Formal Request Thread

[RiiakShiNal]

The weird thing is that when i attack with enchanted creature or the main one, all the opponent creature at a first approach are declared as blockers, but then after a while he remove all the creatures or some of them from blocking!!!

This is the same thing that happens with my transform cards. I always thought that the bug was connected to the clone effect, but your bestow code doesn't use clone effects so I have no clue. The real question is: why do official cards work when using block restrictions against the AI? Where is the difference?

I remember this problem was reported on Taunting Elf as well which leads me to believe that this is a bug in the engine that the developers never really fixed.

[NeoAnderson]

EDIT: I'm curious about how could encounter such bug, I tested your code but it seems to run fine.

I know i also have tested it, i am not a programmer, but i have a lot of fantasy!

I remember this problem was reported on Taunting Elf as well which leads me to believe that this is a bug in the engine that the developers never really fixed.

If you use my solution the bug is fixed.
Fire you could adapt my code for your trasform cards.

[thefiremind]

If you use my solution the bug is fixed.
Fire you could adapt my code for your trasform cards.

I would be glad to do that, but the bug on my transform cards isn't about a Lure effect. How could I adapt your code in order to enforce a CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN restriction, for example? It affects only the creature itself.

[NEMESiS]

Hello, I would like to request Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge please.

[NeoAnderson]

If you use my solution the bug is fixed.
Fire you could adapt my code for your trasform cards.

I would be glad to do that, but the bug on my transform cards isn't about a Lure effect. How could I adapt your code in order to enforce a CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN restriction, for example? It affects only the creature itself.

I am sorry but haven't followed the discussion about your trasforming cards, so the problem is the opposite? I mean Creature A should ATTACK_EACH_TURN but it is declared as attacker then removed from attack???

[thefiremind]

Creature A should ATTACK_EACH_TURN but it is declared as attacker then removed from attack???

Yes. Same goes for CHARACTERISTIC_CANT_BE_BLOCKED_EXCEPT_BY_TWO_OR_MORE_CREATURES: two creatures are automatically assigned, but then the AI can remove one or all of them from blocking.

[NeoAnderson]

Creature A should ATTACK_EACH_TURN but it is declared as attacker then removed from attack???

Yes. Same goes for CHARACTERISTIC_CANT_BE_BLOCKED_EXCEPT_BY_TWO_OR_MORE_CREATURES: two creatures are automatically assigned, but then the AI can remove one or all of them from blocking.

About the second problem "CANT_BE_BLOCKED_EXCEPT_BY_TWO_OR_MORE_CREATURES" i think you should try the code i already posted, i think it should work, because when the AI first declare the 2 blockers, they will fire the trigger "BLOCKING" so they will be pushed to block with the characteristic "MUST_BLOCK". Just try.

About the first one i think the code can be adapted, turning the "BLOCKING" trigger into "ATTACKING" then granting to the creature the ability "MUST_ATTACK".

[thefiremind]

About the second problem "CANT_BE_BLOCKED_EXCEPT_BY_TWO_OR_MORE_CREATURES" i think you should try the code i already posted, i think it should work, because when the AI first declare the 2 blockers, they will fire the trigger "BLOCKING" so they will be pushed to block with the characteristic "MUST_BLOCK". Just try.

This would be a bad fix because the 2 blocking creatures are picked randomly, but if the AI has more than just those 2 creatures it might want to block with a different couple.

About the first one i think the code can be adapted, turning the "BLOCKING" trigger into "ATTACKING" then granting to the creature the ability "MUST_ATTACK".

You would basically grant an additional CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK on top of the already existing CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN: I already tried to use CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK and manage the "each turn" manually, but the bug persists.

[NeoAnderson]

About the second problem "CANT_BE_BLOCKED_EXCEPT_BY_TWO_OR_MORE_CREATURES" i think you should try the code i already posted, i think it should work, because when the AI first declare the 2 blockers, they will fire the trigger "BLOCKING" so they will be pushed to block with the characteristic "MUST_BLOCK". Just try.

This would be a bad fix because the 2 blocking creatures are picked randomly, but if the AI has more than just those 2 creatures it might want to block with a different couple.

This should be still possible because that code should ensure just that the creatures first declared as blockers cannot be removed, so i think that if the AI would add other creature to the blocker it still can do it.

About the first one i think the code can be adapted, turning the "BLOCKING" trigger into "ATTACKING" then granting to the creature the ability "MUST_ATTACK".

You would basically grant an additional CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK on top of the already existing CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN: I already tried to use CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK and manage the "each turn" manually, but the bug persists.

Could you post a code of a card of yours that have this issue? I want to make some tests.

[thefiremind]

This should be still possible because that code should ensure just that the creatures first declared as blockers cannot be removed, so i think that if the AI would add other creature to the blocker it still can do it.

It's still wrong: if AI has creatures A, B, C and D, and A+B are automatically assigned, assigning only C+D could still be the best move and the AI should be able to do that.

Could you post a code of a card of yours that have this issue? I want to make some tests.

The code is in my mod: at first I thought that CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN wasn't bugged, so I left Hanweir Watchkeep / Bane of Hanweir in the Werewolves deck. Then I discovered it was bugged, but I had no idea what to switch them with, so I still left them in.

[NeoAnderson]

This should be still possible because that code should ensure just that the creatures first declared as blockers cannot be removed, so i think that if the AI would add other creature to the blocker it still can do it.

It's still wrong: if AI has creatures A, B, C and D, and A+B are automatically assigned, assigning only C+D could still be the best move and the AI should be able to do that.

Could you post a code of a card of yours that have this issue? I want to make some tests.

The code is in my mod: at first I thought that CHARACTERISTIC_MUST_ATTACK_EACH_TURN wasn't bugged, so I left Hanweir Watchkeep / Bane of Hanweir in the Werewolves deck. Then I discovered it was bugged, but I had no idea what to switch them with, so I still left them in.

Ok Fire i will check tomorrow, now i am going to finish the Born of the gods set.

[Necropotence]

hello! someone has these decks: sneak and tell deck, dredge, and ad nauseam. for dopt2014 or dopt2013. from already thank you =)

sorry if this does not go here

[AndreasD]

Hi all,

i´m new here and i going to rebuild my deck into the PC-game.
I nearly found all needed cards. I created some i needed but i couldn´t find this one:

Hired Torturer

Could anyone please help me?

Thanks,
Andi

[sumomole]

Hi all,

i´m new here and i going to rebuild my deck into the PC-game.
I nearly found all needed cards. I created some i needed but i couldn´t find this one:

Hired Torturer

Could anyone please help me?

Thanks,
Andi

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[drleg3nd]

well I would like to request a Certain planeswalker that is on gatherer from a modder that has a nivmizzet picture