[con]Can't turn manifested nonmorph faceup except w/manifest
Posted: 04 Feb 2017, 09:15Describe the Bug:
If you manifest a card without morph, you can't turn it face-up with either Skirk Alarmist or Ixidor, Reality Sculptor - you can activate, but nothing happens at resolution.
Which card behaved improperly?
Skirk Alarmist and Ixidor, Reality Sculptor.
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Dev 2bba4ec.
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
Never nothing. If the face-down card is a permanent (ignoring continuous effects), it gets turned face-up. Even if it isn't, it gets revealed and stays face-down.
For the first part, there isn't anything saying that the effects specifically don't apply to cards that are face-down due to manifest. For the second:
701.32e If a manifested permanent that's represented by an instant or sorcery card would turn face up, its controller reveals it and leaves it face down. Abilities that trigger whenever a permanent is turned face up won't trigger.
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
Break Open is the only other card that can turn an arbitrary card face-up, and it isn't in Manalink.
Ixidor and the Alarmist work properly with morph cards, and with manifested morph cards. I haven't tested them with Illusionary Mask.
If you manifest a card without morph, you can't turn it face-up with either Skirk Alarmist or Ixidor, Reality Sculptor - you can activate, but nothing happens at resolution.
Which card behaved improperly?
Skirk Alarmist and Ixidor, Reality Sculptor.
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Dev 2bba4ec.
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
Never nothing. If the face-down card is a permanent (ignoring continuous effects), it gets turned face-up. Even if it isn't, it gets revealed and stays face-down.
For the first part, there isn't anything saying that the effects specifically don't apply to cards that are face-down due to manifest. For the second:
701.32e If a manifested permanent that's represented by an instant or sorcery card would turn face up, its controller reveals it and leaves it face down. Abilities that trigger whenever a permanent is turned face up won't trigger.
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
Break Open is the only other card that can turn an arbitrary card face-up, and it isn't in Manalink.
Ixidor and the Alarmist work properly with morph cards, and with manifested morph cards. I haven't tested them with Illusionary Mask.