Bug reports

[melvin]

When Mournful Zombie activate his ability doesn't cause him to tap

Thanks for catching this, fixed in https://code.google.com/p/magarena/sour ... 96a503ea3a for next release.

[jerichopumpkin]

Sacrifice part of an ability cost is paid before mana. Let me be more clear:
I had in play a Manaweft Sliver, a Mnemonic Sliver and a bunch of other slivers.
I've chosen to sacrifice one of them to draw a card, but I was unable to pay with the one I intended to sacrifice, as it was removed from the battlefield as soon as I choose to use it's ability.

So the sequence is:
- I chose to play the ability
- the sliver is sacrificed
- I'm prompted to pay
- ability resolves
what I expected was:
- I chose to play the ability
- I'm prompted to pay
- the sliver is sacrificed
- ability resolves

Only excpetion should be self-tap cost, which should be the first cost to be paid in any case

[melvin]

Sacrifice part of an ability cost is paid before mana.

Good catch, this is intentional and was suppose to solve the issue where self tap cannot be paid due permanent already tapped to pay for mana. I wasn't sure that only self tap is affected by this, so I thought the more generic solution is to make payment for cost without choices (eg self tap) happen before costs with choices (mana cost).

Btw, self tap is not the only exception. Consider an ability that says "sacrifice this to produce mana", if both mana and sacrifice this are part of a cost, then you can't use the mana ability as that would prevent you from satisfying the sacrifice part of the cost.

As you've shown, my generalization is not correct either and fails in your situation.

[jerichopumpkin]

Btw, self tap is not the only exception. Consider an ability that says "sacrifice this to produce mana", if both mana and sacrifice this are part of a cost, then you can't use the mana ability as that would prevent you from satisfying the sacrifice part of the cost.

As you've shown, my generalization is not correct either and fails in your situation.

I'm not sure I understood the example. The scenario is a permanent with an ability like "{1}, sacrifice this: add any one mana", right?

For the human player that should not be a problem (or at least one hopes so), but I see what a problem it could be for the AI, as it can lead to an infinite loop...

[melvin]

Yup, that's the situation, and my concern is more for the AI.

Specifically consider a permanent with two abilities:
"Sacrifice this: produce one mana of any color"
"{1}, Sacrifice this: <some effect>"

The problem is when activating the second ability. You shouldn't be able to use the first ability to pay for .

Consider another permanent with
"Tap this: produce one mana of any color"
"{1}, Sacrifice this: <some effect>"

In this case we can use the first ability to pay for the in the second ability.

Hmm, seems to be an issue of preventing using a cost in the ability to do something else. So if we are paying for the second ability, we should not be able to use mana abilities who costs overlap with activated ability we are trying to pay for.

[ShawnieBoy]

I know this isn't really a bug but...
Is the 'removal' value in MagicCardDefinition still being used in card scripts? Just stumbled across it on Reckless Abandon and it's still there in MagicCardDefinition.

[melvin]

I know this isn't really a bug but...
Is the 'removal' value in MagicCardDefinition still being used in card scripts? Just stumbled across it on Reckless Abandon and it's still there in MagicCardDefinition.

Yes, it is only used in ArtificialScoringSystem.getCardDefinitionScore (line 77) to compute the card score.

[ShawnieBoy]

So should we be adding a removal value to all scripted cards that deal damage then?

[muaddib]

Hunter of Eyeblights can destroy creature with shroud - Algae Gharial.

[melvin]

Hunter of Eyeblights can destroy creature with shroud - Algae Gharial.

Thanks for catching this, fixed in https://code.google.com/p/magarena/sour ... 9a954443c3 for next release.

[melvin]

So should we be adding a removal value to all scripted cards that deal damage then?

Not important, but good to add it for consistency.

[muaddib]

When Infernal Medusa attack I blocked her Isao, Enlightened Bushi then regenerate him (screenshot 1)
After my turn, Isao, Enlightened Bushi unexpectedly try to destroy, but I regenerate him (screenshot 2,3)
After computer turn Isao, Enlightened Bushi unexpectedly try to destroy again and destroyed because I have no mana (screenshot 4).
Is it bug of Infernal Medusa?

[melvin]

Problem was trigger was marked as permanent. Thanks for catching this, fixed in https://code.google.com/p/magarena/sour ... cda852f297

[noxxle]

After exiting Magarena (1.47), I am unable to move icons on my desktop until logging out. I've tested on two windows 8 tablets, Lenovo's Miix 8 and Thinkpad 8.

Any idea what could cause this?

[tonetisd]

When Jaddi Lifestrider comes into play doesn't allow you to tap creatures to win life.

Thanks.