Green White Slivers

[GandoTheBard]

Perhaps not the Best version of this deck but here it is:

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60 Total Cards

32 Creatures
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4x Avian Changeling
4x Essence Sliver
4x Might Sliver
4x Muscle Sliver
4x Reflex Sliver
4x Sidewinder Sliver
4x Sinew Sliver
4x Thornling

6 Spells
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1x Mox Emerald
1x Mox Pearl
4x Swords to Plowshares

22 Land
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4x Elfhame Palace
3x Forest
3x Plains
4x Savannah
4x Seaside Citadel
4x Temple Garden


Another very simple deck to play...Lay lands, aggro slivers. Stronger varients might also have Wrath of God and Armageddon to provide some answers to control decks. Such decks would need a bit different mana structure too...maybe diamonds etc.

[GandoTheBard]

Please note that while the thornling isnt really a changeling it is treated as such by Forge because it is a shapeshifter so enjoy

[DennisBergkamp]

Wait, so will the Thornling actually get pumped by for example Might Sliver in MTGForge ?

[GandoTheBard]

Wait, so will the Thornling actually get pumped by for example Might Sliver in MTGForge ?

Yes indeed. It gets pumped by all the slivers. Isn't that nice? lol...It is still great even if that didn't happen so maybe we should fix it eh?

[Mr.Chaos]

Nice sliverdeck Gando.
I also have a green white sliver deck but it takes a different approach:

60 Total Cards

30 Creatures
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4x Essence Sliver
4x Gemhide Sliver
4x Horned Sliver
4x Might Sliver
4x Muscle Sliver
4x Sinew Sliver
2x Sliver Legion
2x Sliver Overlord
2x Winged Sliver

8 Spells
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4x Defense of the Heart
4x Eladamri's Call

22 Land
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8x Forest
6x Plains
4x Savannah
4x Temple Garden

Pretty much a no-brainer.
Pump 'em up, use the Heart to bring out the big boys and... Sayonara señor.
Technically, this is not GW but you use green cards to bring the 5 color cards into play.
The overlord actually is rarely used/needed but it is nice to have him just in case. Same is true for the Winged Sliver. You can do without it.
So I could see Naturalize or Kodama's Reach make it in there instead of the flyer and the overlord.

Sorry, no attaching the deck as I have reached my attachment limit.
This is actually a reason for me not to post many new decks as I prefer to post decks as downloadable content.

[GandoTheBard]

Ive got the same attachment limit you do...I just erased the ones that werent being used.

[DennisBergkamp]

Yes indeed. It gets pumped by all the slivers. Isn't that nice? lol...It is still great even if that didn't happen so maybe we should fix it eh?

Wow I had no idea... I've never seen any of the code that does this either. So correct me if I'm wrong, if I would change this to happen to creatures of the type "Changeling" instead, it would be correct, right?

[GandoTheBard]

Yeah I guess...though the card gives it a keyword instead...

[DennisBergkamp]

Ah yes, the keyword Changeling I'll see if I can find the logic for the whole Shapeshifter type thing...

[DennisBergkamp]

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public CardList getType(String cardType)
    {
   CardList c = new CardList();
        Card card;
   for(int i = 0; i < size(); i++)
   {
          card = getCard(i);
       if(card.getType().contains(cardType) ||
               (cardType.equals("Sliver") &&  card.isCreature() && card.getType().contains("Shapeshifter"))
              )//changleings, see Lorwyn FAQ
      c.add(getCard(i));
   }
   return c;
    }//getType()

So sadly no, Shapeshifters will only be affected by Slivers...
Then again I guess I could just always add the card to the CardList to be returned in getType() if the card in question is a creature and if it has the changeling keyword...
But would this solve all of our problems? I'm not sure.

[DennisBergkamp]

It seems to work when I change this code to look at the changeling keyword:

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 public CardList getType(String cardType)
    {
   CardList c = new CardList();
        Card card;
   for(int i = 0; i < size(); i++)
   {
          card = getCard(i);
       if(card.getType().contains(cardType) ||
               /*(cardType.equals("Sliver") &&  card.isCreature() && card.getType().contains("Shapeshifter")*/
             ( card.isCreature() && !cardType.equals("Legendary") && !cardType.equals("Planeswalker") && card.getKeyword().contains("Changeling") ) )//changelings, see Lorwyn FAQ
      c.add(getCard(i));
   }
   return c;
    }//getType()

Having 2x Plated Sliver and an Eladamri, Lord of Leaves in play, I see my Avian Changeling turn into a 2/4 with Flying, Changeling,Shroud and Forestwalk
I will test this some more with some other cards, but it looks like this should do the trick... in which case I'll add Changeling as a keyword to the next release!

If I would go with this change it would of course mean the Thornling won't get boosts anymore from slivers.

[Chris H.]

I will test this some more with some other cards, but it looks like this should do the trick... in which case I'll add Changeling as a keyword to the next release!

If I would go with this change it would of course mean the Thornling won't get boosts anymore from slivers.

I seem to remember that there are several cards in forge that would use the Changeling keyword, and a number of cards that could be added. I think that the Thornling failing to get the buffs anymore is worth the price.

[DennisBergkamp]

Yes, I agree. However, it turns out to be a little bit trickier... for instance currently Blinkmoth Nexus wouldn't be able to pump a creature with Changeling, and to give another example, when playing a creature with Changeling Gilt-Leaf Archdruid will not trigger a draw (I think you might still be able to steal lands though).