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Card wishlist

PostPosted: 11 Dec 2010, 11:11
by ubeefx
This is the thread to request for cards. Priority of requested cards will depend on how many changes they would require to the engine to implement

We currently do not support the cards that make use of the following:
- add more than 1 mana to the mana pool
- has multiple targets

with updates by melvin

updated by melvin on July 7th 2013. Removed the following items as we now encourage more cards to be added to the game
- no Planeswalker cards

updated by melvin on June 7th 2012. Removed the following items as we now encourage more cards to be added to the game
- only cards printed starting from Invasion block and 7th edition
- maximum converted mana cost of 8
- maximum three different colors in cost
- no cards that require monocolored decks
- no combo cards or very narrow cards
- only lands that help produce mana of multiple colors

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 12 Dec 2010, 22:42
by ubeefx

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 14 Dec 2010, 12:03
by eidolon
Hi, ubeefx!
I am having a lot of fun with your game.
As an active cube player ( ... ost4220159), here are a few cards that I am currently using, that could make it into your list:

Steppe Lynx
Kor Skyfisher
Silver Knight
Lone Missionary
Wall of Omens
Galepowder Mage
Kor Sanctifiers
Cloudgoat Ranger
Sunblast Angel
Sun Titan
Journey to Nowhere
Oblivion Ring
Scepter of Dominance
Faith's Fetters
Wrath of God
Austere Command

Vendilion Clique
Æther Adept
Sea Gate Oracle
Sower of Temptation
Force Spike
Memory Lapse
Into the Roil
Thirst for Knowledge
Compulsive Research
Crystal Shard
Vedalken Shackles
Faerie Conclave
Academy Ruins

Vampire Lacerator
Fume Spitter
Oona's Prowler
Vampire Hexmage
Dark Confidant
Plague Sliver
Graveborn Muse
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen
Grave Titan
Last Gasp
Night's Whisper
Consuming Vapors
Barter in Blood

Spikeshot Elder
Keldon Marauders
Plated Geopede
Blood Knight
Ember Hauler
Hearth Kami
Goblin Ruinblaster
Inferno Titan
Forked Bolt
Volcanic Hammer
Smash to Smithereens
Arc Trail
Sulfuric Vortex
Molten Rain
Destructive Force
Ghitu Encampment

Mire Boa
River Boa
Lotus Cobra
Viridian Shaman
Ohran Viper
Eternal Witness
Carven Caryatid
Wickerbough Elder
Indrik Stomphowler
Acidic Slime
Kodama of the North Tree
Rampaging Baloths
Woodfall Primus
Nostalgic Dreams
Vines of Vastwood
Plow Under
Treetop Village

All Signets, Talismans and Karoos (Talisman of Progress, Azorius Signet, Azorius Chancery)

Nemesis of Reason
Kird Ape
Loam Lion
Kitchen Finks
Horizon Canopy
Stillmoon Cavalier
Prophetic Bolt
Fire // Ice
Pernicious Deed
Wild Nacatl

Coalition Relic
City of Brass
Grand Coliseum

Perilous Myr
Lodestone Golem
Razormane Masticore
Sundering Titan
Chimeric Mass
Lightning Greaves
Umezawa's Jitte
Grafted Wargear
Sword of Body and Mind
Ratchet Bomb
Oblivion Stone
Icy Manipulator

I would also have a request for a card that should be removed in the next update: Gruul War Plow. This card is quite bad in a deck that doesn't have access to both Red and Green, but the computer keeps adding it to any deck, since it is an artifact and can theoretically played there.

Regards, eidolon (aka fuchs232)

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 14 Dec 2010, 20:22
by ubeefx
Hi eidolon!

Happy to hear you like the game. :D
I noticed your detailed bug reports on the issues page and I appreciate these very much.
I also noticed you already use the 1.2 snapshot version with deck support. Actually this is a very useful feature for testing. In later 1.2 snapshots I will fix the bugs you reported.

I never heard of Cube until know, but after checking the page out, it seems this is actually very close to the concept of Magarena. 8)

I used your extensive input to update the new cards list. Not all of your suggested cards fit easily into the engine. Magarena will probably never be a generic engine supporting all cards, but rather a very dedicated engine to support the cards it contains as well as possible both rule and AI wise. Luckily there are other cool projects also in Java on this forum for that purpose like Forge and Mage.


Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 14 Dec 2010, 21:12
by eidolon
You're welcome.
The AI is doing a really good job and I have no problems using a smaller card pool, if the computer doesn't misplay all the time.
In retrospective, some of the cards in the list above are not very likely to be included, like Prophetic Bolt or Vendillion Clique, since all other targeted discard/library manipulation has been excluded on purpose.

happy coding, eidolon

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 23 Feb 2011, 01:55
by drekonja
I don't have specific wishes, I will go with the standard more the better! I'm already wasting too much time with your program xd

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 05:48
by LSK
I would like to request the following cards:

Soul Warden
Soul's Attendant
Serra Ascendant
Ajani's Pridemate


and -
Nameless Inversion
Æther Vial
Living Death
Cranial Plating
Lightning Greaves
Doran, the Siege Tower
Reflecting Pool
Soul Foundry
Twilight Shepherd
Eternal Witness
Mimic Vat
Gatekeeper of Malakir
Avatar of Woe
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
Master of the Wild Hunt
Silvos, Rogue Elemental
Knotvine Paladin
Lorescale Coatl
Kavu Predator
Arcanis the Omnipotent
Ninja of the Deep Hours
Phantom Nishoba
Experiment Kraj
Rhys the Redeemed
Scute Mob
Bogardan Hellkite
Ryusei, the Falling Star
Splinter Twin
Engulfing Slagwurm
Perilous Myr

Yes, there is a pattern to these: These are the highest-rated cards in Gatherer that aren't currently in the game and that fit criteria for what can be added to the game.

Also, they're mostly creatures. Spells should probably be added too.

You should also add a lot of commons to balance these out. Also, add a lot of decent removal. To balance it out. :D

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 11:05
by ubeefx
Thanks for the selection.
I indeed try to add a lot of powerful removal to the game.
And I do try to add the powerful commons too. :)

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 14:48
by LSK

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 06 Apr 2011, 16:05
by ubeefx

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 07 Apr 2011, 22:00
by bobniborg
I would like to see a zip of a bunch of decks also. Is there anyway to have the program then pull from those decks for random battles.

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 19:00
by LSK
I'd like the ability to add new/custom cards externally (instead of needing to go into the code - which I haven't even looked at.)

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 09 Apr 2011, 20:11
by ubeefx
Due to the engine design, that is only possible for simple creatures, auras and equipment.
Puxl did already a good job to add several creature cards this way (singularita or all cube).
Creating a Forge kind of script language is not impossible, but would be lots of rework.
Part of the speed of the AI is also realized by the custom card coding and hints.

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 17 Apr 2011, 22:56
by LSK

Re: Card wishlist

PostPosted: 31 Jul 2011, 10:48
by madmarcel
Just a quick list of cards that I've implemented so far, and that you may see in the next release:

Phyrexian Vault
Culling Dais
Peregrine Mask
Argentum Armor

Metalcraft creatures:
Ardent Recruit
Auriok Edgewright
Auriok Sunchaser
Carapace Forger
Chrome Steed
Etched Champion
Ezuri's Brigade
Ghalma's Warden
Razorfield Rhino
Snapsail Glider
Spiraling Duelist

Metalcraft spells:
Galvanic Blast
Mirran Mettle

Kemba, Kha Regent
Luminous Angel
Luminous Wake
Curse of Chains
Dark Favor
Divine Favor

Kemba and Luminous Angel can both quickly bring about game states where the
AI takes a long time to think about what to do next BTW.