[fixed]Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
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[fixed]Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
by Aswan jaguar » 07 Jul 2018, 11:11
Describe the Bug:
1- Necrotic Ooze doesn't have activated mana abilities of creatures in graveyard.
2- When you activate it you get a menu with a Swamp (for each creature) with activated abilities of creatures in graveyard. or cancel.
3- I am not sure about this but if you activate an ability like Thraben Gargoyle with Necrotic Ooze nothing happens. Shouldn't Necrotic Ooze be transformed to Stonewing Antagonizer? Thraben Gargoyle // Stonewing Antagonizer wrong
Which card did behave improperly?
Necrotic Ooze
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Manalink dev 778ccb5 version - duel
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
1- Necrotic Ooze has activated mana abilities of creatures in graveyard.
2- When you activate it you get a menu with names of the creatures with activated abilities in all graveyards.
3- If I get below ruling right it should transform as the ability becomes "Transform Necrotic Ooze." from "Transform Thraben Gargoyle."wrong:
1/1/2011 If an activated ability of a card in a graveyard references the card it’s printed on by name, treat Necrotic Ooze’s version of that ability as though it referenced Necrotic Ooze by name instead. For example, if Cudgel Troll (which says “Green: Regenerate Cudgel Troll”) is in a graveyard, Necrotic Ooze has the ability “Green: Regenerate Necrotic Ooze.”
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
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1- Necrotic Ooze doesn't have activated mana abilities of creatures in graveyard.
2- When you activate it you get a menu with a Swamp (for each creature) with activated abilities of creatures in graveyard. or cancel.
Which card did behave improperly?
Necrotic Ooze
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Manalink dev 778ccb5 version - duel
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
1- Necrotic Ooze has activated mana abilities of creatures in graveyard.
2- When you activate it you get a menu with names of the creatures with activated abilities in all graveyards.
1/1/2011 If an activated ability of a card in a graveyard references the card it’s printed on by name, treat Necrotic Ooze’s version of that ability as though it referenced Necrotic Ooze by name instead. For example, if Cudgel Troll (which says “Green: Regenerate Cudgel Troll”) is in a graveyard, Necrotic Ooze has the ability “Green: Regenerate Necrotic Ooze.”
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
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Re: Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
by Korath » 07 Jul 2018, 13:37
3: No.
Rule 701.27c: If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform a permanent that isn't represented by a double-faced card, nothing happens.
So that ability would only do something if the card was a dfc that had been made into a copy of Necrotic Ooze. It still wouldn't have any visible effect until the copy effect wore off.
The ruling you quote is because WOTC (almost always) templates "this card" as [cardname] - the effect is to "regenerate this", not "find some Cudgel Troll somewhere and regenerate it". Likewise, the transform ability is still " : Transform this card", it just doesn't do anything when it resolves because of 701.27c.
Rule 701.27c: If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform a permanent that isn't represented by a double-faced card, nothing happens.
So that ability would only do something if the card was a dfc that had been made into a copy of Necrotic Ooze. It still wouldn't have any visible effect until the copy effect wore off.
The ruling you quote is because WOTC (almost always) templates "this card" as [cardname] - the effect is to "regenerate this", not "find some Cudgel Troll somewhere and regenerate it". Likewise, the transform ability is still " : Transform this card", it just doesn't do anything when it resolves because of 701.27c.
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Re: Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
by gnomefry » 20 Jun 2022, 20:53
Describe the Bug:
2022 Update: Necrotic Ooze now has the activated abilities of creatures in the graveyard. At least for the several abilities I tested.
However, the issue remains that every entry on the activation menu is titled identically, as "Swamp".
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Holidays 2021 ad1a6f8 - gauntlet
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
It would be helpful to know what abilities are available and which entry you should click to get the one you want. I understand implementation is probably a PITA due to the open-ended nature of this card's ability.
2022 Update: Necrotic Ooze now has the activated abilities of creatures in the graveyard. At least for the several abilities I tested.
However, the issue remains that every entry on the activation menu is titled identically, as "Swamp".
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
Holidays 2021 ad1a6f8 - gauntlet
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
It would be helpful to know what abilities are available and which entry you should click to get the one you want. I understand implementation is probably a PITA due to the open-ended nature of this card's ability.
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Re: Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
by gnomefry » 21 Jun 2022, 03:02
I notice now that AJ's original post was reporting activated mana abilities in particular as missing, not activated abilities in general. My bad -- the mana abilities are still missing!
Re: [confirmed]Necrotic Ooze swamp for creature names
by drool66 » 21 Jun 2022, 20:36
Fixed both, and also made less prone to random crashes.
EDIT: 954b86a
EDIT: 954b86a
Last edited by drool66 on 02 Jul 2022, 01:35, edited 1 time in total.
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