Manalink BETA update : 2000 limit NO MORE !

[stassy]

Disable your antivirus or put Magic.exe into whitelist before extracting? :p

[Sonic]

New compiled Card Art – Missing Token and Animated Cards.

I’ve completed recompiling the artwork for the cards which are currently marked as having artwork – and added custom artwork for those awkward cards like the ‘Split’ and ‘Flip’ cards and the currently listed ‘oval border’ tokens.

In the process of doing so, I think I’ve indentified all the missing ‘named’ tokens and cards that ‘becomes a creature’ (Animated) that are currently not set up in the new xls/csv file.

I already had, or have managed to collect the official artwork for many of these cards, either as scanned paper stock or created separately for Magic Online. But as some of them have never had artwork, I’m ether adapting artwork from other cards or looking for third party token artwork which might be acceptable.
The asterisks mark the tokens currently without artwork.

The creature types are fairly obvious, but I’ve added them where required, and listed the Tokens/Animated cards by the number of cards that generate them.

Feedback would be useful – especially as to whether some of the single use tokens would rather be adapted from existing multi-use tokens, and if anybody can look and find any I might have missed.

Construct (Artifact Creature – Construct)
Token – Stone Idol Trap (Worldwake)
Animated – Chimeric Sphere (Weatherlight), Chimeric Staff (Urza's Saga), Chimeric Egg (Darksteel), Chimeric Coils (Fifth Dawn), Chimeric Mass (Scars of Mirrodin)

Goblin Rogue
Token – Boggart Mob (Lorwyn), Marsh Flitter (Lorwyn), Warren Weirding (Morningtide), Weirding Shaman (Morningtide)

Rat
Token – Lab Rats (Stronghold), Marrow-Gnawer (Champions of Kamigawa), Plague of Vermin (Shadowmoor)

Bat
Token – Belfry Spirit (Guildpact), Skeletal Vampire (Guildpact), Sengir Nosferatu (Time Spiral)

Merfolk Wizard
Token – Summon the School (Lorwyn), Benthicore (Lorwyn), Stonybrook Schoolmaster (Morningtide)

Goblin Soldier
Token – Goblin Trenches (Apocalypse), Rise of the Hobgoblins (Eventide)

Ape
Token – Monkey Cage (Mercadian Masques), Pongify (Planar Chaos)
(Same artwork currently used by ‘Treetop Village Ape’)

Giant Warrior
Token – Feudkiller's Verdict (Morningtide), Giantbaiting (Shadowmoor)

Zombie Wizard
Token – Lich Lord of Unx (Alara Reborn)

Cat Warrior
Token – Jedit Ojanen of Efrava (Planar Chaos)

Faerie
Token – Hunted Troll (Ravnica: City of Guilds)
(Used this new artwork to replace the Faerie Rogue artwork currently being used by ‘Faerie Conclave Animated’)

Cloud Sprite Token (Creature – Faerie)
Token – Cloudseeder (Future Sight)
(Used artwork from Cloud Sprite - Mercadian Masques)

Turtle (Artifact Creature – Turtle)
Animated – Chimeric Idol (Prophecy)
(Adapted artwork from Chimeric Idol)

Wirefly (Artifact Creature – Insect)
Token – Wirefly Hive (Darksteel)
(Used artwork from Wirefly Hive)

Elemental Cat
Token – Firecat Blitz (Judgment)
(Adapted artwork from Firecat Blitz)

Twin (Artifact Creature – Construct)
Token – Gemini Engine (Darksteel)
(Used artwork from Gemini Engine)

Pincher
Token – Summoning Station (Fifth Dawn)

Goblin Warrior
Token – Wort, the Raidmother (Shadowmoor)

Giant
Token – Pact of the Titan (Future Sight)

Urami (Legendary Creature – Demon Spirit)
Token – Tomb of Urami (Saviors of Kamigawa)

Griffin
Token – Griffin Guide (Time Spiral)

Weird
Token – Thunderheads (Guildpact)

Merfolk
Token – Lullmage Mentor (Zendikar)

Shapeshifter Token
Token – Crib Swap (Lorwyn)

Tuktuk the Returned (Legendary Artifact Creature – Goblin Golem)
Token – Tuktuk the Explorer (Rise of the Eldrazi)

Bird Soldier
Token – Flurry of Wings (Alara Reborn)

Drake
Token – Leafdrake Roost (Dissension)

Caribou
Token – Caribou Range (Ice Age)

Kaldra (Legendary Artifact Creature – Avatar)
Token – Helm of Kaldra (Fifth Dawn)

Treefolk Shaman
Token – Reach of Branches (Morningtide)

Lizard
Token – Predatory Advantage (Alara Reborn)

Sand
Token – Dune-Brood Nephilim (Guildpact)

*Orb
Token – Phantasmal Sphere (Alliances)

*Splinter Token
Token – Splintering Wind (Alliances)

*Wall
Token – Tidal Wave (Mirage)

*Goblin Scout
Token – Goblin Scouts (Mirage)

*Butterfly (Creature – Insect)
Token – Giant Caterpillar (Mercadian Masques)

*Sheep
Token – Ovinomancer (Visions)
(I’d rather not use the naff artwork from the tokens in ‘Unglued’)

*Spike
Token – Spike Breeder (Stronghold)

*Kavu
Token – Penumbra Kavu (Apocalypse)

*Spawn (Artifact Creature – Spawn)
Token – Spawning Pit (Darksteel)

*Dragon Spirit
Token – Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang (Champions of Kamigawa)

*Correction*
*Festering Goblin Token (Creature – Zombie Goblin)
Token – Skirk Ridge Exhumer (Future Sight)


Currently listed in xls/csv but not required.

Maggot
Token – Carrion (Mirage) – Not used in latest Oracle rules. Carrion generates ‘Insect’ creature tokens.

Wild Pegasus – ? – Can’t find any mention of this token name anywhere.

[Aswan jaguar]

I don't know if you have seen what I posted here of missing cardartwork and mistakes in names of pictures that resolved in not showing the images,helps you:
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=5911&start=135#p77846

Sonic wrote:
Wild Pegasus – ? – Can’t find any mention of this token name anywhere.

About the Wild Pegasus is a token made of Sacred Mesa but the oracle has changed probably like Carrion - Maggot although I don't see the reason the name changed as even originally it still counted as Pegasus just had more impressive name.Too bad for oldtimers they want have their tokens named like once was.

Tokens you mention here are mostly about uncoded cards right?

[Sonic]

Yeah, thanks for the list. I used your posted list to initially check for card file name errors, but then went on to create a spreadsheet for comparison checking the card names in the xls file against the file names extracted from my current CardArtManalink folder. I'm fairly confident I now have the all the correctly named images corresponding to number listed by totaling the 'Num Pic' column - including the custom artwork I mentioned.

Gargaroz has already mentioned that some of the cards probably won't get coded. I assume because their mechanics can't currently be accommodated in the game. So I think it would be best to add the required artwork as, and if, Gargaroz activates the cards.

But really I posted the Token/Animated list purely for Gargaroz to decide whether the 'generator' cards mentioned will get coded and become active as to whether the named tokens will be required.
Currently the tokens are arranged in a neat block at the end of the file - so it would be nice to keep them that way and add the required token entries before any new expansion/core sets are added.

Ta for the 'Sacred Mesa' info. Now I've looked into it, it seems the "Wild" wording was removed after it's initial release in Mirage.

[Gargaroz]

Guys, here's some general rules for tokens and animated cards :

1) Artifacts that could be animate doesn't need tokens or additional slots for their animated version, unless it's specifically asked by the coders.

2) Token that differs only by P/T, colors or abilities should be merged (example : Blue Faerie and Black Faerie should be merged in Faerie).
Otherwise, tokens with more than 1 subtype should stay separated (example : Soldier and Soldier Ally).

3) As I alredy requested, if a non-artifact card has an animated / double / flip other identity, it should be put on the slot that immediatly follow its original identuty (example : 00000 Treetop Village, 00001 Treetop Village Ape).

Sonic and everyone working on the "final" CSV : as soon as someone has a something finished, please post it or upload it somewhere. And it would be great if you could upload both the XLS and CSV files.

[Sonic]

Guys, here's some general rules for tokens and animated cards :

1) Artifacts that could be animate doesn't need tokens or additional slots for their animated version, unless it's specifically asked by the coders.

2) Token that differs only by P/T, colors or abilities should be merged (example : Blue Faerie and Black Faerie should be merged in Faerie).
Otherwise, tokens with more than 1 subtype should stay separated (example : Soldier and Soldier Ally).

3) As I alredy requested, if a non-artifact card has an animated / double / flip other identity, it should be put on the slot that immediatly follow its original identuty (example : 00000 Treetop Village, 00001 Treetop Village Ape).

Sonic and everyone working on the "final" CSV : as soon as someone has a something finished, please post it or upload it somewhere. And it would be great if you could upload both the XLS and CSV files.

Given that info I could post a new candidate file in a couple of days.

I've restored all the missing long dashes in the Rules Text, and a few other typos I found in the Oracle file Mok and I used.
Corrected some errors in the 'Color' field, I knew to be wrong from the original posted beta csv file.
And sorted the 'Pic Num' entries - along with the artwork.

I still have a few questions though (remember non-coder)

You say an Animated card entry should be entered in the slot immediately after its 'generator' card.
So can I assume the card ID's aren't rigidly fixed within the csv anymore. Does the card_id.h file produced by the updating process take care of any movement in the ID number of the cards?
And if so would you like me to move Trench Gorger and insert a slot alphabetically within the 'Magic: Commander' block, and then reorder the token entries with the new entries alphabetically.

Also, I have no idea how these 'New Types' codes work. I presume I can copy and paste the types for the new tokens from existing entries, but I'll leave those I'm not too sure of. I'll enter all the basic parameter data for the tokens - as done with the currently un-coded cards in the original beta Oracle manalink.csv.

[Gargaroz]

Sonic,
- Feel free to do your rearranging thing, the csv2dat will take care of creating a new IDs file. Just remember my previosu instructions
- For now, leave these fields blank (0), they work differently from Subtype and Subtype2. As soon as we update the main code for making that fields useable, we'll update the CSV too.

[Mok]

So can I assume the card ID's aren't rigidly fixed within the csv anymore. Does the card_id.h file produced by the updating process take care of any movement in the ID number of the cards?

The original cards must be left alone. That includes tokens in that range too.

Also, I have no idea how these 'New Types' codes work. I presume I can copy and paste the types for the new tokens from existing entries, but I'll leave those I'm not too sure of. I'll enter all the basic parameter data for the tokens - as done with the currently un-coded cards in the original beta Oracle manalink.csv.

The new types are a simple conversion of the type line into values from stypes.h from src directory (just open the file and use it to get the values for each word in type line). I see now that Gargaroz extended them somewhat which I consider not really a good idea as it was planned to only use official types from current rules but I don't really care as to be honest the fields won't be useful too much. They won't work with any type changes without major changes in the exe that will likely never happen. So the fields can be used (maybe) in C code that checks types on original/unchanged card but any effects that change card sub/type won't be correct as the data is read-only.

[Mok]

Corrected some errors in the 'Color' field, I knew to be wrong from the original posted beta csv file.

Anything more serious than a couple of colorless/nothing for cards where it doesn't matter? I'm asking as there were some minor changes compared to old csv like colored artifacts being set to colors and no longer as colorless.

[Sonic]

OK, in the final straight. I'll post a full update of the changes when I post the files and the artwork.

Anyway, I'd like to remove any unnecessary 'Empty' slots from the xls file.
I realise the original card 'Empty/None' slots can't be removed. I believe this includes any slot from 0-953?

There was some initial talk at the start of the project that any slot below 1700 should be left alone. However, many of the tokens that occupied these slots (954-1700?) have now been moved to the end of the xls file. So can the 'Empty' slots in this range be removed?

@Mok - Thanks for the heads up on the 'New Types' fields. Once I started adding the new tokens, I saw the basic pattern - but the specific creature types info was useful in a couple of cases of cases. Although, I agree with your premise of updating the Sub/Type list from the latest rules sub/type listing.

Once I checked your 'Color' entries against my corrected beta csv file, I only ended up correcting 1 or possibly 2 entries, if I remember rightly.

[Mok]

Anyway, I'd like to remove any unnecessary 'Empty' slots from the xls file.
I realise the original card 'Empty/None' slots can't be removed. I believe this includes any slot from 0-953?

The problem with slots in range 0-1200 and some in 1200-1700 is simple, the code accesses some of the cards via their card id inside Magic.exe and ManalinkEx.dll. So even if you remove the unused card you must fill the slot with something else. I believe in range 1-1000 only id 31 can be replaced as it's unused AFAICT. Other empty slots like 872+ are used for tokens and effects by the original code and must be left alone. Even if the card is recoded completely, the original engine still might access some data while assuming say slot 892 is Rukh Token. If you put an unrelated card in it's place (assuming Rukh Egg was recoded) it might have problems later due to engine skipping it for some calculations or something similar.

I have no idea about empty slots in 1100-1700 as these weren't added by me. But if you remove empty card there, you need to fill it with something else so the order is kept and some lands in range 1200+ and 1600+ are working correctly.

Thanks for your work on xls/csv files, I know it's tedious.

BTW: I believe Gargaroz made a lot of changes to the other xls file (maybe some to the main xls too) and that one will need correction of broken special characters too (Ć->Æ and so on).

[Mok]

Sonic, here is pack of tokens from hm... "other place". You can check if you already have all of these: http://www.mediafire.com/?iygf9yxzcrf0sqc

[Gargaroz]

Thanks for your work on xls/csv files, I know it's tedious.
BTW: I believe Gargaroz made a lot of changes to the other xls file (maybe some to the main xls too) and that one will need correction of broken special characters too (Ć->Æ and so on).

Many thanks from me too, Sonic
I made just one change to manalink.csv and some more on ct_all.csv. However, I didn't fix the special characters Mok mentioned.
I'm in the process of coding Dark Ascension (complete coding, I'm going on as the spoiler is revealed) and Mercadian Masques (only worthing cards), so I'll probably modify the ct_all a lot in the next future.

But for now, let's concentrare in the first "main" version, so here's the current ct_all in xls format.
Sonic, please fix the special characters and post the file back along with the "complete" CSV.

[oito]

Just one question: I can't seem to find "Eldrazi Conscription" in the new version. Is it marked as uncoded?

[Mok]

Just one question: I can't seem to find "Eldrazi Conscription" in the new version. Is it marked as uncoded?

Nope, it's subtypes are set to "eldrazi" and "creature" which is incorrect for the deckbuilder (and since I haven't touched old subtypes, I missed it). So my question to Gargaroz: is it properly set for "eldrazi enchantments"? Deckbuilder accepts only old style enchantment subtype in first slot, if you changed it in the past, tell me, and I'll remove this limitation. But I think old engine will expect aura type in first subtype slot, so it should be swapped to "creature" and "eldrazi" plus similar changes to any other enchantments that might have it swapped.