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[confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

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[confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

Postby stassy » 24 Jul 2015, 11:57

Describe the Bug:
- Battlefront Krushok can be blocked by more than one creature
- Creatures with a +1/+1 counter owned by caster can be blocked by more than one creature

Which card did behave improperly ?
Battlefront Krushok

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
Manalink 2015/3/25: Fate Reforged,duel

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Battlefront Krushok abilities do something

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
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The usual workaround (2nd blocker is put back to bf) doesn't seem to trigger.
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Re: [confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

Postby Korath » 10 Dec 2015, 01:13

Looks like the equivalent of "~ and creatures you control with +1/+1 counters can't be blocked by more than two creatures" instead of "more than one" when a human is blocking. Changing "count_my_blockers(...) > 1" to "count_my_blockers(...) >= 1" will fix that part.

It can't possibly be made to work when the AI is blocking; it seems to precompute whether each creature can block each other creature, rather than applying blockers sequentially, and we don't understand what's going on in there nearly well enough to change anything with any amount of confidence.

The "usual workaround" of just removing illegal blocks after the fact is a pretty poor one; it'll still cause blocking triggers to happen sometimes (depending on relative timestamps), and manages to make AI blocking choices even worse than usual. That's a bit impressive in itself, but still, no thanks.

Charging Rhino has that hack in it, complete with the comment from Phyrexian Colossus/Guile/Pathrazer of Ulamog/Underworld Cerberus pasted in unchanged, and looks to be more or less functional, if somebody else is willing to deal with this that way. It actually makes the creature completely unblocked if more than one blocker is assigned; I can't decide if that's better or worse than picking one of the blockers to leave in place or not.

Outland Colossus is blocked by the same issue. And I guess if you want to compound the problem, Stalking Tiger, Ironhoof Ox, Norwood Riders, Huang Zhong, Shu General, and Krosan Vorine all have the same ability.
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Re: [confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

Postby Korath » 10 Dec 2015, 02:40

Closely related:
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Re: [confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

Postby Aswan jaguar » 31 Dec 2017, 09:08

Also Alpha Authority seems to make the enchanted creature unblockable at least by 1,2 and 3 blockers.
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Re: [confirmed]Battlefront Krushok abilities do nothing

Postby Korath » 17 Oct 2018, 06:56

Commit 8f176e0 implements this (with proper combat AI) in Shandalar; it depends on 6329a36 and 34f329b. All three should be backportable to Manalink with only moderate effort.
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