New quest decks

[Nordos]

Hm. The deck has weaknesses justas every other deck. Destroy the changelings, and you win.
Then again, it can be strong enough against 'normal' decks (for example a zombie deck, ...). With luck, you can get a quite strong creature in the 3. round. Then again, nothing may happen till the 8. round...
Oh well.

[Sloth]

Here is my take on the Call to the Kindred / Descendants' Path deck. With Leaf-Crowned Elder the number of cards that cheat creatures into play is raised to 12, but more importantly each card has some value on its own:

| Open

4 Tropical Island
7 Forest
1 Island
4 Hinterland Harbor
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Verdant Catacombs
1 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
4 Call to the Kindred
4 Descendants' Path
3 Mothdust Changeling
4 Woodland Changeling
4 Bosk Banneret
4 Leaf-Crowned Elder
2 Chameleon Colossus
2 Ghoultree
2 Oakgnarl Warrior
1 Orchard Warden
3 Timber Protector
4 Woodfall Primus

I don't think every deck needs to be as consistent as this, but building a 3-card-combo deck by adding roughly 10 pieces of each part (a lot of which do nothing on their own) will not create a satisfying match for the human player.

[Sloth]

Here are three icons of recently added opponents:

[Sloth]

And here is a pic for the upcoming Zombie deck:

[Sloth]

One more:

[Nordos]

Does Mirror Gallery work for the AI now?
Because I thought about a easy themed shrine deck.
It's actually quiet simple.
Then again I have no idea if the AI knows how to use Copy Enchantement.
I, too, noticed something while testing. The Shrine Honden of Night's Reach seems to be broken (as far as I can see, it throws an error if the enemy hasn't enough cards to discard).

Well, here's my decklist so far:

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2 Badlands
2 Bayou
2 Fabricate
4 Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 Honden of Infinite Rage
4 Honden of Life's Web
3 Honden of Night's Reach
3 Honden of Seeing Winds
3 Humility
1 Mesa Enchantress
4 Mirror Gallery
3 Plateau
2 Reliquary Tower
3 Scrubland
1 Serra's Sanctum
2 Taiga
3 Tundra
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

It has absoletely no low drops - yet again I don't want any. IMO it is OK for an easy opponent. It needs a lot of time to establish, it needs the correct mana (thats why I added so many Duallands. They are needed ...) and it is hard for the AI to play that deck (as far as I can see it).
If the AI draws the correct combinations (Honden of Infinite Rage and Humility for example...), it can be quiet strong, almost medium. If enough time is given, the deck can become quiet powerful.
Just a thought, though

[Sloth]

Does Mirror Gallery work for the AI now?
Because I thought about a easy themed shrine deck.
It's actually quiet simple.
Then again I have no idea if the AI knows how to use Copy Enchantement.
I, too, noticed something while testing. The Shrine Honden of Night's Reach seems to be broken (as far as I can see, it throws an error if the enemy hasn't enough cards to discard).

Well, here's my decklist so far:

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2 Badlands
2 Bayou
2 Fabricate
4 Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 Honden of Infinite Rage
4 Honden of Life's Web
3 Honden of Night's Reach
3 Honden of Seeing Winds
3 Humility
1 Mesa Enchantress
4 Mirror Gallery
3 Plateau
2 Reliquary Tower
3 Scrubland
1 Serra's Sanctum
2 Taiga
3 Tundra
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

It has absoletely no low drops - yet again I don't want any. IMO it is OK for an easy opponent. It needs a lot of time to establish, it needs the correct mana (thats why I added so many Duallands. They are needed ...) and it is hard for the AI to play that deck (as far as I can see it).
If the AI draws the correct combinations (Honden of Infinite Rage and Humility for example...), it can be quiet strong, almost medium. If enough time is given, the deck can become quiet powerful.
Just a thought, though

This is a good deck for an easy opponent. It has only 47 cards though and i think all our decks should be legal in at least one constructed format. Maybe some mana fixing could be added?

[Nordos]

Well, you could always raise the count of the Hondens, Humility and add some Privileged Position (even though that may be hard to play) + increasing the amount of duallands.
With these it should become a 60-card deck...

EDIT: Instead of Privileged Position, Greater Auramancy would be a lot better. You can also think about adding Argothian Enchantress since the deck has 0 2-drops as it is.

EDIT2 :

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4 Argothian Enchantress
3 Badlands
3 Bayou
2 Fabricate
2 Greater Auramancy
4 Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 Honden of Infinite Rage
4 Honden of Life's Web
4 Honden of Night's Reach
4 Honden of Seeing Winds
3 Humility
4 Mirror Gallery
3 Plateau
2 Reliquary Tower
4 Scrubland
1 Serra's Sanctum
4 Taiga
4 Tundra
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

[Nordos]

Here's another deck I thought off. I actually don't know how to improve it anymore :-/ It SHOULD actually work, yet it doesn't seem to be as strong as expected.
It isn't helpful at all that the AI doesn't know how to use it's cards. If it has a Typhoid Rats with Scythe of the Wretched, Nemesis Mask and Inquisitor´s Flail, he wouldn't even think about attacking. Since the whole deck is based upon the concept of attacking the enemy and killing/reviving his creatures, the deck is completely useless for the AI.
Well, anyway, here's the deck. Maybe you can think of a way to 'enable' it for the AI

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4 Bayou
2 Deadly Recluse
4 Inquisitor's Flail
4 Nemesis Mask
1 Pariah's Shield
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
4 Scythe of the Wretched
2 Swamp
1 Tainted Wood
2 Thornweald Archer
3 Typhoid Rats
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Woodland Cemetery

[Sloth]

Well, you could always raise the count of the Hondens, Humility and add some Privileged Position (even though that may be hard to play) + increasing the amount of duallands.
With these it should become a 60-card deck...

EDIT: Instead of Privileged Position, Greater Auramancy would be a lot better. You can also think about adding Argothian Enchantress since the deck has 0 2-drops as it is.

EDIT2 :

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4 Argothian Enchantress
3 Badlands
3 Bayou
2 Fabricate
2 Greater Auramancy
4 Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 Honden of Infinite Rage
4 Honden of Life's Web
4 Honden of Night's Reach
4 Honden of Seeing Winds
3 Humility
4 Mirror Gallery
3 Plateau
2 Reliquary Tower
4 Scrubland
1 Serra's Sanctum
4 Taiga
4 Tundra
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

I will add it with a changed mana base. Some users play with ante and will shamelessly plunder the duals.

My rule of thumb is: No moxen and other power until hard and no duals in easy decks (unless they are vital to the strategy).

| Open

1 Plains
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Forest
4 Terramorphic Expanse
2 Vivid Crag
2 Vivid Creek
2 Vivid Grove
2 Vivid Marsh
2 Vivid Meadow
2 Tendo Ice Bridge
2 Reliquary Tower
1 Serra's Sanctum
1 Manalith
4 Argothian Enchantress
2 Fabricate
2 Greater Auramancy
4 Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 Honden of Infinite Rage
4 Honden of Life's Web
4 Honden of Night's Reach
4 Honden of Seeing Winds
3 Humility
4 Mirror Gallery

Do you want to name the opponent?

[Nordos]

Well, I didn't thought about that, but you're right. You could get the Duals far too easy.
A name for the deck... Hm. I wouldn't know one, yet since it is related to the japanese mythology (with the Hondens) and since it is connected to the religion - how about shinshoku (translated shrine-priest, AFAIK)?

[Sloth]

Well, I didn't thought about that, but you're right. You could get the Duals far too easy.
A name for the deck... Hm. I wouldn't know one, yet since it is related to the japanese mythology (with the Hondens) and since it is connected to the religion - how about shinshoku (translated shrine-priest, AFAIK)?

We need to find a good avatar picture (they help people remember decks they play against). Maybe some japanese manga hero with a similar setting - InuYasha?

[friarsol]

Well, I didn't thought about that, but you're right. You could get the Duals far too easy.
A name for the deck... Hm. I wouldn't know one, yet since it is related to the japanese mythology (with the Hondens) and since it is connected to the religion - how about shinshoku (translated shrine-priest, AFAIK)?

We need to find a good avatar picture (they help people remember decks they play against). Maybe some japanese manga hero with a similar setting - InuYasha?

Maybe Aang from Avatar the Last Airbender?

[Nordos]

I wouldn't think that Aang fits. The pictures of the Hondens are all quiet dark and sinister - while the world in which Aang lives is more ... light. And populated. Not like these abandoned shrines...
I don't know what you could take, though.

[Sloth]

Here's another deck I thought off. I actually don't know how to improve it anymore :-/ It SHOULD actually work, yet it doesn't seem to be as strong as expected.
It isn't helpful at all that the AI doesn't know how to use it's cards. If it has a Typhoid Rats with Scythe of the Wretched, Nemesis Mask and Inquisitor´s Flail, he wouldn't even think about attacking. Since the whole deck is based upon the concept of attacking the enemy and killing/reviving his creatures, the deck is completely useless for the AI.
Well, anyway, here's the deck. Maybe you can think of a way to 'enable' it for the AI

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4 Bayou
2 Deadly Recluse
4 Inquisitor's Flail
4 Nemesis Mask
1 Pariah's Shield
4 Phyrexian Obliterator
4 Scythe of the Wretched
2 Swamp
1 Tainted Wood
2 Thornweald Archer
3 Typhoid Rats
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Woodland Cemetery

I think we have a deck that uses deathtouch creatures with Hermetic Study. Maybe this deck could make use of Scythe of the Wretched.

Here is a new creation of mine - a medium cycling deck:

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5 Mountain|ONS
5 Forest|ONS
4 Rootbound Crag
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Smoldering Crater
1 Slippery Karst
4 Blasted Landscape
4 Lightning Rift
4 Fluctuator
4 Spark Spray
1 Chartooth Cougar
1 Fiery Fall
3 Hundroog
3 Jungle Weaver
3 Krosan Tusker
3 Macetail Hystrodon
3 Ridge Rannet
2 Slice and Dice
1 Sylvan Bounty
2 Valley Rannet
3 Wirewood Guardian

The AI still doesn't play this deck very well, but the interactions still deliver something.