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Age of Dodekatheon - UPDATED 01/09/2014 DXT1 (183 cards)
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/08/2013 (107 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 10 Nov 2013, 12:59
Hi xxd34thx, thanks for your feedback, i would answer to you, i have checked the mentioned cards.xxd34thx wrote:well I tested the deck and the card I cant think of its name off the top of my head but the card that gives x of whatever mana when I use it my game crashes I have tried with and without black lotis, mox jet, swamps, and chrome mox for test. Am I doing something wrong? I really like the art work and also portal of the gods wont actiave after I pay 8 for it thanks have a good day.
1. About the land if you are talking about the Tample of Athena :
This land works for me without any problem. It produces mana of colours land's opponent control can produce.
X is equal to the difference between opponent's number of lands and your number of lands.
In game scenario 1, opponent 1 swamp, you have land of Athena,
it could produce black mana: but the difference is 0
In game scenario 2, opponent 1 swamp and 1 island, you have land of Athena,
it could produce black and blue mana: the difference is 1
2.Portal of gods need 1 important condition to be activated you must have less than 3 point of life
So please let me know which Mods you have installed, because i think there are some missing functions, or something similar to make you issue with the land. (I have installed, Riiak's mana mod and core fixes, Thefiremind mods, BloodReyvyns Mods and S62 mod)
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/08/2013 (107 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 10 Nov 2013, 13:03
Thanks for your interest i have sent to you the link by PM. Please let me know what you think about it, and also if you have any suggetions, or if you find any issue.NVRSRRNDR wrote:Life drops sounds good and the
card graphics are looking really clean
and i am really interessted to test them
would be nice if u could send me an DL link
thx in advance
keep up the good work
regards Mario
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/08/2013 (107 cards)
by CarpeDiem » 10 Nov 2013, 13:45
Hello again and good luck for your incredible work!
I've done all the french translations of your cards except Hades & Poséidon (My EditiX program can't save them).
Have a nice day! (or evening...)
I've done all the french translations of your cards except Hades & Poséidon (My EditiX program can't save them).
Have a nice day! (or evening...)
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/08/2013 (107 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 10 Nov 2013, 15:27
Hi my dear friend, i am glad you are supporting my work, unfortunately is not so easy to use your translations, because it seems you worked not on the latest update, so there are some cards (old version) with some working bugs, now i have to double check exactly which cards are changed, for example HERAION land had a working bug i have resolved it inside latest version, the multistate land have some missing code who generate scriptlog,...so now i am not so sure exactly which cards are the same and which are changed.CarpeDiem wrote:Hello again and good luck for your incredible work!
I've done all the french translations of your cards except Hades & Poséidon (My EditiX program can't save them).
Have a nice day! (or evening...)
Anyway i don't want to lose your help, i like to take care also about the french version. So i will copy the translation you made one by one, in these days trying to copy only the text parts. So please be patient if for some updates you still not see your language correctly translated.
If you can translated the latest cards when i make an update it will be easy to insert few cards each time!
Thanks a lot and keep in touch.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 12 Nov 2013, 02:01
Riiak my dear friend,
I have to ask you a favor, i have made an Hydra Creature for my set, it is similar to your concept of Protean Hydra, but there are some differences.
I tried to replicate the myth of the Lernaean Hydra, it says this Hydra has a main head indestructible.
About the other heads as many hydra if you cut one head and don't burn the wound it grows back 2 heads.
So my idea to implement something near to this concept is:
First of all i have used internal states to manage the hydra status so there is no interference with counters.
I made this choice also to make this Hydra different from the other ones.
Creature type Hydra 1/1
Casting cost with
to add the initial power up.
If the Creature is not boosted it has indestructible.
Prevent any damage would be dealt to the hydra, update the internal state of power up with X -1/-1.Where X is the damage received. If hydra is not boosted no damage is dealt.
Now inside my set i am using some additional abilities who are active only if something happen.
The additional ability of hydra do this :
At end of the turn if the additional ability is enabled : power up the hydra with X +1/+1 where X is the double of the -1/-1 received this turn.
Here you can find the code:
Could you let me know what you think about it? Do you see something to change,
or something i have not considered?? Thanks in advance.
I have to ask you a favor, i have made an Hydra Creature for my set, it is similar to your concept of Protean Hydra, but there are some differences.
I tried to replicate the myth of the Lernaean Hydra, it says this Hydra has a main head indestructible.
About the other heads as many hydra if you cut one head and don't burn the wound it grows back 2 heads.
So my idea to implement something near to this concept is:
First of all i have used internal states to manage the hydra status so there is no interference with counters.
I made this choice also to make this Hydra different from the other ones.
Creature type Hydra 1/1
Casting cost with
to add the initial power up.If the Creature is not boosted it has indestructible.
Prevent any damage would be dealt to the hydra, update the internal state of power up with X -1/-1.Where X is the damage received. If hydra is not boosted no damage is dealt.
Now inside my set i am using some additional abilities who are active only if something happen.
The additional ability of hydra do this :
At end of the turn if the additional ability is enabled : power up the hydra with X +1/+1 where X is the double of the -1/-1 received this turn.
Here you can find the code:
- Lernaean Hydra | Open
Could you let me know what you think about it? Do you see something to change,
or something i have not considered?? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by RiiakShiNal » 12 Nov 2013, 03:36
Technically, I did not code Protean Hydra it is an official card (though I did provide a fix for it, which was pointed out by sumomole).
That said here are a couple of things I would probably change:
That said here are a couple of things I would probably change:
- With your "Dew Drop" ability I'm not sure there is any way to determine which player tapped a card (I don't know if TriggerPlayer() or SecondaryPlayer() information is given for the BECAME_TAPPED trigger). So you may need to either re-word or re-work the ability. Example Player A has Lernaean Hydra and Player B has Icy Manipulator, according to the way you have worded the ability if Player B uses the Icy Manipulator to tap the Lernaean Hydra, "Dew Drop" should not activate, but the way you have it coded it will.
- "Dew Drop" TRIGGERED_ABILITY you have put the creature check in the INTERVENING_IF, but that check only really needs to be performed when checking the TRIGGER not at resolution time. The INTERVENING_IF should remain due to the check for "while its additional ability is inactive". But this is a personal choice and should not really matter in this case.
- In your Indestructible STATIC_ABILITY the ClearFilter() line is pointless.
- The way your additional ability is worded it should not have an INTERVENING_IF block as the ability would activate at the end of turn even if no damage was received. There is no "if" in the ability so there definitely should not be an INTERVENING_IF block. Personally I would code the ability as a resource (since it should not always be enabled).
- Personally, I think +1/+1 counters would be easier for players to understand and work with (Proliferate could be used to increase counters, but can't touch internal values) rather than some unknown internal value, though ultimately that is your choice. As is if cast with = 0 then it will never increase the bonus even though +1/+1 counters could be added with other effects. For example throw in some elves and an Immaculate Magistrate and you could easily have a 20+/20+ indestructible hydra with the way it is currently coded. If you switch to +1/+1 counters then regardless of how the counters get on the hydra's abilities will be considered.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by CarpeDiem » 12 Nov 2013, 04:41
Hi NeoAnderson! I'm so sorry that my translations don't work well.
I will translate your new cards if you give me your new magical link...
Good day to you!
I will translate your new cards if you give me your new magical link...
Good day to you!
Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 12 Nov 2013, 05:39
Don't be sorry my friend you work is really appreciated, is also my fault because i don't speak French, anyway i sent to you the link. We will discuss how and when translate all the cards 
Have a nice day too.
Have a nice day too.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 12 Nov 2013, 06:47
Thanks as always for your kindness,RiiakShiNal wrote:Technically, I did not code Protean Hydra it is an official card (though I did provide a fix for it, which was pointed out by sumomole).
That said here are a couple of things I would probably change:
- With your "Dew Drop" ability I'm not sure there is any way to determine which player tapped a card (I don't know if TriggerPlayer() or SecondaryPlayer() information is given for the BECAME_TAPPED trigger). So you may need to either re-word or re-work the ability. Example Player A has Lernaean Hydra and Player B has Icy Manipulator, according to the way you have worded the ability if Player B uses the Icy Manipulator to tap the Lernaean Hydra, "Dew Drop" should not activate, but the way you have it coded it will.
- "Dew Drop" TRIGGERED_ABILITY you have put the creature check in the INTERVENING_IF, but that check only really needs to be performed when checking the TRIGGER not at resolution time. The INTERVENING_IF should remain due to the check for "while its additional ability is inactive". But this is a personal choice and should not really matter in this case.
- In your Indestructible STATIC_ABILITY the ClearFilter() line is pointless.
- The way your additional ability is worded it should not have an INTERVENING_IF block as the ability would activate at the end of turn even if no damage was received. There is no "if" in the ability so there definitely should not be an INTERVENING_IF block. Personally I would code the ability as a resource (since it should not always be enabled).
- Personally, I think +1/+1 counters would be easier for players to understand and work with (Proliferate could be used to increase counters, but can't touch internal values) rather than some unknown internal value, though ultimately that is your choice. As is if cast with
I checked some of your points:
1. The ability works also if is another player Tap my creature. I have used an ability to Tap a creature controlled by AI with Dew Drop and it becomes enabled. So you're right i have to change the TEXT description to "Whenever a creature becomes tapped." also because i tried to use :
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<TRIGGER value="BECAME_TAPPED" simple_qualifier="objectyoucontrol" >
return TriggerPlayer() == EffectController() and TriggerObject():GetCardType():Test(CARD_TYPE_CREATURE)
</TRIGGER>
Whenever a creature you control becomes tapped while the additional ability of a creature with the "dewdrop" is inactive, this additional ability becomes active. The additional ability remains active until it is used.
2. I have moved the Creature check into trigger evaluation. Thanks.
3. Clear Filter removed is just a miss while copying and pasting my eyes sometimes miss something
4. About the Additional ability i am not sure to have understand your meaning. I added also the intervening if block just to avoid the trigger when abilility is not enabled and there is no damage received. I understand is not needed but is just to avoid some triggering.
5. I know exaclty which are the advantages to use counters, i also used into other cards, i was just following an idea and trying to implement it in this way.
6. About the indestructible condition
I have an important question :
If i would check the actual power of a creature into a static ability how i have to implement the code?
I try to exaplain i was making a condition to check the actual power of Hydra to avoid to gives Indestructible ability when the power is more than 1.
i have used the function EffectSource():GetCurrentCharacteristics():Power_Get() but it always return 1, also if another card is boosting the Hydra.
If i use this function into a resolution block in an Activated ability it works.
So the problem is how to make a continuos check into a static ability?
I also tried to use Filters with filter:Add( FE_CARD_INSTANCE, OP_IS, EffectSource() ) filter:Add(FE_TOUGHNESS, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1) filter:Add(FE_POWER, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1) to apply the Indestructible ability but it doesn't works.
EXAMPLE 1 : The Hydra still have indestructible also if there is another creature who gives +1/+1 to the hydra.
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<STATIC_ABILITY linked_ability_group="1">
<FILTER filter_id="0" >
local filter = ClearFilter()
filter:Add( FE_CARD_INSTANCE, OP_IS, EffectSource() )
filter:Add(FE_TOUGHNESS, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1)
filter:Add(FE_POWER, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1)
</FILTER>
<CONTINUOUS_ACTION layer="6" filter_id="0">
local oPow_Tough = LinkedDC():Int_Get( 10 )
if FilteredCard() ~= nil then
local characteristics = FilteredCard():GetCurrentCharacteristics()
if (oPow_Tough == 0) then
characteristics:Bool_Set( CHARACTERISTIC_INDESTRUCTIBLE, 1 )
end
end
</CONTINUOUS_ACTION>
</STATIC_ABILITY>
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<STATIC_ABILITY linked_ability_group="1">
<CONTINUOUS_ACTION layer="6">
local oPow_Tough = LinkedDC():Int_Get( 10 )
if EffectSource() ~= nil then
local power = EffectSource():GetCurrentCharacteristics():Power_Get()
local toughness = EffectSource():GetCurrentCharacteristics():Toughness_Get()
if (oPow_Tough == 0) and (power == 1) and (toughness == 1) then
EffectSource():GetCurrentCharacteristics():Bool_Set( CHARACTERISTIC_INDESTRUCTIBLE, 1 )
end
end
</CONTINUOUS_ACTION>
</STATIC_ABILITY>
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by RiiakShiNal » 12 Nov 2013, 15:06
Obviously I did not explain it properly. You have the additional ability worded like this:NeoAnderson wrote:4. About the Additional ability i am not sure to have understand your meaning. I added also the intervening if block just to avoid the trigger when abilility is not enabled and there is no damage received. I understand is not needed but is just to avoid some triggering.
This combined with your rules for "Dew Drop" means that if you tap the hydra for mana this ability should become active (due to "Dew Drop") and that end of turn even if no damage was done to the hydra this ability should activate and then become inactive (essentially doing nothing). The reason for this is in the ability text you have no if conditions so putting in the INTERVENING_IF the way you have it is wrong. If you want the ability to only trigger only if the ability is active AND damage is done to the hydra that turn then you need to reword your ability to state that it only triggers if damage is dealt to the hydra this turn otherwise you need to change the way you have the ability coded such that the scenario I described where the ability essentially triggers but does nothing actually happens. If you do neither then your card will be considered bugged compared to the rules of Magic.
Ultimately, you can't make this work properly with final P/T checks as it would take a minimum of 2 passes through state-based effects to work (which does not always occur before other effects process). The reason is variable P/T modifications take place on layer 7C which means for the check to work it would need to be done on layer 8, but the Indestructible characteristic needs to be added on layer 6 before any P/T changes, sets, or modifications are done (as per the rules of magic). Due to this there would always be a 1 state check lag between the conditions being met or lost and the actual change of the whether the card has Indestructible (which is wrong). It works with counters because counters are present on the card at all times even before their P/T management effects are processed as part of state-based effects so they can be checked on Layer 6, while final P/T can't be checked on any layer lower than 8. If you try to add the indestructible characteristic on level 8 then there would be incorrect interactions with cards like Turn to Frog which due to LoseAllAbilities() should remove Indestructible, but if it's added on layer 8 then LoseAllAbilities() won't affect it (which is wrong).NeoAnderson wrote:6. About the indestructible condition
I have an important question :
If i would check the actual power of a creature into a static ability how i have to implement the code?
I try to exaplain i was making a condition to check the actual power of Hydra to avoid to gives Indestructible ability when the power is more than 1.
i have used the function EffectSource():GetCurrentCharacteristics():Power_Get() but it always return 1, also if another card is boosting the Hydra.
If i use this function into a resolution block in an Activated ability it works.
So the problem is how to make a continuos check into a static ability?
I also tried to use Filters with filter:Add( FE_CARD_INSTANCE, OP_IS, EffectSource() ) filter:Add(FE_TOUGHNESS, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1) filter:Add(FE_POWER, OP_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL_TO, 1) to apply the Indestructible ability but it doesn't works.
The reason the check works in RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION blocks (should also work in PLAY_TIME_ACTION blocks) is that those use the information from the last pass of state-based actions (meaning layers 0-8 have all be run through before these blocks are processed). CONTINUOUS_ACTION blocks are processed based on their layers with lower layers being processed before higher layers. Think of things like a priority queue (lower layer equals higher priority) all the blocks get queued up and the highest priority blocks are processed first until no blocks remain to be processed.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by Jesufa » 12 Nov 2013, 15:08
Looks very interesting, waiting for a new updated link. PM me 
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 12 Nov 2013, 16:00
Thanks for you interest @Jesufa, please give me some minutes because i am finish some modify i would give you the latest version.
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by CarpeDiem » 12 Nov 2013, 18:32
Thanks, my friend, for your latest update.
Dew drop seems a good ability for green and whaou! your amazons will surely be loved by players!!!
Just a few things:
-Is it normal that your white tokens (justice soldier and olympian eagle) are in the deck?
-It would be great that you continue to include the fabulous land Arcadia
(it helps to test the cards if you don't want to play the moxes).
-I will translate the newest cards (the green ones) as soon as possible...
Have a nice day!
Dew drop seems a good ability for green and whaou! your amazons will surely be loved by players!!!
Just a few things:
-Is it normal that your white tokens (justice soldier and olympian eagle) are in the deck?
-It would be great that you continue to include the fabulous land Arcadia
(it helps to test the cards if you don't want to play the moxes).
-I will translate the newest cards (the green ones) as soon as possible...
Have a nice day!
Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by NeoAnderson » 12 Nov 2013, 20:22
Hi my friend,
I'm glad to see you like my last cards.
About your questions i would answer as the follow :
The test deck is not so important for me for this reason i remove some cards just to test the new ones...also because when the set will be finished i want to make some themed deck with different strategies.
You can make your own test deck with Riaak Deck builder is simple.
For the same reason the tokens where there just to check if there are any kind of problems, so only for test reasons!
Anyway you can download the deck with Arcadia and no tokens here :
Have a nice day too.
I'm glad to see you like my last cards.
About your questions i would answer as the follow :
The test deck is not so important for me for this reason i remove some cards just to test the new ones...also because when the set will be finished i want to make some themed deck with different strategies.
You can make your own test deck with Riaak Deck builder is simple.
For the same reason the tokens where there just to check if there are any kind of problems, so only for test reasons!
Anyway you can download the deck with Arcadia and no tokens here :
- Deck with Arcadia.rar
- Removed tokens and added Arcadia Land
- (497.12 KiB) Downloaded 381 times
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Re: Age of Dodekatheon - NEW UPDATED 11/12/2013 (127 cards)
by mdekock » 13 Nov 2013, 06:59
I love playing with your decks and would like to install the update...
Thanks for all your hard work!
Thanks for all your hard work!
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