented, but not turned on. With very minor modification, the cards could be accessed in the deckbuilder.

All of Fourth Edition; most of Unlimited, Arabian Nights, Antiquities, and The Dark; bits and pieces of Legends; a handful (6?) of cards that only existed as promos at the time like Arena and Giant Badger; and the twelve Astral cards. (Speaking of which, Aswan Jaguar seems to get highlit now, ooh ah, but the other eleven still don't.) It didn't include anything from Fallen Empires.

The list, including tokens | Open

Swamp
Island
Forest
Mountain
Plains
Badlands
Bayou
Plateau
Savannah
Scrubland
Taiga
Tropical Island
Tundra
Underground Sea
Volcanic Island
Mesa Pegasus
Benalish Hero
Savannah Lions
Northern Paladin
Serra Angel
Veteran Bodyguard
Samite Healer
Pearled Unicorn
Wall of Swords
White Knight
Atog
Orcish Artillery
Dwarven Weaponsmith
Hill Giant
Earth Elemental
Dragon Whelp
Fire Elemental
Goblin Balloon Brigade
Mons's Goblin Raiders
Goblin King
Granite Gargoyle
Gray Ogre
Hurloon Minotaur
Keldon Warlord
Kird Ape
Roc of Kher Ridges
Rock Hydra
Sedge Troll
Shivan Dragon
Stone Giant
Uthden Troll
Wall of Fire
Wall of Stone
Ironclaw Orcs
Rukh Egg
Merfolk of the Pearl Trident
Lord of Atlantis
Air Elemental
Sea Serpent
Clone
Wall of Air
Wall of Water
Island Fish Jasconius
Mahamoti Djinn
Phantasmal Forces
Phantom Monster
Pirate Ship
Prodigal Sorcerer
Water Elemental
Zephyr Falcon
Giant Tortoise
Guardian Beast
Vesuvan Doppelganger
Shanodin Dryads
Wall of Wood
Grizzly Bears
Fungusaur
War Mammoth
Giant Spider
Craw Wurm
Elvish Archers
Force of Nature
Ironroot Treefolk
Llanowar Elves
Scryb Sprites
Timber Wolves
Wall of Brambles
Verduran Enchantress
Durkwood Boars
Drudge Skeletons
Scathe Zombies
Zombie Master
Erg Raiders
Carrion Ants
Bog Wraith
Frozen Shade
Nightmare
Royal Assassin
Sorceress Queen
Wall of Bone
Will-o'-the-Wisp
Hypnotic Specter
Vampire Bats
Bad Moon
Cursed Land
Evil Presence
Unholy Strength
Weakness
Warp Artifact
Unstable Mutation
Phantasmal Terrain
Copy Artifact
Flight
Psychic Venom
Creature Bond
Animate Artifact
Feedback
Lifetap
Wild Growth
Regeneration
Web
Wanderlust
Instill Energy
Lifeforce
Aspect of Wolf
Living Artifact
Earthbind
Burrowing
Firebreathing
Manabarbs
Orcish Oriflamme
Mana Flare
Holy Armor
Castle
Holy Strength
Black Ward
Green Ward
Blue Ward
Red Ward
White Ward
Artifact Ward
Karma
Farmstead
Circle of Protection: White
Circle of Protection: Black
Circle of Protection: Blue
Circle of Protection: Red
Circle of Protection: Green
Crusade
Blaze of Glory
Blessing
Conversion
Spirit Link
Divine Transformation
Wrath of God
Armageddon
Resurrection
Raise Dead
Drain Life
Reconstruction
Braingeyser
Disintegrate
Stone Rain
Earthquake
Fireball
Flashfires
Shatterstorm
Desert Twister
Hurricane
Tranquility
Stream of Life
Ice Storm
Regrowth
Tsunami
Basalt Monolith
Conservator
Gauntlet of Might
Iron Star
Ivory Cup
Crystal Rod
Ankh of Mishra
Armageddon Clock
Dingus Egg
Ebony Horse
Jade Monolith
Jandor's Saddlebags
Jayemdae Tome
Mana Vault
Meekstone
Onulet
Rocket Launcher
Rod of Ruin
Sol Ring
Soul Net
Throne of Bone
Wooden Sphere
Winter Orb
Flying Carpet
Helm of Chatzuk
Howling Mine
Mightstone
Sunglasses of Urza
Brass Man
Dancing Scimitar
Dragon Engine
Clockwork Beast
Living Wall
Obsianus Golem
Ornithopter
Disenchant
Guardian Angel
Death Ward
Righteousness
Swords to Plowshares
Healing Salve
Alabaster Potion
Psionic Blast
Hurkyl's Recall
Jump
Unsummon
Ancestral Recall
Mana Short
Howl from Beyond
Terror
Shatter
Tunnel
Lightning Bolt
Inferno
Berserk
Giant Growth
Simulacrum
Purelace
Raging River
Blue Elemental Blast
Counterspell
Spell Blast
Deathlace
Sacrifice
Dark Ritual
Chaoslace
Red Elemental Blast
Lifelace
Thoughtlace
Mox Emerald
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Mox Ruby
Mox Sapphire
Black Lotus
Aladdin's Ring
Celestial Prism
Copper Tablet
Disrupting Scepter
Icy Manipulator
Consecrate Land
Lance
Reverse Damage
Jandor's Ring
Jeweled Bird
Jade Statue
Ring of Ma'ruf
Erhnam Djinn
City of Brass
Desert
Army of Allah
Jihad
King Suleiman
Moorish Cavalry
Piety
Pyramids
Repentant Blacksmith
War Elephant
Dandan
Fishliver Oil
Flying Men
Merchant Ship
Serendib Djinn
Serendib Efreet
El-Hajjaj
Hasran Ogress
Junun Efreet
Juzam Djinn
Khabal Ghoul
Stone-Throwing Devils
Ali Baba
Ali from Cairo
Bird Maiden
Mijae Djinn
Ghazban Ogre
Sandstorm
Sandals of Abdallah
Plague Rats
Cuombajj Witches
Black Knight
Camel
Juggernaut
Nafs Asp
Wyluli Wolf
Hurr Jackal
Invisibility
Fear
Dwarven Demolition Team
Dwarven Warriors
Birds of Paradise
Giant Badger
Nettling Imp
Sengir Vampire
Lord of the Pit
Nether Shadow
Nevinyrral's Disk
Paralyze
Animate Dead
Demonic Tutor
Mind Twist
Diamond Valley
Island of Wak-Wak
Pestilence
The Hive
Forcefield
Power Leak
Drain Power
Twiddle
Two-Headed Giant of Foriys
Stasis
Scavenging Ghoul
Sinkhole
Magnetic Mountain
Power Surge
Smoke
Wheel of Fortune
Channel
Fastbond
Ley Druid
Lure
Thicket Basilisk
Cockatrice
Wall of Ice
Magical Hack
Sleight of Mind
Black Vise
Ivory Tower
The Rack
Contract from Below
Timetwister
Aladdin's Lamp
Millstone
Bazaar of Baghdad
Library of Alexandria
Sindbad
Singing Tree
Goblin Artisans
Mishra's Factory
Mishra's Workshop
Strip Mine
Urza's Mine
Urza's Power Plant
Urza's Tower
Argivian Archaeologist
Argivian Blacksmith
Circle of Protection: Artifacts
Damping Field
Martyrs of Korlis
Reverse Polarity
Drafna's Restoration
Energy Flux
Sage of Lat-Nam
Transmute Artifact
Artifact Possession
Gate to Phyrexia
Haunting Wind
Phyrexian Gremlins
Priest of Yawgmoth
Xenic Poltergeist
Yawgmoth Demon
Artifact Blast
Detonate
Orcish Mechanics
Argothian Pixies
Argothian Treefolk
Citanul Druid
Crumble
Gaea's Avenger
Powerleech
Amulet of Kroog
Ashnod's Altar
Ashnod's Battle Gear
Ashnod's Transmogrant
Battering Ram
Candelabra of Tawnos
Clay Statue
Clockwork Avian
Colossus of Sardia
Coral Helm
Cursed Rack
Feldon's Cane
Grapeshot Catapult
Jalum Tome
Mishra's War Machine
Obelisk of Undoing
Primal Clay
Rakalite
Staff of Zegon
Su-Chi
Tablet of Epityr
Tawnos's Coffin
Tawnos's Weaponry
Triskelion
Urza's Avenger
Urza's Chalice
Urza's Miter
Wall of Spears
Weakstone
Yotian Soldier
Time Walk
Time Vault
Balance
Cyclopean Tomb
Eye for an Eye
Island Sanctuary
Personal Incarnation
Control Magic
Steal Artifact
Siren's Call
Volcanic Eruption
Darkpact
Demonic Hordes
Demonic Attorney
Fork
Gaea's Liege
Kudzu
Living Lands
Kormus Bell
Natural Selection
Bottle of Suleiman
Glasses of Urza
Library of Leng
Lich
Elephant Graveyard
Old Man of the Sea
Oubliette
Desert Nomads
Ydwen Efreet
Cyclone
Drop of Honey
Ifh-Biff Efreet
Abu Ja'far
Aladdin
Animate Wall
Call from the Grave
Prismatic Dragon
Rainbow Knights
Pandora's Box
Whimsy
Faerie Dragon
Goblin Polka Band
Power Struggle
Aswan Jaguar
Orcish Catapult
Gem Bazaar
Necropolis of Azar
Arena
Mana Crypt
Nalathni Dragon
Sewers of Estark
Windseeker Centaur
Bog Imp
Carnivorous Plant
Diabolic Machine
Ghost Ship
Giant Strength
Immolation
Killer Bees
Land Leeches
Lost Soul
Pikemen
Seeker
Segovian Leviathan
Sisters of the Flame
Tundra Wolves
Uncle Istvan
Sunken City
Blue Mana Battery
White Mana Battery
Black Mana Battery
Red Mana Battery
Green Mana Battery
Apprentice Wizard
Abomination
Venom
Cyclopean Mummy
Cosmic Horror
Angry Mob
Blood Lust
Fortified Area
Amrou Kithkin
Elven Riders
Visions
Ball Lightning
Psionic Entity
Morale
Cave People
Blight
The Brute
Eternal Warrior
Pradesh Gypsies
Ashes to Ashes
Fissure
Winds of Change
Word of Binding
Fellwar Stone
Mana Clash
Marsh Viper
Mind Bomb
Time Elemental
Untamed Wilds
Backfire
Elder Land Wurm
Erosion
Flood
Gaseous Form
Goblin Rock Sled
Greed
Kismet
Leviathan
Murk Dwellers
Osai Vultures
Pyrotechnics
Relic Bind
Whirling Dervish
Winter Blast
Brothers of Fire
Energy Tap
Marsh Gas
Radjan Spirit
Spirit Shackle
Pit Scorpion
Brainwash
Crimson Manticore
Sylvan Library
Land Tax
Rag Man
Rebirth
Tempest Efreet
Shapeshifter
Fog
Deathgrip
Tawnos's Wand
Wall of Dust
Bronze Tablet
Tetravus
Titania's Song
Power Sink
Gloom
Oasis
Crimson Kobolds
Crookshank Kobolds
Kobolds of Kher Keep
Mountain Yeti
Raging Bull
Wall of Earth
Wall of Heat
Goblin Hero
Azure Drake
Devouring Deep
Barbary Apes
Cat Warriors
Hornet Cobra
Moss Monster
Headless Horseman
Keepers of the Faith
Righteous Avengers
Thunder Spirit
Wall of Light
Knights of Thorn
Squire
Acid Rain
Darkness
Holy Day
Infernal Medusa
Lifeblood
Walking Dead
Boomerang
Cleanse
D'Avenant Archer
Divine Offering
Exorcist
Fallen Angel
Fountain of Youth
Ghosts of the Damned
Goblin Digging Team
Great Defender
Hell Swarm
Inquisition
Jovial Evil
Merfolk Assassin
People of the Woods
Relic Barrier
Remove Soul
Riptide
Scavenger Folk
Shield Wall
Spinal Villain
Storm Seeker
Drowned
Typhoon
Wall of Opposition
Water Wurm
Alchor's Tomb
Angelic Voices
Banshee
Beasts of Bogardan
Bog Rats
Bone Flute
Elves of Deep Shadow
Emerald Dragonfly
Eternal Flame
Fire Drake
Giant Turtle
Greater Realm of Preservation
Hidden Path
Holy Light
Ivory Guardians
Kobold Drill Sergeant
Kobold Overlord
Kobold Taskmaster
Life Chisel
Miracle Worker
Mold Demon
Pixie Queen
Reset
Savaen Elves
Serpent Generator
Spiritual Sanctuary
Syphon Soul
Wall of Tombstones
War Barge
Witch Hunter
Akron Legionnaire
Amnesia
Barl's Cage
Blood Moon
Book of Rass
Coal Golem
Elder Spawn
Fire Sprites
Force Spike
Goblins of the Flarg
Hyperion Blacksmith
Martyr's Cry
Moat
Rabid Wombat
Tracker
Wall of Wonder
Wormwood Treefolk
Assembly-Worker
Wasp
Djinn
Spawn of Azar
Tetravite
Rukh
Poison Snake

The only cards I've found that were implemented but "not turned on", as you say, are Chaos Orb, City in a Bottle, Cocoon, Golgothian Sylex, Metamorphosis, Power Artifact, Transmutation, and Wood Elemental, all of which are broken to varying extent. There's more cards, including plenty of gold ones, that had entries defined in cards1.dat, but that doesn't contain much more than card text, frame, power, toughness, and mana cost - only enough to display the card on the screen. That's not "implemented" by any reasonable measure.

Nothing I've done should make the game any more likely to run under Windows 7. It may just be a matter of me working from a different starting point. The shandalar.exe I distribute is (barely) modified from a "Microprose MTG Mok's Manalink 2.0 Version.rar" that had been on my hard drive for upwards of five years; I don't remember an exact link to where I got it.

Maybe it doesn't work because the Microprose Magic the Gathering 2010 Custom Installer ISO installs the game in C/program files (if you doesn't choose otherwise-if I remember correctly you can choose path)which causes problems in newer windows OS with administrator problems issues.

You're saying that Chaos Orb is implemented!? If this means what I think, how did they do it??
(And why would they implement Chaos Orb, but not Falling Star?
viewtopic.php?f=76&t=17003&p=176545&hilit=chaos+orb#p176545 )

It has a 1 in 3 chance to destroy each permanent. (Each effect card too; so it might leave your Grizzly Bears alone, but negate the +3/+3 bonus it has from the Giant Growth you cast earlier that turn. As I said, the disabled cards are pretty broken.)

IIRC, the Unlimited cards were added in Spells of the Ancients and Legends in Duels of the Planewalkers (except the ones that made it into the original release because they were reprinted in Fourth Edition, or course), so they'd have already known Falling Star wasn't workable even as an approximation.

Alternately, this might have been another Astral card. All I can tell from the function is its activation cost and effect, not e.g. its color or card type or casting cost. Activation cost matches Chaos Orb's , and the effect's pretty reminiscent of it, including always destroying the card itself at the end rather than e.g. sacrificing it as a cost.

dingbat1 wrote:

lujo wrote:I think what you want to leave in is everything up to Ice Age but without Fallen Empires.

Other way around.

? It included cards from everything up to Ice Age, excluding Ice Age, and no Fallen Empires and Homelands (well, I forgot Homelands actually came before Ice Age, sorry) cards on purpose. Plus astral cards, I suppose.

It didn't include all the cards from those sets, but the question was "what card sets" and I thought it meant "were featured". And I also thought he meant in og Shandalar with expansions

So I suppose a more correct answer would be "sets up to The Dark + 4th + Astral cards + possibly a promo like that red banding dragon".