Bug hunters topic

[stassy]

Ok so wait-listed, non-fixed/non-answered confirmed reports shall remain in the root section.

After a new patch, non-fixed/non-answered confirmed reports from previous patches shall also remain in the root section, we can consider them as checked but not answered yet (so no need to bump them anymore, that's cool from the dev because that mean no more ninja fix )

Time to unearth those from the Archives too, we might maybe get some of them fixed in the process...

[BAgate]

Cool. So Aswan Jaguar, what is the deal with the fixed bug archive in the root folder? If everything is to stay in the archived folder, what is the purpose of the fixed bug archive thread?

Similarly the unfixable thread. Do you want unfixable bugs to go there or to the archived reports?

Sorry to be a pest, I'm just trying to get a firm understanding of where everything should go.

[BAgate]

Per Korath's request, all threads that were not fixed or otherwise resolved have been moved from archived reports to the root folder. I'll go through them to see their present status over time, but now at least they are all in one place.

Most were from pages 11-13, but some were as early as page 2, so any page references are probably shot to hell. Sorry about that.

[Aswan jaguar]

The fixed bug archive & the [Not Solved] + [Unfixable] Bug Archive & the [Old confirmed] Bug Archive are there now only as archives to search from (which is difficult to their structure) and it would be loss of info to delete them so we leave them as they are.
Their purpose now is obsolete they served us for 3 years but now can only be used to archive as I said "not a bug" cases if we don't want to delete them (I delete not bugs or unconfirmed bugs that I have POSTED)as they are just cluttering our archives.The same can happen for unconfirmed bugs after 4-5 days if no one answers to them.

For unfixed and so confirmed bugs,too Devs and Korath especially has expressed his opinion to have them in the main root folder hanging in there,and it is easier I guess to have them all in one place for devs to work with them and keep in mind what has to be done.So we better check those we have archived to Archived Reports and if they are unfixed return them back to the main root folder.
So unfixed,unsolvable & confirmed bugs don't get moved from root folder EVER if we don't get a response from our Devs that bug has been fixed.Although we do have a little problem here as some bugs get fixed when Devs fix something else or forget to mention that they fixed something.My idea about this is to check them once a Year? maybe because it is way too much work to test them regularly or just leave them as they are.
If somebody does check them though don't reply to them and so bump them unless you spot they are fixed or you find new info about them.

[BAgate]

OK, everything I could find in the Archived Reports that was not fixed, unfixable or the like has been moved to the root folder. All those threads have now also been checked. However, some of the threads were either posted by me or reference game modes I know nothing about (ex. EDH), so if someone else could do a quick look it would help. Also, there are several threads where I could not confirm that the bug still exists but there is no suggestion of a fix, so if people could browse for the question mark icons on threads they started and check, it would be great. And finally, a few cases were unclear if they were resolved or not, so I bumped those to the front with a question for the developers, so if Korath or gargaroz or someone could let us know if those are still open, we'll put them in the right place.

In a semi related note: I tried to merge threads that dealt with the same card when it seemed appropriate. But there are several posts for specific cards that deal with the same mechanic (suspend is currently the biggest offender). Can anyone think of a simpler way to deal with this?

[stassy]

For similar bug reports, unfortunately there is no clean issue, either once their final status is done (fixed), archive them as separate cards so we can track each different card just in case, or just delete one and add the name of the card in the others report.

[BAgate]

Random question, I was browsing some of the pinned threads and noticed that problems are being reported as fixed. Do those ever get checked? There isn't a way to move them to pending reports, so just wondering if we were bothering with those fixes.

[stassy]

There is a way, but it's quite difficult, as it requires to use the separate thread mod function aka : move the selected post and its affiliated out from the thread. One mistake destroy the entire thread

[gmzombie]

quick question is everybody using a different icon for their thread that they have fixed and closed? for me ive been following stassy or aswan Jaguar i think with the green happy face followed by in the name checked by gmzombie that way we know who checked it. Im just thinking it would be easier if we knew that they were in fact done at least with the green happy face. tell me what u think.

[Aswan jaguar]

gmzombie if you see again my signature in the end of the post you will realise that I used the green face icon = Mr.Green just to mark the bugs between them which I will work,so that is more clear.
I change the Mr.Green icons when I am done with those bugs to the heart one.I saw you were using Mr.Green icon for "fixed/closed" bugs but I didn't mention anything as it is not so important.If you like continue to use Mr.Green.

[Aswan jaguar]

Because I saw some problem with the "Unconfirmed" bugs I want to clear that those bugs either they got tested by us Testers or by Devs (Devs don't have to answer to those to mark them as unconfirmed we do that and free time from Devs in fact)and the problem was not confirmed either because the bug was not a bug or we had little info,no savegame,screenshot and/or..... or couldn't be replicated in a clean game.So they don't have to be addressed again they are closed as unconfirmed.

NOTICE though we don't archive them immediately as the poster might reply with more info so let them in the main forum for 2 weeks as some people don't visit so frequently and then archive them.

Notice The above is true for fixed bugs too, but leave them a day as someone might answer to them especially one Dev to another or get more bug from the poster,too.So don't archive them as soon as Dev replies to them as fixed.

[BAgate]

I was the one responsible for the unconfirmed issues. It wasn't that they were unconfirmed, it was that they were unresponded to (as in they were never replied to, had no topic tags, nothing). So I brought them back up so they could get addressed one way or the other (and we've already found one unaddressed bug that is still a bug and was just never confirmed for some reason). Korath had specifically asked that old bugs be left in the root folder, so I treated bugs that had no response as new bugs (even if I couldn't confirm them). Now if anyone notices something that is unconfirmed that they think is fixed we can label it as such and move on (or it can just die), but if I didn't do what I did then some bugs would have just disappeared into the ether. And now that that is done, hopefully we'll never have to do it again and this issue will never crop up again.

[HarlequinCasts]

I think that makes perfect sense. A lot has changed with how we handle bugs since some of those were posted so it makes sense to clean house and see what's really back on those last few pages. Ideally, all the posts on the back pages are eventually labeled "confirmed - wait" or something indicating that a fix isn't coming soon, and all the bugs on the front pages are actively being worked on or are archived. Forcing the issue on any posts that have never been confirmed or responded to helps clean that up I say.

[Aswan jaguar]

- I am talking only for bugs tagged as "Unconfirmed" or "Not a bug" in their title and reason for editing those don't need further work if 2 weeks past and no one replied they have to be archived and that's it.If they are already archived no further action is needed.

[BAgate]

Understood. It's just that this whole debate started because I labeled some old unlabeled bugs as unconfirmed and korath asked why they had been reopened. My point is that we need to respond in some way to every bug report so if someone stumbles upon it 3 months later there is some indication of its status. There are still untagged bugs floating around that need to be addressed.