Incorrect Scripts

[timmermac]

What I mean is that there's no way to get the Dragon out without having to sacrifice the mountains. Who wouldn't want a 5/5 flier for 2RR with the only drawback being having to sac a couple of Mountains?

[jeffwadsworth]

#-o What I mean is that there's no way to get the Dragon out without having to sacrifice the mountains. Who wouldn't want a 5/5 flier for 2RR with the only drawback being having to sac a couple of Mountains?

That is obvious. My concern was choice. As scripted, you have none.

[Sloth]

.Rathi Dragon. What if you do not wish to sacrifice the mountains?

We could add an "Optional" parameter to AF Sacrifice. I don't think it will be hard to code.

[timmermac]

I just tested the script as of r13864. I made a deck with 20 mountains, 4 of each Mox and 4x Rathi Dragon. If you try to play a Rathi Dragon with only one mountain in play, the mountain gets sacrificed, and since I didn't have another mountain, the dragon didn't come out. There's no option to cancel once you're at the stage where you sacrifice the mountains. Is that the part that's causing concern? If it is, I'm not sure that it's that big of a problem. I'm going to take the script and add it to the cardsfolder in the non-Eclipsed version on my computer, since I've been wanting to see this card in Forge for a long time.

[Chris H.]

I just tested the script as of r13864.

I'm going to take the script and add it to the cardsfolder in the non-Eclipsed version on my computer

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There is a Maven command that Eclipse can use to create an archive of the Forge project and this archive will be located on you /ForgeSVN/target/ folder.

There should be instructions on the getting started wiki to help explain how to set this up. I can give additional help if you need it.

I like to keep an up-to-date copy of Forge outside of my Eclipse project for playing Forge.

[friarsol]

I'm not sure why Unless Costs are trying to be pushed through with the current structure, Sloth and I have both stated that they couldn't be done at this time.

I don't really like the idea of adding an Optional parameter either. That would mean each "Cost" would need to have an optional parameter instead of just waiting for the Unless Cost work to be finished.

[Sloth]

I'm not sure why Unless Costs are trying to be pushed through with the current structure, Sloth and I have both stated that they couldn't be done at this time.

I don't really like the idea of adding an Optional parameter either. That would mean each "Cost" would need to have an optional parameter instead of just waiting for the Unless Cost work to be finished.

The current implementation of the unless cost is very complicated and i don't think i will implement it for non-mana costs any time soon. Adding the optional parameter on the other hand was really easy and the scripts work fine.

Example:

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Name:Rogue Elephant
ManaCost:G
Types:Creature Elephant
Text:no text
PT:3/3
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigSac | TriggerDescription$ When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you sacrifice a Forest.
SVar:TrigSac:AB$ Sacrifice | Cost$ 0 | Amount$ 1 | SacValid$ Forest | RememberSacrificed$ True | Optional$ True | SubAbility$ DBSacSelf
SVar:DBSacSelf:DB$ Sacrifice | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Self | SubAbility$ DBCleanup | ConditionCheckSVar$ X | ConditionSVarCompare$ LT1
SVar:DBCleanup:DB$ Cleanup | ClearRemembered$ True
SVar:X:Remembered$Amount
SVar:NeedsToPlay:Forest.YouCtrl
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/rogue_elephant.jpg
SetInfo:WTH|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/wl/81.jpg
Oracle:When Rogue Elephant enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you sacrifice a Forest.
End

Do you have any rules concerns with scripts like this sol?

[friarsol]

I guess nothing that the Cost wasn't already doing incorrectly (not unpaying Sacrifices). Can we at least mark all of these scripts going in like this so it'll be easier to find the scripts that will be simplified when eventually that work finishes?

[Sloth]

Jeff, Toshiro Umezawa is wrong. The Instant has to be cast immediately not during the rest of the turn.

[jeffwadsworth]

Jeff, Toshiro Umezawa is wrong. The Instant has to be cast immediately not during the rest of the turn.

I will revert it. Thanks.

[Sloth]

Jeff, the script of Bronze Horse prevents damage from all spells, not only from spells that target it.

[jeffwadsworth]

Jeff, the script of Bronze Horse prevents damage from all spells, not only from spells that target it.

Ahh. I thought the Target$ would be specific. Reverting.

[Sloth]

Jeff, Toshiro Umezawa is wrong. The Instant has to be cast immediately not during the rest of the turn.

I will revert it. Thanks.

I've just added Wrexial, the Risen Deep. Toshiro Umezawa is possible now.

[jeffwadsworth]

Jeff, Toshiro Umezawa is wrong. The Instant has to be cast immediately not during the rest of the turn.

I will revert it. Thanks.

I've just added Wrexial, the Risen Deep. Toshiro Umezawa is possible now.

I noticed that. Sweet!

[Sloth]

Jeff, Omen Machine has to wait. The script is correct, but there is currently no way to force the player to cast a targeted spell (canceling is always enabled). Until this is fixed, i will remove Omen Machine.

EDIT: And Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician should not give the triggers to other goblins. The triggered ability is only on Ib.

EDIT2: Omen Machine works now.