Quest decks revamp
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Chris H. » 15 May 2011, 16:50
`Sloth wrote:Looks medium to me. I really feel like adding Uktabi Kong. Maybe we can have the reasonable Un-Cards as AI only cards (with no rarity or set info attached)?
Uktabi Kong or something similar would be awesome, but I doubt that everyone would want to see the Un-Cards added to forge.
I will add this deck as Tarzan 2 and I will give it a good tone down and get back with a tier 1 variant.
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Chris H. » 15 May 2011, 21:55
OK, I weakened the new Tarzan 2 deck and here is a possible Tarzan 1 deck. There are about 4 less apes and there are a number of one shot type spells.
The deck looks somewhat unfocused but it still is for the most part an ape tribal deck.
The deck looks somewhat unfocused but it still is for the most part an ape tribal deck.
- Tarzan 1 | Open
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 07:47
Looks fair. It's no pushover though.Chris H. wrote:OK, I weakened the new Tarzan 2 deck and here is a possible Tarzan 1 deck. There are about 4 less apes and there are a number of one shot type spells.
The deck looks somewhat unfocused but it still is for the most part an ape tribal deck.
- Tarzan 1 | Open
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 08:40
Another deck I want to change is Han Solo 3 (WG enchantments deck with Sigil of the Empty Throne) which has the same theme as Endora 3 but is less focused. My proposal is to make it an WU Enchanted Evening deck. Any objections or suggestions?
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Chris H. » 16 May 2011, 10:52
`Sloth wrote:Another deck I want to change is Han Solo 3 (WG enchantments deck with Sigil of the Empty Throne) which has the same theme as Endora 3 but is less focused. My proposal is to make it an WU Enchanted Evening deck. Any objections or suggestions?
I think that Gando made one of those decks and I made the other. Back in those days we did not have a lot of cards to choose from.
Here is a list of cards to consider for the WU Enchanted Evening deck:
- possible candidates | Open
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Corwin72 » 16 May 2011, 15:36
Hey, Remember when we added Soulless One to Buffy 2?
Soulless One is not in forge. I knew that there was a reason that I did not include it the first time.
That may be a hard one to add because it counts both Zombies in play and in the graveyard.
If it can not be added should that be replaced with Grave Defiler?
Soulless One is not in forge. I knew that there was a reason that I did not include it the first time.
That may be a hard one to add because it counts both Zombies in play and in the graveyard.
If it can not be added should that be replaced with Grave Defiler?
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 16:01
Finished (and your list was quite helpful).Chris H. wrote:`Sloth wrote:Another deck I want to change is Han Solo 3 (WG enchantments deck with Sigil of the Empty Throne) which has the same theme as Endora 3 but is less focused. My proposal is to make it an WU Enchanted Evening deck. Any objections or suggestions?
I think that Gando made one of those decks and I made the other. Back in those days we did not have a lot of cards to choose from.
Here is a list of cards to consider for the WU Enchanted Evening deck:
- possible candidates | Open
Who would suggest a card that is not in forge?Corwin72 wrote:Hey, Remember when we added Soulless One to Buffy 2?
Soulless One is not in forge. I knew that there was a reason that I did not include it the first time.
That may be a hard one to add because it counts both Zombies in play and in the graveyard.
If it can not be added should that be replaced with Grave Defiler?
I will fix it.
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 16:44
James Bond 1-3 could have a more focused Sliver theme, now that we have almost all of them. Anyone willing to update them?
I will try to update King Edward (Elementals).
I will try to update King Edward (Elementals).
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by timmermac » 16 May 2011, 18:22
I'll take a crack at it... I love Slivers. I've got an idea that doesn't include a huge amount of cards.Sloth wrote:James Bond 1-3 could have a more focused Sliver theme, now that we have almost all of them. Anyone willing to update them?
I will try to update King Edward (Elementals).
Edit: The trick is keeping it at 60 cards... I have an easy version, but the trick is figuring out what to substitute in and out for medium and hard versions. I know Sliver Legion will be involved in hard. Shadow Sliver and Shifting Sliver made it into medium and hard
- James Bond Easy attempt 1 | Open
- James Bond Medium attempt 1 | Open
- James Bond Hard attempt 1 | Open
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 18:46
Since Cyclops covers all colors. Try to pick only two or three.timmermac wrote:I'll take a crack at it... I love Slivers. I've got an idea that doesn't include a huge amount of cards.Sloth wrote:James Bond 1-3 could have a more focused Sliver theme, now that we have almost all of them. Anyone willing to update them?
I will try to update King Edward (Elementals).
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by timmermac » 16 May 2011, 19:04
OK.... Here are the latest attempts.Sloth wrote:Since Cyclops covers all colors. Try to pick only two or three.timmermac wrote:I'll take a crack at it... I love Slivers. I've got an idea that doesn't include a huge amount of cards.Sloth wrote:James Bond 1-3 could have a more focused Sliver theme, now that we have almost all of them. Anyone willing to update them?
I will try to update King Edward (Elementals).
- James Bond Easy attempt 2 | Open
- James Bond Medium attempt 2 | Open
- James Bond Hard attempt 4 | Open
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 16 May 2011, 19:38
My plan was to stick to the colors of James Bond 1-3 to have a tight mana base. At least not all colors should be used to distinguish it from Cyclops 2 and 3.
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by timmermac » 16 May 2011, 20:53
D'oh... I've been trying to keep it to three colors, but the Essence Sliver kind of snuck in. I wanted the Legion in the Hard version as a bomb. I was thinking RUG, mainly for Heart Sliver, though I could be persuaded to change it to WUG. I'm thinking of the following changes:
Easy:
Mnemonic Sliver for Heart Sliver
Victual Sliver for Spined Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Plated Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Medium:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Synchronus Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Hard:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver.
Easy & Medium
Tundra for Arcane Sanctum
Savannah for Jungle Shrine
Hallowed Fountain for Crumbling Necropolis
Temple Garden for Savage Lands
Easy:
Mnemonic Sliver for Heart Sliver
Victual Sliver for Spined Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Plated Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Medium:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Synchronus Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Hard:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver.
Easy & Medium
Tundra for Arcane Sanctum
Savannah for Jungle Shrine
Hallowed Fountain for Crumbling Necropolis
Temple Garden for Savage Lands
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Sloth » 17 May 2011, 05:28
I would say WUG (or WRG) could be more powerful, because multiple copies of Sinew Sliver, Plated Sliver, Sidewinder Sliver and Muscle Sliver are not redundant.timmermac wrote:D'oh... I've been trying to keep it to three colors, but the Essence Sliver kind of snuck in. I wanted the Legion in the Hard version as a bomb. I was thinking RUG, mainly for Heart Sliver, though I could be persuaded to change it to WUG. I'm thinking of the following changes:
Easy:
Mnemonic Sliver for Heart Sliver
Victual Sliver for Spined Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Plated Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Medium:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver
Synchronus Sliver for Darksteel Ingot
Hard:
Sinew Sliver for Heart Sliver
Talon Sliver for Fury Sliver.
Easy & Medium
Tundra for Arcane Sanctum
Savannah for Jungle Shrine
Hallowed Fountain for Crumbling Necropolis
Temple Garden for Savage Lands
- Try to reduce the number of copies of slivers without stacking abilities.
- Shadow Sliver is not good enough in the hands of the AI for a hard deck.
- A Fetch/Dual landbase would make the hard deck faster and more consistent.
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Re: Quest decks revamp
by Corwin72 » 17 May 2011, 12:27
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