[confirmed]Wolf of Devil's Breach partial payment
Posted: 17 Sep 2020, 16:13
Describe the Bug:
If, during resolution of Wolf of Devil's Breach, you have a card in hand before mana payment but no longer do afterward before the discard, the mana is still charged and not refunded to your pool. This can be verified by having another card with a trigger with a mana cost that happens at the same time.
Handy cards to test with: Skirge Familiar, Frenzied Goblin
Also, the prompt is broken.
Which card behaved improperly?
Wolf of Devil's Breach.
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
e9c9e7228 - (master) [SA] [drawcardlib] +cards
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
118.3. A player can't pay a cost without having the necessary resources to pay it fully. For example, a player with only 1 life can't pay a cost of 2 life, and a permanent that's already tapped can't be tapped to pay a cost. See rule 202, "Mana Cost and Color," and rule 602, "Activating Activated Abilities."
So you can either pay and discard, or neither, but not just one or the other. Here, if I tapped the Mountain and activated the Skirge Familiar, then the discard for the Wolf failed, I should have in my pool when the Frenzied Goblin's trigger resolves.
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
I don't think so, at least not for triggers. I'd hope that activation costs that look like this (Mental Discipline, for example) deal with it properly.
I first tried testing this with Simian Spirit Guide (and no other cards in hand) instead of Skirge Familiar, but wasn't prompted to resolve the trigger. That would be good, except I suspect it's because the Guide isn't declaring any mana available and so I wouldn't get prompted even if I did have other cards.
If, during resolution of Wolf of Devil's Breach, you have a card in hand before mana payment but no longer do afterward before the discard, the mana is still charged and not refunded to your pool. This can be verified by having another card with a trigger with a mana cost that happens at the same time.
Handy cards to test with: Skirge Familiar, Frenzied Goblin
Also, the prompt is broken.
Which card behaved improperly?
Wolf of Devil's Breach.
Which update are you using? (date, name)Which type? (duel, gauntlet, sealed deck)
e9c9e7228 - (master) [SA] [drawcardlib] +cards
What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction?
118.3. A player can't pay a cost without having the necessary resources to pay it fully. For example, a player with only 1 life can't pay a cost of 2 life, and a permanent that's already tapped can't be tapped to pay a cost. See rule 202, "Mana Cost and Color," and rule 602, "Activating Activated Abilities."
So you can either pay and discard, or neither, but not just one or the other. Here, if I tapped the Mountain and activated the Skirge Familiar, then the discard for the Wolf failed, I should have in my pool when the Frenzied Goblin's trigger resolves.
Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug?
I don't think so, at least not for triggers. I'd hope that activation costs that look like this (Mental Discipline, for example) deal with it properly.
I first tried testing this with Simian Spirit Guide (and no other cards in hand) instead of Skirge Familiar, but wasn't prompted to resolve the trigger. That would be good, except I suspect it's because the Guide isn't declaring any mana available and so I wouldn't get prompted even if I did have other cards.