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Formal Request Thread
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 01 Jan 2014, 13:14
Hey Riiak,
Here you can find the final card : Tetravus
It works fine just one thing, about the tokens "Cannot be enchanted", i had to use the same work around used for Guardian Beast.
There still be the little problem when an Aura is put into battlefield directly without cast it.
I made 5 possible choise into multiple choice.
1. Trigger ability 1 and 2
2. Trigger ability 2 and 1
3. Trigger ability 1
4. Trigger ability 2
5. No trigger.
The options could be selected only if it can be playable.
Here you can find the token :
Here you can find the final card : Tetravus
It works fine just one thing, about the tokens "Cannot be enchanted", i had to use the same work around used for Guardian Beast.
There still be the little problem when an Aura is put into battlefield directly without cast it.
I made 5 possible choise into multiple choice.
1. Trigger ability 1 and 2
2. Trigger ability 2 and 1
3. Trigger ability 1
4. Trigger ability 2
5. No trigger.
The options could be selected only if it can be playable.
Here you can find the token :
- TETRAVITE | Open
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by RiiakShiNal » 01 Jan 2014, 14:28
From a quick glance here are the things I notice:NeoAnderson wrote:Hey Riiak,
Here you can find the final card : Tetravus
It works fine just one thing, about the tokens "Cannot be enchanted", i had to use the same work around used for Guardian Beast.
There still be the little problem when an Aura is put into battlefield directly without cast it.
I made 5 possible choise into multiple choice.
1. Trigger ability 1 and 2
2. Trigger ability 2 and 1
3. Trigger ability 1
4. Trigger ability 2
5. No trigger.
The options could be selected only if it can be playable.
Here you can find the token :Can you take a quick look to see if i have forget something?
- TETRAVITE | Open
- The only time a choice is actually required as to the order is when both counters and PossibleTargets are greater than 0, for example you don't want to resolve move counters off first if there are no counters to move off you would want to resolve exiling Tetravite tokens first then if there are any counters resolve moving counters off. Though this is a design decision not a bug/problem you are entitled to code the choice the way you have.
- You haven't put in a check for entering the battlefield with 3 +1/+1 counters that would be compliant with Oubliette and Tawnos's Coffin (as per our best guess).
- You have CLEANUP blocks on regular triggers (CLEANUP blocks are used for delayed triggers).
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 01 Jan 2014, 23:46
Thanks a lot for your attention, about your points, i would answer to you as the follow :RiiakShiNal wrote:From a quick glance here are the things I notice:
- The only time a choice is actually required as to the order is when both counters and PossibleTargets are greater than 0, for example you don't want to resolve move counters off first if there are no counters to move off you would want to resolve exiling Tetravite tokens first then if there are any counters resolve moving counters off. Though this is a design decision not a bug/problem you are entitled to code the choice the way you have.
- You haven't put in a check for entering the battlefield with 3 +1/+1 counters that would be compliant with Oubliette and Tawnos's Coffin (as per our best guess).
- You have CLEANUP blocks on regular triggers (CLEANUP blocks are used for delayed triggers).
- This point is not clear for me, taking your example :
you don't want to resolve move counters off first if there are no counters to move off you would want to resolve exiling Tetravite tokens first then if there are any counters resolve moving counters off.
Now look my second choice : As you said we have no counters on it, so we decide to exile tokens first and this is allowed if there are tokens, then we are able to remove the counters because there will be some counters to remove. So for me it seems to be compliant with what you just said. If i use both conditions, we will exclude the execution of 2 triggers also when it will become available. The first 2 choices depends of the first action condition, because the second will be always true if the first will be resolved. Anyway i also want to tell that is possible to resolve the action and select "0" from numerical choice for the counters to remove, or no targets for the tokens exile. Obvioussly in these case the second action resolved will do nothing. - Thanks i was forgetting about that because i was focusing on other aspects. I changed the code of zone transition as the follow, let me no if you think is ok. Also if i used this code with Clockwork Avian but the problem still remains, because it seems that is resolved before Oubliette and Tawnos's Coffin can add their counters so it has no effect. To resolve this issue i have to change the action blocks into Oubliette and Tawnos's Coffin about the counters adding, from resolution_time to play_time, these make them be executed first. Do you think this is ok or will create some other conflicts i am not seeing now ?
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<RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
if EffectSource() ~= nil then
local counters = EffectSource():CountCounters(MTG():PlusOnePlusOneCounters())
if counters >= 3 then
EffectSource():RemoveCounters( MTG():PlusOnePlusOneCounters(), (counters-3))
else
EffectSource():AddCounters( MTG():PlusOnePlusOneCounters(), (3-counters))
end
end
</RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
- My mistake i will remove them right now.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by damienx45 » 02 Jan 2014, 00:36
I don't know if these cards are already made but i would like to request these cards here.
Elvish Archdruid
Oracle of Nectars
Rhys the Exiled
Tajuru Preserver
Wolf-Skull Shaman
leonin abunas
Mycosynth Lattice
memnarch
Elvish Archdruid
Oracle of Nectars
Rhys the Exiled
Tajuru Preserver
Wolf-Skull Shaman
leonin abunas
Mycosynth Lattice
memnarch
Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 02 Jan 2014, 02:34
Hi my friend,damienx45 wrote:I don't know if these cards are already made but i would like to request these cards here.
Elvish Archdruid
Oracle of Nectars
Rhys the Exiled
Tajuru Preserver
Wolf-Skull Shaman
leonin abunas
Mycosynth Lattice
memnarch
I made some cards requested by you :
ELVISH_ARCHDRUID_253678.zip- Card + TDX
- (540.56 KiB) Downloaded 243 times
- RHYS_THE_EXILED_152643.zip
- Card + TDX
- (587.1 KiB) Downloaded 240 times
- WOLFSKULL_SHAMAN_152728.zip
- Card + TDX
- (589.02 KiB) Downloaded 228 times
- LEONIN_ABUNAS_220527.zip
- Card + TDX
- (362.03 KiB) Downloaded 243 times
- MEMNARCH_220532.zip
- Card + TDX
- (510.91 KiB) Downloaded 271 times
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 02 Jan 2014, 02:36
About this card : Oracle of Nectars this is an official card into DECKS F14 PACK1.damienx45 wrote:I don't know if these cards are already made but i would like to request these cards here.
Oracle of Nectars
Tajuru Preserver
Mycosynth Lattice
Anyway i have extracted it for you.
- Oracle of Nectars official card | Open
- ORACLE_OF_NECTARS_375105 (Official card).zip
- Official card + tdx
- (107.95 KiB) Downloaded 247 times
About the other 2 cards honestly i am not sure they can be totally coded.
Tajuru Preserver ( I am not sure we can ovverride the sacrifice action or at least i haven't tried until now, there is a player characteristic that avoid to sacrifice creatures but nothing for all the permanents, so if the sacrifice trigger can be override probably we can do something, but honestly it require some tests)
Mycosynth Lattice ( I am not sure all the card effect can be reproduced)
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by Orangewaggs » 02 Jan 2014, 03:30
Is it possible to code Zur Taa Druid?
If so can I make a request to have it created?
If so can I make a request to have it created?
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by MC Brodie » 02 Jan 2014, 03:59
It can be approximated. I don't have the time to do it but you can check this post here.NeoAnderson wrote:About the other 2 cards honestly i am not sure they can be totally coded.
Tajuru Preserver ( I am not sure we can ovverride the sacrifice action or at least i haven't tried until now, there is a player characteristic that avoid to sacrifice creatures but nothing for all the permanents, so if the sacrifice trigger can be override probably we can do something, but honestly it require some tests)
As for this one, the last ability is not possible.NeoAnderson wrote:Mycosynth Lattice ( I am not sure all the card effect can be reproduced)
I believe Xander already coded Zhur-Taa Druid and it is in this thread. Use the search feature.Orangewaggs wrote:Is it possible to code Zur Taa Druid?
If so can I make a request to have it created?
Btw, Xander really needs to get back here. He has a bunch of requests piling up
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 02 Jan 2014, 04:41
I was supposing already that my friendMC Brodie wrote:It can be approximated. I don't have the time to do it but you can check this post here.NeoAnderson wrote:About the other 2 cards honestly i am not sure they can be totally coded.
Tajuru Preserver ( I am not sure we can ovverride the sacrifice action or at least i haven't tried until now, there is a player characteristic that avoid to sacrifice creatures but nothing for all the permanents, so if the sacrifice trigger can be override probably we can do something, but honestly it require some tests)As for this one, the last ability is not possible.NeoAnderson wrote:Mycosynth Lattice ( I am not sure all the card effect can be reproduced)
Guys i have a question, i am still coding Antiquities now i should code Urza's Miter , but i have a doubt how to implement it.
Anyone knows a function who returns if a card was sacrified? Otherwise i have to store each turn all sacrified cards into a data chest.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by thefiremind » 02 Jan 2014, 09:38
There's no function to check that. I don't know how the triggers would be stacked in case of multiple deaths at the same time, but in the best case, you could use a SACRIFICED trigger with replacement_effect="1" and high priority (sumomole and me usually use 20 for this matter) that stores the sacrificed creature in a LinkedDC register, and a ZONECHANGE_BEGIN trigger (for the actual deaths) that triggers only if TriggerObject is different from the LinkedDC pointer stored by the other trigger.NeoAnderson wrote:Guys i have a question, i am still coding Antiquities now i should code Urza's Miter , but i have a doubt how to implement it.
Anyone knows a function who returns if a card was sacrified? Otherwise i have to store each turn all sacrified cards into a data chest.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 02 Jan 2014, 12:45
Thanks TheFireMind, it is similar to the idea i already have, but until now i have not used priority to set the stack resolution order. Anyway it seems to work, unfortunately i haven't tested with multiple sacrifice, but i think it should work anyway.thefiremind wrote:There's no function to check that. I don't know how the triggers would be stacked in case of multiple deaths at the same time, but in the best case, you could use a SACRIFICED trigger with replacement_effect="1" and high priority (sumomole and me usually use 20 for this matter) that stores the sacrificed creature in a LinkedDC register, and a ZONECHANGE_BEGIN trigger (for the actual deaths) that triggers only if TriggerObject is different from the LinkedDC pointer stored by the other trigger.NeoAnderson wrote:Guys i have a question, i am still coding Antiquities now i should code Urza's Miter , but i have a doubt how to implement it.
Anyone knows a function who returns if a card was sacrified? Otherwise i have to store each turn all sacrified cards into a data chest.
1.Now i have another question
I was reading the card Xenic Poltergeist, normally it could be coded but i also read an added rule :
8/1/2008: A noncreature permanent that turns into a creature can attack, and its
abilities can be activated, only if its controller has continuously controlled that permanent since the beginning of his or her most recent turn. It doesn't matter how long the permanent has been a creature.This rule make the card really complex to code, because i think it still could be coded, but to do it, should keep all informations ( the number of turn when it comes in play, controller, step ), about all the suitable targets. As idea could be still doable, doing something similar to the recording of the counters we made with Oubliette, but honestly i think this could be huge for the computation of the engine.
What's your opinion about it?
2. Going forward found another doubt, the card Power Artifact can be coded?
I haven't tried but i think that the function DecreaseCost() works only for the casting cost right?
So is there a possibility to code this effect?
I was thinking to a walk around :
1. A trigger CONSIDERED_FOR_ACTIVATION with replacement_effect if the TriggerObject() is the parent artifact add 2 colorless mana using riiak mana tokens, then call a delayDC ABILITY_RESOLVE who delete the mana tokens if were not used (this to avoid the utilization of the mana for other cards).
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by MC Brodie » 02 Jan 2014, 14:11
That is just summoning sickness. I think the game already handles this properly. At least that's what I've experienced with Halcyon Glaze.
As for question 2, unfortunately there is no easy way to reduce/change the cost of activated abilities. You may be able to find a workaround with mana tokens though you may run into issues similar to the "only spend this mana to cast creatures" topic.
As for question 2, unfortunately there is no easy way to reduce/change the cost of activated abilities. You may be able to find a workaround with mana tokens though you may run into issues similar to the "only spend this mana to cast creatures" topic.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by NeoAnderson » 02 Jan 2014, 15:31
About the first point i am not sure we are talking about the summon sickness.MC Brodie wrote:That is just summoning sickness. I think the game already handles this properly. At least that's what I've experienced with Halcyon Glaze.
As for question 2, unfortunately there is no easy way to reduce/change the cost of activated abilities. You may be able to find a workaround with mana tokens though you may run into issues similar to the "only spend this mana to cast creatures" topic.
Summon sickness afflict only creatures without haste. Here we are talking about how long we control a card.
For example is an effect take a temporary control of card of your own, and it return under your control in the main step, this card will not have summon sickness but cannot be a good target for this ability.
Here we are talking to record in a datachest all the cards at the beginning of each turn for any player.
About the point two i know this is an issue i was discussing with Riiak some days ago.
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Re: Formal Request Thread
by thefiremind » 02 Jan 2014, 16:08
Wrong, it will have summoning sickness. Refer to the definition:NeoAnderson wrote:For example is an effect take a temporary control of card of your own, and it return under your control in the main step, this card will not have summon sickness but cannot be a good target for this ability.
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Summoning_sickness
The term “summoning sickness” is an informal term which describes a creature’s inability to attack or to use activated abilities that include the tap symbol when it has come under a player’s control since the beginning of that player’s most recent turn.
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