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[fixed/closed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

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[fixed/closed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby PhoenixINC » 24 Apr 2015, 10:57

So this is my first time on the board and I hope everything is correct.

Describe the Bug:
In various situations Ugin can't be discarded
Example:
An opponent plays Wheel of Fortune while I'm having Ugin on my Hand.
Now the game can't continue because select Ugin for discard has no reaction.

Which card did behave improperly ?
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon

Which update are you using?(date,name)Which type(Duel,Gauntlet,Sealed Deck)
Manalink 2015/3/25: Fate Reforged,duel, gauntlet

What exactly should be the correct behavior/interaction ?
Ugin should be discardable

Are any other cards possibly affected by this bug ?
Everything that tries to let you discard Ugin
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Re: [confirmed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby BAgate » 24 Apr 2015, 11:38

In the future, please include a savegame or screenshot showing the bug.

Also, an oddity. If you cast a Death Wish to add an Ugin, the Spirit Dragon the spell resolves but Ugin is not put in your hand. However, debugging him into your hand works fine.
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Re: [confirmed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby Aswan jaguar » 24 Apr 2015, 14:22

1- Ugin, the Spirit Dragon comes into play with an utargetable sign which seems to be the same bug with discarding.
2- It is not subject to the plainswalker rule so you can have more than 1 in play.
3- Ugin, the Spirit Dragon 2nd ability - exile permanent - has the same bug as Reach of Shadows mentioned hereand affect colourless permanent as well.
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Re: [confirmed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby Korath » 06 May 2015, 00:39

An untargetable sign on a planeswalker is usually a symptom of it not being marked as Type:Enchantment in ct_all.csv.
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Re: [confirmed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby Aswan jaguar » 14 Dec 2015, 16:53

All bugs except the 3nd I mention here:
(3- Ugin, the Spirit Dragon 2nd ability - exile permanent - has the same bug as Reach of Shadows mentioned here and affect colourless permanent as well) which is duplicate can be fixed just by inserting the value Type:Enchantment in ct_all.csv Korath suggests above.Also solves this bug.
Korath or anyone having access to ct_all.csv please insert this value.

Ugin, the Spirit Dragon doesn't have any value set in type in ct_all.csv at all.
After I set the enchantment value in ct_all.csv and already it was set as an enchantment in Manalink.csv I had this strange thing happening in deck builder although it is "correctly" in enchantments list,in stats window it is marked as a creature (not enchantment as the rest plainswalkers)and only in the total column without being in any previous creature column.Where does it read it from?


So much trouble by a missing value. :shock:
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Re: Needs ct_allvalue]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be disca

Postby Korath » 14 Dec 2015, 19:19

Reach of Shadows, Ugin's Construct, and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon's 2nd ability's targeting fixed in 1f8816d. Type:Enchantment set in 424c30c. I haven't checked against discarding or The Chain Veil.

The stats button in the deckbuilder looks only at Manalink.csv values, and doesn't deal well at all with non-artifact colorless permanents at all. (The column labelled "Colorless" actually means "Artifact".) Karn Liberated shows up as a creature, too, and eldrazi like Artisan of Kozilek as Mana Sources. What's happening is that it's trying to put them in the 0th column of the next line.
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Re: Needs ct_allvalue]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be disca

Postby Aswan jaguar » 14 Dec 2015, 19:56

Korath wrote: I haven't checked against discarding or The Chain Veil.
I have already tested those and work just fine with the value inserted.
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Re: [fixed/closed]Ugin, the Spirit Dragon can't be discarded

Postby Korath » 03 Apr 2016, 20:25

Has a third duplicate here.
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