CSV errors & Legacy/Effect cards with no text
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CSV errors & Legacy/Effect cards with no text
by Gargaroz » 13 Aug 2012, 15:07
I noticed there's quite a lot of cards that generate "empty" legacy cards, as they lack the proper text in Manalink.csv.
Please note them when you're playing and report them in this thread (moderators, please "stick" this post), so we could add a proper effect text, they're just too ugly in this way.
Please note them when you're playing and report them in this thread (moderators, please "stick" this post), so we could add a proper effect text, they're just too ugly in this way.
Last edited by Aswan jaguar on 03 Jun 2015, 13:46, edited 3 times in total.
Reason: sticky/ renamed to add csv errors too.
Reason: sticky/ renamed to add csv errors too.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Sonic » 14 Aug 2012, 00:14
I've tried to add the Effects/Legacy text whenever I've come across them in play. So having a reporting thread is a good idea.
porphyre@ We have a problem displaying the text of a single effect if it happens to be one of a number of selectable alternative effects.
The manalink format allows for the listing of separate effects in the Effects/Legacy Text fields by using |#1, |#2, |#3 to separate each effect entries. Although it still works on the older cards, I'm not sure the coding has ever been transferred over to C in order to allow it work with the newer cards - I tried it on a number of cards sometime back but they failed to recognise the codes.
It seems more recently the newer cards just list all the possible effects in the Effects/Legacy Text fields with 'and/or'.
The same seems to go for 'inflatable' cards which use '|n' in the Effects/Legacy Text fields to display the current power/toughness as the effect is 'pumped'.
porphyre@ We have a problem displaying the text of a single effect if it happens to be one of a number of selectable alternative effects.
The manalink format allows for the listing of separate effects in the Effects/Legacy Text fields by using |#1, |#2, |#3 to separate each effect entries. Although it still works on the older cards, I'm not sure the coding has ever been transferred over to C in order to allow it work with the newer cards - I tried it on a number of cards sometime back but they failed to recognise the codes.
It seems more recently the newer cards just list all the possible effects in the Effects/Legacy Text fields with 'and/or'.
The same seems to go for 'inflatable' cards which use '|n' in the Effects/Legacy Text fields to display the current power/toughness as the effect is 'pumped'.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Aswan jaguar » 14 Aug 2012, 07:20
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 14 Aug 2012, 18:10
Do we have to add also legacy effect that are not in bf for gameplay purpose but only for coding purpose like the Modular creatures (Arcbound Ravager, Arcbound Hybrid and so on...)?
Edit: Well, the zubera is the answer then.
Modular effect card:
Arcbound Ravager
Arcbound Hybrid
Arcbound Overseer
Arcbound Reclaimer
Arcbound Slith
Arcbound Stinger
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Wanderer
Special Effect card (which has his own effect card stacked with the epic card) for Epic system:
Endless Swarm
Enduring Ideal
Eternal Dominion
Neverending Torment
Undying Flames
Hideaway effect card:
Windbrisk Heights
Shelldock Isle
Living weapon effect card:
Bonehoard
Madness effect (in fact, the effect card attached to the Madness effect card):
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla
Phase effect:
Shimmer
Recoded cards:
Clone
Phyrexian Metamorph
When creature die card effect:
Goblin Arsonist
Elder Cathar
Rotcrown Ghoul
Brine Hag (card effect is only shown as an attached enchantment to creature that killed it and show the basic magic verso of a card)
Gang of Devils
Polluted Dead
Oculus
Mortis Dogs
Edit: Well, the zubera is the answer then.
Modular effect card:
Arcbound Ravager
Arcbound Hybrid
Arcbound Overseer
Arcbound Reclaimer
Arcbound Slith
Arcbound Stinger
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Wanderer
Special Effect card (which has his own effect card stacked with the epic card) for Epic system:
Endless Swarm
Enduring Ideal
Eternal Dominion
Neverending Torment
Undying Flames
Hideaway effect card:
Windbrisk Heights
Shelldock Isle
Living weapon effect card:
Bonehoard
Madness effect (in fact, the effect card attached to the Madness effect card):
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla
Phase effect:
Shimmer
Recoded cards:
Clone
Phyrexian Metamorph
When creature die card effect:
Goblin Arsonist
Elder Cathar
Rotcrown Ghoul
Brine Hag (card effect is only shown as an attached enchantment to creature that killed it and show the basic magic verso of a card)
Gang of Devils
Polluted Dead
Oculus
Mortis Dogs
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Sonic » 16 Aug 2012, 02:25
Current corrections done:
Zubera cards: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Modular effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Arcbound Ravager
Arcbound Hybrid
Arcbound Overseer
Arcbound Reclaimer
Arcbound Slith
Arcbound Stinger
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Wanderer
Special Effect card: None of the attached Effects cards work, with text entered in either Effect or Legacy Text fields.
Endless Swarm
Enduring Ideal
Eternal Dominion
Neverending Torment
Undying Flames
Hideaway effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Windbrisk Heights
Shelldock Isle
Living weapon effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entry.
Bonehoard
Madness effect: Neither attached Effect card works – with text entered in either Effect or Legacy Text fields.
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla (already has ability text in Effect Text)
Phase effect: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entry.
Shimmer
Recoded cards: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Clone
Phyrexian Metamorph
When creature die card effect: Added missing text ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Goblin Arsonist
Elder Cathar
Rotcrown Ghoul
Brine Hag (updated text to match current Rules text)
Gang of Devils
Polluted Dead
Oculus
Mortis Dogs
Just so you all know – please don’t report ‘EQUIPMENT’ cards until after the next release. They’ve now all been corrected.
Zubera cards: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Modular effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Arcbound Ravager
Arcbound Hybrid
Arcbound Overseer
Arcbound Reclaimer
Arcbound Slith
Arcbound Stinger
Arcbound Worker
Arcbound Wanderer
Special Effect card: None of the attached Effects cards work, with text entered in either Effect or Legacy Text fields.
Endless Swarm
Enduring Ideal
Eternal Dominion
Neverending Torment
Undying Flames
Hideaway effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Windbrisk Heights
Shelldock Isle
Living weapon effect card: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entry.
Bonehoard
Madness effect: Neither attached Effect card works – with text entered in either Effect or Legacy Text fields.
Arrogant Wurm
Basking Rootwalla (already has ability text in Effect Text)
Phase effect: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entry.
Shimmer
Recoded cards: Added missing text to ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Clone
Phyrexian Metamorph
When creature die card effect: Added missing text ‘Effects Text’ entries.
Goblin Arsonist
Elder Cathar
Rotcrown Ghoul
Brine Hag (updated text to match current Rules text)
Gang of Devils
Polluted Dead
Oculus
Mortis Dogs
Just so you all know – please don’t report ‘EQUIPMENT’ cards until after the next release. They’ve now all been corrected.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 16 Aug 2012, 08:48
I didn't have time to finish my checking on "When creature die" card effect because there is around 50ish card to be checked (I think I checked at last 25ish of them, the ones reported as textless included).
For those who want to finish the test, here is a deck I made to be checked in legit mirror match with lotalife debug mode (since lands are City of Brass), unfortunately at work there is an internet problem and I can't connect from there these days.
I noticed also there are some bugged cards that I couldn't report (maybe Brine Hag or some goblinz) but I forgot about them, will do them once internet is back
For those who want to finish the test, here is a deck I made to be checked in legit mirror match with lotalife debug mode (since lands are City of Brass), unfortunately at work there is an internet problem and I can't connect from there these days.
I noticed also there are some bugged cards that I couldn't report (maybe Brine Hag or some goblinz) but I forgot about them, will do them once internet is back
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 16 Aug 2012, 17:11
Some more legacy textless cards:
Wurmcoil Engine (textless legacy card named Deathtouch Copy attached to one of the 2 wurm when Wurmcoil Engine die)
Driver of the Dead
Pitchburn Devils
Darkslick Drake
Serum Raker
Golgary Thug
Mindslicer
Loyal Cathar (don't know if it's really needed since the effect trigger and disappear too fast to read anything)
Black Cat
Wurmcoil Engine (textless legacy card named Deathtouch Copy attached to one of the 2 wurm when Wurmcoil Engine die)
Driver of the Dead
Pitchburn Devils
Darkslick Drake
Serum Raker
Golgary Thug
Mindslicer
Loyal Cathar (don't know if it's really needed since the effect trigger and disappear too fast to read anything)
Black Cat
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Sonic » 16 Aug 2012, 22:53
I've been through the test.dck file you posted and added the relevant text if needed. Many thanks for that, it made the whole process a lot easier.stassy wrote:Some more legacy textless cards:
Wurmcoil Engine (textless legacy card named Deathtouch Copy attached to one of the 2 wurm when Wurmcoil Engine die)
Driver of the Dead
Pitchburn Devils
Darkslick Drake
Serum Raker
Golgary Thug
Mindslicer
Loyal Cathar (don't know if it's really needed since the effect trigger and disappear too fast to read anything)
Black Cat
I've since run a 'When * dies' filter on the Rules Text fields in the manalink.xls file and discovered quite a few more. Gonna be busy it seems.
Edit: Added 'Effect Text' to all cards with 'Target creature gets' and 'Target creature gains' - please don't report these now until after next update.
See, told you I'd be busy.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 17 Aug 2012, 06:16
Damn another one that slipped my radar :
Consuming Vapors
Nomads' Assembly legacy card as its title named Rebound instead of Nomads' Assembly (There are a few cards with name of effect instead of card name like Desertion, shall we change them too?)
Consuming Vapors
Nomads' Assembly legacy card as its title named Rebound instead of Nomads' Assembly (There are a few cards with name of effect instead of card name like Desertion, shall we change them too?)
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Sonic » 17 Aug 2012, 10:24
Funny you should mention that - I've already done them.stassy wrote:There are a few cards with name of effect instead of card name like Desertion, shall we change them too?
I been meaning to do it for sometime as the Effect/Legacy Titles have always been somewhat inconsistent, and many cards have multiple keyword effects/abilities listed in their effects cards text which can't be shown in the available space for the title.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 17 Aug 2012, 12:16
Same question about card that exile spells and can buyback them (Kaho, Minamo Historian for example, exiled card show only their title and are textless)
Iname as One
Kaho, Minamo Historian
Iname as One
Kaho, Minamo Historian
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by Sonic » 17 Aug 2012, 22:40
OK, thanks for those.stassy wrote:Same question about card that exile spells and can buyback them (Kaho, Minamo Historian for example, exiled card show only their title and are textless)
Iname as One
Kaho, Minamo Historian
I did the ‘Exalted’, 'Soulshift' and 'Rebound' cards today.
The 'exiled' and 'when * dies' cards seem somewhat inconstant as to whether they produce an Effect Card or not.
The other problem I've found is the one I mentioned earlier - that some cards produce more than one Effects Card in play for different effects. For example: Burr Grafter will display one Effects Card attached to a target creature for its 'Target creature gets +2/+2 until end of turn.' ability, and a separate card for the 'Soulshift (When this creature dies, you may return target Spirit card with converted mana cost 3 or less from your graveyard to your hand.)' effect.
And as the cards don't recognise the |#1, |#2, codes - both displayed Effects Cards will have to show both listed effects. But unfortunately there's not a lot I can do about that.
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 23 Aug 2012, 07:22
Shinen of Life's Roar legacy effect has the Rules Engine legacy effect, don't know if it's fixable because it's a Rule Engine activation of the Channel ability
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Re: Legacy effect with no text
by stassy » 24 Aug 2012, 08:18
Mana Drain as a custom text title and no rule text
Ivy Seer ability has a custom title
Shisato, Whispering Hunter (non untap ability effect)
Sorceress Queen (custom title on effect)
Ivy Seer ability has a custom title
Shisato, Whispering Hunter (non untap ability effect)
Sorceress Queen (custom title on effect)
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