[still bugged]Chronozoa - Paradox Haze issue

[joo]

Describe the Bug:
If Chronozoa 's last time counter is removed by some other method other than the "natural" one (i.e. getting a counter removed during upkeep due to "Vanishing" ability), such as with Jhoira's Timebug , Clockspinning , Rift Elemental or Fury Charm , the creature will simply die and does not get "cloned".

Which card did behave improperly ?
Chronozoa

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
July 2013 v2

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Whenever Chronozoa dies, if it has zero time counters on it (regardless of how the last counter got removed), it should make 2 copies of itself.

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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[joo]

Also, strangely, you sometimes seem to get free Air Elementals when Chronozoa does "clone itself".

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chronozoa2.rar

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[Aswan jaguar]

I confirm these bugs.
About the Air Elemental's that come for free when Chronozoa dies to counters has to do with bad interaction with Paradox Haze which Korath already fixed maybe this has been fixed,too.
Maybe Korath fixed another bug I found that if Chronozoa had 1 time counter with Paradox Haze in play targetting you and then in your upkeep triggered after the first upkeep you will have 2 Chronozoa (original died/copied)correctly but after that comes the 2nd upkeep and the 2 chronozoa have to loose a counter but this doesn't happen and they keep having 2 counters on them.

[Korath]

Nothing I've done will affect this. Paradox Haze fixes are always specific to the card they're interacting with (or at most to a handful of similar cards that share part of their code), and the fix for Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant sometimes being an Air Elemental is specific to flipping/transforming/animating cards.

[Korath]

This is currently working correctly in dev. Most of it seems to have already been fixed in time for the current patch. Rift Elemental and AEther Snap were still broken, and Fury Charm always removed all counters (as did many other things; the Thallid mechanic is prominent among them); fixed those in e475574, ece4d53, and 87ef52d respectively.

Paradox Haze interaction will have to wait until there's actually extra upkeeps, instead of each card's upkeep trigger being run repeatedly. This wouldn't actually be difficult, but Gargaroz recently went to a great deal of trouble to be sure everything's triggers the right number of times, and I'd feel bad about taking that out.

[BAgate]

It's working in release too.

[Gargaroz]

Current status - it works almost perfectly apart from the following scenario :
Chronozoa with 1 counter + 1 Paradox Haze attached to yourself at upkeep phase -->
2 Chronozoa with 3 counters. It should be 2 Chronozoa with 2 counters, as on the first upkeep phase the counter is removed and Chronozoa duplicates, and on the second a Time counter should be removed from both Chronozoa.
And, of course, is tricky as hell to fix this.

[Aswan jaguar]

A step back on this as now creates only 1 token when dying with no counters on it.

[Korath]

I'm getting the proper number of counters in dev, both with that save and in general. Number of tokens was broken while making all token generation honor Sleight of Mind; fixed in ce9b8b3.

[BAgate]

Most of it works correctly, but still doesn't play nice with Paradox Haze. Chronozoa in play with 1 counter and a Paradox Haze affecting controller and after upkeep you are left with 2 Chronozoa with 3 counters each.