The Art of Things to Come
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by dingbat1 » 15 Dec 2015, 16:55
Couldn't this be approximated pretty closely by skipping the exile part? I don't know if it's easier to cast directly from the library, as opposed to exiling the card first, but this card is basically a tutor directly into playKorath wrote:T
[*]Bring to Light: Casting spells without paying their mana cost is surprisingly awkward, considering how common an effect that is, and casting them from exile more so.
(although I do know someone will complain about losing the ability to exile a card from their own library; perhaps a "choose an effect" dialog might mollify that?)
Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Sonic » 19 Dec 2015, 01:42
Korath - if you have time, could you please add these alternative card art images in the archive below to the patch release.
Accumulated Knowledge
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Avenger of Zendikar
Consume the Meek
Daybreak Coronet
Decree of Justice
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Etched Champion
Exalted Angel
Explore
Iridescent Angel
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Mother of Runes
Pillory of the Sleepless
Primal Command
Serra Angel
Shadowmage Infiltrator
Temple of the False God
Vendilion Clique
Wrath of God
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3g2ep ... iveArt.zip
Ta... Sonic
Accumulated Knowledge
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Avenger of Zendikar
Consume the Meek
Daybreak Coronet
Decree of Justice
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Etched Champion
Exalted Angel
Explore
Iridescent Angel
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Mother of Runes
Pillory of the Sleepless
Primal Command
Serra Angel
Shadowmage Infiltrator
Temple of the False God
Vendilion Clique
Wrath of God
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3g2ep ... iveArt.zip
Ta... Sonic
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Korath » 19 Dec 2015, 20:02
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Korath » 21 Dec 2015, 03:51
Having just discovered the 100% redundant, 75% incorrect, and 50% uncorrectable tumor that is get_pt_for_creature_with_variable_pt(), I'm not having anything further to do with this ball of mud. I'll post the update when the art's ready, but that's it.
And Shandalar uses Muraganda Petroglyphs and the five snow-covered basic lands, so please include those in the CardArtManalink archive if you're packaging it.
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And Shandalar uses Muraganda Petroglyphs and the five snow-covered basic lands, so please include those in the CardArtManalink archive if you're packaging it.
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Sonic » 23 Dec 2015, 22:07
OK, all done... I hope! 
And here's the card art post notes:
And here's the card art post notes:
And just in case I don't get the chance to post again this year... Merry Christmas and a happy new year from your fellow Mud Ball Juggler.Please Note: The main ‘2012_CardArtManalink’ archive has now been recompiled to include its replacement artwork from last year, and the separate 2014 card art update archives are now recompiled into a single archive with the 2012/13 releases. Please download these archives again – see links below.
CardArtUpdate_Dec2015 – http://www.mediafire.com/download/qzkt1 ... ec2015.zip
Archive includes alternative artwork for:
Accumulated Knowledge
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Avenger of Zendikar
Consume the Meek
Daybreak Coronet
Decree of Justice
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
Etched Champion
Exalted Angel
Explore
Iridescent Angel
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Mother of Runes
Pillory of the Sleepless
Primal Command
Serra Angel
Shadowmage Infiltrator
Temple of the False God
Vendilion Clique
Wrath of God
Please Note: This card art update only contains the card artwork for the December 2015 Manalink 3.0 patch.
If you are downloading Manalink 3.0 for the first time, or your currently installed ‘CardArtManalink’ folder is older than the March 2015 release, please download and install the folder and files in the following archives:
‘CardArtManalink_2012.zip’ (Main Folder / Artwork) – http://www.mediafire.com/download/nhis2 ... k_2012.zip
‘CardArtUpdates_2012_2014.zip’ (Compiled 2012-14 Card Art Updates) – http://www.mediafire.com/download/btxf2 ... 2_2014.zip
'CardArtUpdate_March2015.zip' – http://www.mediafire.com/download/37iqa ... ch2015.zip
Delete your currently installed ‘CardArtManalink’ folder and replace it with the folder in the CardArtManalink_2012 archive. Then copy the artwork from the CardArtUpdates_2012_2014, March and December archives into the newly installed ‘CardArtManalink’ folder.
Updated number of image files in the CardArtManalink folder: 15213
CardArtShandalar.zip (March 2012 release) – http://www.mediafire.com/?u6h5by3b9fbf8cf
If your current CardArtShandalar folder is older than the March 2012 release, please delete it before installing the one in the link above.
The folder for the March release contains images with corrected file names, copying the new files into an old CardArtShandalar folder will not overwrite the incorrectly named files.
Number of images image files in the CardArtShandalar folder: 1259
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Sonic » 03 Jan 2016, 17:05
Fresh off the desktop - Commander 2015 HQ card art ready for testing purposes.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/deaa3 ... ardArt.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/deaa3 ... ardArt.zip
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Korath » 07 Jan 2016, 19:09
Well, I seem to be doing my best to make you regret saying that.Sonic wrote:No problem. Send it on, and I'll return a download link for you to post.Korath wrote:Any interest in doing the same for Shandalar releases?
How big do you want chunks of these in? I'm currently at 535 non-Manalink cards in dev Shandalar, and adding maybe 50 a day.
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Sonic » 10 Jan 2016, 01:48
Just send a full list when you've made a final decision on what's going in the update. Don't worry about the numbers.
As to the canonical downloads. Here's the full current CardArtManalink folder install.
1. 'CardArtManalink_2012.zip' (Main Folder / Artwork) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/nhis2 ... k_2012.zip
2. 'CardArtUpdates_2012_2014.zip' (Compiled 2012-14 Card Art Updates) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/btxf2 ... 2_2014.zip
3. 'CardArtUpdates_2015' (Compiled 2015 Card Art Updates) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/gs02z ... s_2015.zip
And here's the current Manalink file with the 'Num Pic' column updated with current image file numbers and a full image file list for the CardArtManalink folder - http://www.mediafire.com/download/4s06j ... stored.zip
Hope it helps. As seemingly I won't be able to edit the Manalink file any more. Because as stassy has noted, and I've also found. The file is so big now Libre Calc just can't handle doing even the most basic operations on the file any longer.
As to the canonical downloads. Here's the full current CardArtManalink folder install.
1. 'CardArtManalink_2012.zip' (Main Folder / Artwork) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/nhis2 ... k_2012.zip
2. 'CardArtUpdates_2012_2014.zip' (Compiled 2012-14 Card Art Updates) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/btxf2 ... 2_2014.zip
3. 'CardArtUpdates_2015' (Compiled 2015 Card Art Updates) - http://www.mediafire.com/download/gs02z ... s_2015.zip
And here's the current Manalink file with the 'Num Pic' column updated with current image file numbers and a full image file list for the CardArtManalink folder - http://www.mediafire.com/download/4s06j ... stored.zip
Hope it helps. As seemingly I won't be able to edit the Manalink file any more. Because as stassy has noted, and I've also found. The file is so big now Libre Calc just can't handle doing even the most basic operations on the file any longer.
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by gmzombie » 11 Jan 2016, 02:09
is it possible to have a second file or ?
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Sonic » 11 Jan 2016, 13:11
A logical solution would be to strip out the expansion rarity columns from the main file, and create a new file with duplicate Card ID and Full Name columns as a way to cross reference each file.gmzombie wrote:is it possible to have a second file or ?
Although, I'm not even sure this would work. It's just the sheer amount of data that Libre needs to work on that seems to cause the problem.
Office 2003 can't handle file - and should be avoided anyway, because it corrupts the manalink files text fields when imported as a csv.
I don't have access to Office 2013, so I have no idea if the file size or corruption problem would be the same in this version of Office.
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by gmzombie » 11 Jan 2016, 13:29
Hmm.. maybe this is also a time to look at how the rarity column is imported to sealed deck and change that.
But in all seriousness it's probably just a few changes in the csv2dat file to include a second csv.
But in all seriousness it's probably just a few changes in the csv2dat file to include a second csv.can I maze of ith your snowstorm?
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by stassy » 12 Jan 2016, 05:37
Excel 2007 seems to work somewhat, but since the 2003 version there are always the 2 "attempt to read" and "not sil format" warnings.
I tried some time ago with Gnumeric to no avail, will check again the latest version if it can handle it.
I tried some time ago with Gnumeric to no avail, will check again the latest version if it can handle it.
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by stassy » 12 Jan 2016, 06:57
Ok, tried Gdoc from Google and it has the same column limitation.
The worst case seems to be to upgrade to the version above 2003, which is 2007 (?), though not sure if it's still sold anywhere...
The worst case seems to be to upgrade to the version above 2003, which is 2007 (?), though not sure if it's still sold anywhere...
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by Korath » 12 Jan 2016, 22:07
It could be split into multiple files by row, or split files combined back into a monolithic one for processing by csv2dat.exe and ct2exe, quite easily. I'm a bit hesitant to do so, because that's really just a bandaid.
Either they should be
I'd probably already have moved them to either a database or per-card split files if ct2exe.exe did what we think it does. It places some of the data in the wrong places in the card_data_t structures in Magic.exe (compared to what the column headings say), and, worse, Manalink corrects for that for at least some of the data, so any new converter would have to be bug-for-bug compatible with ct2exe. Ct2exe, insanely, was originally written in assembly, so it's very difficult to analyze. And while (so far as I can tell) csv2dat.exe does everything right, it's a good deal more complex, and also originally written in assembly, so wouldn't be any fun to reimplement either.
The inelegant path of least resistance would probably be to convert from the database or individual files into temporary csvs for the two existing converters to consume.
In the meantime, a specialized csv editor might work better than a full-fledged spreadsheet.
(And the Num Pics column doesn't need to be updated anymore as of the BFZ release, btw.)
Either they should be
- moved into a real database, which would make querying for, say, "all blue instant cards with converted mana cost 3 or less" (which is the sort of thing I have to do fairly frequently) easy, and updating very easy, but tracking changes difficult,
- or be split on one-card-per-file basis like Forge does, which makes querying slightly harder than present, but updating even easier than the database route and tracking changes trivial.
I'd probably already have moved them to either a database or per-card split files if ct2exe.exe did what we think it does. It places some of the data in the wrong places in the card_data_t structures in Magic.exe (compared to what the column headings say), and, worse, Manalink corrects for that for at least some of the data, so any new converter would have to be bug-for-bug compatible with ct2exe. Ct2exe, insanely, was originally written in assembly, so it's very difficult to analyze. And while (so far as I can tell) csv2dat.exe does everything right, it's a good deal more complex, and also originally written in assembly, so wouldn't be any fun to reimplement either.
The inelegant path of least resistance would probably be to convert from the database or individual files into temporary csvs for the two existing converters to consume.
In the meantime, a specialized csv editor might work better than a full-fledged spreadsheet.
(And the Num Pics column doesn't need to be updated anymore as of the BFZ release, btw.)
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Re: The Art of Things to Come
by gmzombie » 14 Jan 2016, 18:05
Just throwing it out there what if we went with a sort of split but instead of 1 card we do per set? If that isn't doable I vote for whatever makes it easier in the long run. )
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