Bug reports

[Aswan jaguar]

Sponeta wrote:
The special ability of Sosuke, Son of Seshiro is retriggered after every combat for cards that were already destroyed, and it keeps retriggering even if Sosuke leaves play. In addition to that, if the destroyed card is reanimated, it will be destroyed again after the next combat.

I reported about this,too and I want to add I have seen this happening with at least another creature with the same ability.

Sponeta wrote:
Pariah doesn't do anything. Additionally, the AI once cast it on one of my creatures, which makes no sense.

Why doesn't it make any sense?AI doesn't get damage and there is another way to get rid of an opponent creature.

[sponeta]

Sponeta wrote:
Pariah doesn't do anything. Additionally, the AI once cast it on one of my creatures, which makes no sense.

Why doesn't it make any sense?AI doesn't get damage and there is another way to get rid of an opponent creature.

If it's on a creature that I control, shouldn't it prevent damage to me instead of the opponent?

Anyway, regardless of how it's supposed to work, it doesn't prevent any damage to any player, regardless of whose creature it's cast on. I've tried all combinations.

[melvin]

Sponeta wrote:
The special ability of Sosuke, Son of Seshiro is retriggered after every combat for cards that were already destroyed, and it keeps retriggering even if Sosuke leaves play. In addition to that, if the destroyed card is reanimated, it will be destroyed again after the next combat.

I reported about this,too and I want to add I have seen this happening with at least another creature with the same ability.

Thanks for all the reports about this. Problem was that the trigger was added to a permanent that is no longer on the battlefield, hence the repeated triggering. Fixed for next release by checking that a permanent before associating a trigger with it.

[melvin]

Casting Entreat the Angels using Miracle does not produce any tokens.

I can't reproduce this, but there was a major bug with the Miracle trigger before 1.40. What version is this from?

Casting Force of Will and choosing to discard a card does not actually discard the chosen card, it remains in the player's hand.

Fixed in 1.40

Casting Victim of Night on Wilt-Leaf Liege had no effect. The log said "Wilt-Leaf Liege is destroyed" but it wasn't put into the graveyard. The computer didn't have anything that could have prevented the destruction and there were no instants in the computer's graveyard afterwards, and nothing else in the log. I haven't tested if this happens also with other spells that destroy a target creature.

Wilt-Leaf Liege's last ability was wrong coded as whenever it is put into graveyard, put it on the battlefield. Fixed in 1.41.

AI cast Mind Rot. I chose Obstinate Baloth as one of the cards to discard, but it was put into the graveyard instead of the battlefield.

Same as Wilt-Leaf Liege's bug. Fixed in 1.41.

Bituminous Blast does not trigger Cascade.

Thanks for the report! Fixed for the next release (1.42).

Pariah doesn't do anything. Additionally, the AI once cast it on one of my creatures, which makes no sense.

Thanks for catching this, cards were unable to change the target of damage. Fixed for next release (1.42).

Captain of the Mists can only target creatures, even though its ability text says "you may tap or untap target permanent".

Arrgh, there is a bug in the groovy script. Fixed for next release (1.42).

When playing Borderland Ranger, the player doesn't get the "may" choice mentioned in the card's ability text.

Oops, left that out. Fixed for the next release (1.42).

The other bugs needs more investigation, will comment on them later.

[Huggybaby]

Impressive. So sponeta quickly earns the rank of Tester.

[hong yie]

i have a lightning greaves in play, then i have all of my lands tapped out to summon a creature. when all lands are tapped out & no creature able to attack, magarena skip to next player, good idea. Except, that i have a lightning greaves which will give my new summoned creature haste & enable it to attack.
is there somehow i can make this attack before magarena past my turn? thank's

[sponeta]

Impressive. So sponeta quickly earns the rank of Tester.

Well as long as there are no strings attached. I know I'm not exactly the most reliable of contributors when it comes to my schedules.

Casting Entreat the Angels using Miracle does not produce any tokens.

I can't reproduce this, but there was a major bug with the Miracle trigger before 1.40. What version is this from?

It was a while ago. I tested again (was extremely lucky to draw it early on) and the card works fine now. It's such a rare occurrence that I probably just hadn't drawn it since it was fixed.

AI cast Mind Rot. I chose Obstinate Baloth as one of the cards to discard, but it was put into the graveyard instead of the battlefield.

Same as Wilt-Leaf Liege's bug. Fixed in 1.41.

This one still happens in version 1.41. I just verified it. Opponent cast Mind Rot, I chose Obstinate Baloth first, Indrik Stomphowler second. Both were put into my graveyard. Also happens with Wilt-Leaf Liege.

By the way, would it be possible to allow temporarily playing with an illegal deck, just not save it? Maybe also skip gathering stats for that game? It would make it easier to double check bugs if I could just put together a deck with 10 lands and 10 Obstinate Baloths for myself, and 10 Mind Rots for the opponent.

[Huggybaby]

No strings attached.

[sponeta]

So this just happened: AI played Stolen Identity on its Sunspire Griffin, then ciphered on its Battering Krasis, a 2/1 creature that had two +1/+1 counters on it. On the next turn, Sunspire Griffin attacked and damaged me, and AI cast the ciphered Stolen Identity. The cloned Battering Krasis was 4/3 but didn't have any counters on it. Looks like cloning dropped the counters but kept the boosted power and toughness.

[melvin]

This one still happens in version 1.41. I just verified it. Opponent cast Mind Rot, I chose Obstinate Baloth first, Indrik Stomphowler second. Both were put into my graveyard. Also happens with Wilt-Leaf Liege.

Your right, my bad, I read too fast and thought this was the same issue as Wilt-Leaf Liege. Fixed for next release.

By the way, would it be possible to allow temporarily playing with an illegal deck, just not save it? Maybe also skip gathering stats for that game? It would make it easier to double check bugs if I could just put together a deck with 10 lands and 10 Obstinate Baloths for myself, and 10 Mind Rots for the opponent.

The game doesn't check for deck legality, so this is possible. Perhaps use a different name when testing? The stats are stored under the player's name.

[melvin]

So this just happened: AI played Stolen Identity on its Sunspire Griffin, then ciphered on its Battering Krasis, a 2/1 creature that had two +1/+1 counters on it. On the next turn, Sunspire Griffin attacked and damaged me, and AI cast the ciphered Stolen Identity. The cloned Battering Krasis was 4/3 but didn't have any counters on it. Looks like cloning dropped the counters but kept the boosted power and toughness.

I can't replicate this.

Did the AI clone the Sunspire Griffin with the intial Stolen Identity or the Battering Krasis? It looks like AI ciphered onto Sunspire Griffin and not Battering Krasis, as the trigger occurred when Sunspire Griffin damaged you. I also couldn't get the cloned Battering Krasis created by the copy of Stolen Identity from the trigger to be 4/3.

[sponeta]

By the way, would it be possible to allow temporarily playing with an illegal deck, just not save it? Maybe also skip gathering stats for that game? It would make it easier to double check bugs if I could just put together a deck with 10 lands and 10 Obstinate Baloths for myself, and 10 Mind Rots for the opponent.

The game doesn't check for deck legality, so this is possible. Perhaps use a different name when testing? The stats are stored under the player's name.

If I build an illegal deck, pressing the Close button in the deck editor gives an error message with only an "OK" button, and then returns to the deck editor. I can't get out of the deck editor to play a game.

And I only suggested the stat skipping because I thought you didn't want players to use illegal decks to mess up their stats. They're not a big thing for me. I usually play single random games, so I have only a few finished duels in my stats anyway.

So this just happened: AI played Stolen Identity on its Sunspire Griffin, then ciphered on its Battering Krasis, a 2/1 creature that had two +1/+1 counters on it. On the next turn, Sunspire Griffin attacked and damaged me, and AI cast the ciphered Stolen Identity. The cloned Battering Krasis was 4/3 but didn't have any counters on it. Looks like cloning dropped the counters but kept the boosted power and toughness.

I can't replicate this.

Did the AI clone the Sunspire Griffin with the intial Stolen Identity or the Battering Krasis? It looks like AI ciphered onto Sunspire Griffin and not Battering Krasis, as the trigger occurred when Sunspire Griffin damaged you. I also couldn't get the cloned Battering Krasis created by the copy of Stolen Identity from the trigger to be 4/3.

You're right I guess I got this totally confused.

I was playing a two-color random game, so it doesn't make sense that the AI would have white, green and blue. So the Sunspire Griffin must have been mine to begin with. The AI cloned it first, then ciphered onto the clone.

But when I tried now, I couldn't replicate the actual bug with the power and toughness either. I tried lots of different combinations but no bug. There must have been something else going on as well. It wasn't an instant buff either, because the cloned Battering Krasis remained 4/3 for the rest of the game.

By the way, I'm not familiar with the cipher mechanic. When I cast the encoded copy, shouldn't I get to encode that copy on a new creature?
- Cast Stolen Identity to copy a creature, encode Stolen Identity on a creature
- Encoded creature damages opponent
Now I get to cast a copy of Stolen Identity. It allows me to copy a creature again, but I don't get to encode again, even though the cipher keyword is a part of the copy too. Is this how cipher is supposed to work? It actually makes more sense this way, because if you got to cipher again, you'd double the amount of creatures each turn, instead of just adding one... that's scary strong.

[melvin]

If I build an illegal deck, pressing the Close button in the deck editor gives an error message with only an "OK" button, and then returns to the deck editor. I can't get out of the deck editor to play a game.

Oops, I didn't know about that. I'll check it out.

But when I tried now, I couldn't replicate the actual bug with the power and toughness either. I tried lots of different combinations but no bug. There must have been something else going on as well. It wasn't an instant buff either, because the cloned Battering Krasis remained 4/3 for the rest of the game.

Do take a screenshot when you see it again.

By the way, I'm not familiar with the cipher mechanic. When I cast the encoded copy, shouldn't I get to encode that copy on a new creature?

Nope, as you said, that would be too strong. The part about encoding is worded like this: "If this spell is represented by a card, you may exile this card encoded on a creature you control". Thus encoding doesn't occur for a copy of the spell.

[sponeta]

Rootborn Defenses did not make my creatures indestructible, even though I had a token to populate.

[sponeta]

I cast Clone to copy a token creature (Demon from Demonic Rising) controlled by the AI. Then I tried to populate it, but it wasn't targetable, so I guess the copy wasn't a token. Is this correct? Should "tokenness" be copied or not?