Volrathxp's Custom Dotp 2014 DLC (Last Update: 12/6/2014)

[Kithkin]

After so many hours of testing/playing VXP's awesome DLC, I feel obliged to share my experience.

I have never played paper MAGIC. I have been playing DOTP only since 2014. I quit DOTP2015. I am German (not that it matters).

Half of the VXP decks are "AI ready", i.e. AI is up to par with the human player. It is a known fact, that AI does not know how to play nonbasic lands. And sometimes it even refuses to play basic lands. I've witnessed this (my AI partner) in 2HG. And most of all, AI usually does not have a clue how to vote. Don't get me wrong. I know it's not your fault.

I am very fond of 2HG. It is a multiplayer format. Conspiracy is also a multiplayer "format". Therefore it is a great pity that the conspiracy decks are NOT "AI ready" and therefore not suitable for 2HG. Imagine a 2HG match featuring The Black Rose and Will of the Council vs. Selvala's Charge and G/W Tokens. Unfortunately not possible!

I have not played every deck in the mod since there are so many of them. In general, they are quite balanced and offer interesting themes.

I really love to play all the new mechanics like [Heroics, Strive, Constellation, Dethrone, Will of the Council, Parley]. And I like Planeswalkers. It is an experience I would not want to miss.

In 2HG, my favorite tag team so far is Call of the Bard/Angelic Chorus. Great synergy. Landfall/lifegain on both sides and the Archangel of Thune are an almost invincible combination. Take a look.

To cut a long story short, I highly recommend this mod.

[volrathxp]

bug report: keranos devotion does not work, he comes in as a creature regardless of devotion.
mercurial pretender allows me to copy opponent creature when he is supposed to only copy my won creatures.
keranos does not draw a card when I draw a land, but it ask to deal 3 dmg to player or creature without doing anything

Will fix the pretender, but have a couple questions on Keranos.

I've had zero issues with the dual devotion function I've been using, and no one else has reported this issue.

Edit: Actually quick research shows I'm wrong here, should know better than to shout out answers when I'm tired. The function of revealing the card is a static ability, and the trigger is different based on what type of card is drawn, so you pick targets only if you reveal nonland. Neo's addition here should fix this, and maybe fix the card draw issue too.

Now, I'm not sure why it's not drawing the card. I had zero issues with this myself, and I beat the heck out of Keranos pretty extensively. Maybe Kithkin can chime in here and see if he's had any issues.

[NeoAnderson]

Keranos *will* ask you to target, no matter what you draw. This is because this is how the ability actually goes onto the stack. Choosing a target is a requirement of placing the ability on the stack. By the time the trigger is resolving, you are revealing the card drawn, and then doing either or based on land or nonland.

About the target priority you can avoid it splitting the trigger into 2 triggers : 1 Trigger (DRAW) + 1 DelayedTrigger (When the card drawn is not a land) : as the follow :

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<TRIGGERED_ABILITY>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="en-US"><![CDATA[Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way, draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="fr-FR"><![CDATA[Révélez la première carte que vous piochez à chacun de vos tours. À chaque fois que vous révélez une carte de terrain de cette manière, piochez une carte. À chaque fois que vous révélez une carte non-terrain de cette manière, Kéranos inflige 3 blessures à une cible, créature ou joueur.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="es-ES"><![CDATA[Muestra la primera carta que robes en cada uno de tus turnos. Siempre que muestres una carta de tierra de esta manera, roba una carta. Siempre que muestres una carta que no sea tierra de esta manera, Keranos hace 3 puntos de daño a la criatura o jugador objetivo.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="de-DE"><![CDATA[Zeige die erste Karte, die du in jedem Zug ziehst, offen vor. Immer wenn du auf diese Weise eine Länderkarte vorzeigst, ziehe eine Karte. Immer wenn du auf diese Weise eine Karte vorzeigst, die kein Land ist, fügt Keranos einer Kreatur oder einem Spieler deiner Wahl 3 Schadenspunkte zu.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="it-IT"><![CDATA[Rivela la prima carta che peschi in ciascuno dei tuoi turni. Ogniqualvolta riveli una carta terra in questo modo, pesca una carta. Ogniqualvolta riveli una carta non terra in questo modo, Keranos infligge 3 danni a una creatura o a un giocatore bersaglio.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="jp-JA"><![CDATA[あなたの毎ターン、あなたが最初に引くカードを公開する。これによりあなたが土地カードを公開するたび、カードを１引く。これによりあなたが土地でないカードを公開するたび、クリーチャー１体かプレイヤー１人を対象とする。嵐の神、ケラノスはそれに３点のダメージを与える。]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="ko-KR"><![CDATA[당신이 매 턴마다 뽑는 첫 카드를 공개한다. 당신이 이런 식으로 대지 카드를 공개할 때마다, 카드 한 장을 뽑는다. 당신이 이런 식으로 대지가 아닌 카드를 공개할 때마다, 생물 또는 플레이어를 목표로 정한다. 케레노스는 그 목표에게 피해 3점을 입힌다.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="ru-RU"><![CDATA[Покажите первую карту, которую вы берете в каждом вашем ходу. Каждый раз, когда вы таким образом показываете карту земли, возьмите карту. Каждый раз, когда вы таким образом показываете карту, не являющуюся землей, Керан наносит 3 повреждения целевому существу или игроку.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="pt-BR"><![CDATA[Revele o primeiro card que você comprar a cada turno. Toda vez que revelar um card de terreno desta forma, compre um card. Toda vez que você revelar um card que não seja terreno desta forma, Queranos causará 3 pontos de dano ao jogador ou criatura alvo.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
<TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD" simple_qualifier="objectyoucontrol">
    local interrogation = MTG():ClearInterrogationQuery()
    interrogation:SetPlayer( EffectController() )
    local num_drawn_this_turn = interrogation:Count( INTERROGATE_CARDS_DRAWN, INTERROGATE_THIS_TURN, 2 )
    if num_drawn_this_turn == 1 and EffectController():MyTurn() == true then
       TriggerObject():Reveal()
       return true
    else
       return false
    end
    </TRIGGER>
      <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    if TriggerObject()~= nil then   
       if TriggerObject():GetCardType():Test(CARD_TYPE_LAND) then
          EffectController():DrawCard()
       else
                MTG():CreateDelayedTrigger(1,nil)
        end
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
   </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

<TRIGGERED_ABILITY resource_id="1" replacement_query="1">
    <TRIGGER value="STATE_BASED_EFFECTS" simple_qualifier="self"  pre_trigger="1" />
    <CLEANUP fire_once="1" />
    <TARGET tag="CARD_QUERY_CHOOSE_DEAL_3_DAMAGE" definition="0" compartment="0" count="1" />
      <TARGET_DEFINITION id="0">
    local filter = ClearFilter()
    filter:SetFilterType(FILTER_TYPE_CARDS + FILTER_TYPE_PLAYERS)
    filter:Add(FE_TYPE, OP_IS, CARD_TYPE_CREATURE)
    </TARGET_DEFINITION>
      <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    local target_creature = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_CardPtr(0)
    local target_player = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_PlayerPtr(0)
    if target_creature ~= nil then
       EffectSourceLKI():DealDamageTo(3, target_creature)
    elseif target_player ~= nil then
       EffectSourceLKI():DealDamageTo(3, target_player)
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
      <AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING compartment="0" hint="HINT_ENEMY_ONLY" />
      <SFX text="TARGET_FIREBALL_PLAY" />
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

Doing in this way you don't have to target also when is not needed.

[volrathxp]

Keranos *will* ask you to target, no matter what you draw. This is because this is how the ability actually goes onto the stack. Choosing a target is a requirement of placing the ability on the stack. By the time the trigger is resolving, you are revealing the card drawn, and then doing either or based on land or nonland.

About the target priority you can avoid it splitting the trigger into 2 triggers : 1 Trigger (DRAW) + 1 DelayedTrigger (When the card drawn is not a land) : as the follow :

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<TRIGGERED_ABILITY>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="en-US"><![CDATA[Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way, draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="fr-FR"><![CDATA[Révélez la première carte que vous piochez à chacun de vos tours. À chaque fois que vous révélez une carte de terrain de cette manière, piochez une carte. À chaque fois que vous révélez une carte non-terrain de cette manière, Kéranos inflige 3 blessures à une cible, créature ou joueur.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="es-ES"><![CDATA[Muestra la primera carta que robes en cada uno de tus turnos. Siempre que muestres una carta de tierra de esta manera, roba una carta. Siempre que muestres una carta que no sea tierra de esta manera, Keranos hace 3 puntos de daño a la criatura o jugador objetivo.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="de-DE"><![CDATA[Zeige die erste Karte, die du in jedem Zug ziehst, offen vor. Immer wenn du auf diese Weise eine Länderkarte vorzeigst, ziehe eine Karte. Immer wenn du auf diese Weise eine Karte vorzeigst, die kein Land ist, fügt Keranos einer Kreatur oder einem Spieler deiner Wahl 3 Schadenspunkte zu.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="it-IT"><![CDATA[Rivela la prima carta che peschi in ciascuno dei tuoi turni. Ogniqualvolta riveli una carta terra in questo modo, pesca una carta. Ogniqualvolta riveli una carta non terra in questo modo, Keranos infligge 3 danni a una creatura o a un giocatore bersaglio.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="jp-JA"><![CDATA[あなたの毎ターン、あなたが最初に引くカードを公開する。これによりあなたが土地カードを公開するたび、カードを１引く。これによりあなたが土地でないカードを公開するたび、クリーチャー１体かプレイヤー１人を対象とする。嵐の神、ケラノスはそれに３点のダメージを与える。]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="ko-KR"><![CDATA[당신이 매 턴마다 뽑는 첫 카드를 공개한다. 당신이 이런 식으로 대지 카드를 공개할 때마다, 카드 한 장을 뽑는다. 당신이 이런 식으로 대지가 아닌 카드를 공개할 때마다, 생물 또는 플레이어를 목표로 정한다. 케레노스는 그 목표에게 피해 3점을 입힌다.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="ru-RU"><![CDATA[Покажите первую карту, которую вы берете в каждом вашем ходу. Каждый раз, когда вы таким образом показываете карту земли, возьмите карту. Каждый раз, когда вы таким образом показываете карту, не являющуюся землей, Керан наносит 3 повреждения целевому существу или игроку.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="pt-BR"><![CDATA[Revele o primeiro card que você comprar a cada turno. Toda vez que revelar um card de terreno desta forma, compre um card. Toda vez que você revelar um card que não seja terreno desta forma, Queranos causará 3 pontos de dano ao jogador ou criatura alvo.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
<TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD" simple_qualifier="objectyoucontrol">
    local interrogation = MTG():ClearInterrogationQuery()
    interrogation:SetPlayer( EffectController() )
    local num_drawn_this_turn = interrogation:Count( INTERROGATE_CARDS_DRAWN, INTERROGATE_THIS_TURN, 2 )
    if num_drawn_this_turn == 1 and EffectController():MyTurn() == true then
       TriggerObject():Reveal()
       return true
    else
       return false
    end
    </TRIGGER>
      <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    if TriggerObject()~= nil then   
       if TriggerObject():GetCardType():Test(CARD_TYPE_LAND) then
          EffectController():DrawCard()
       else
                MTG():CreateDelayedTrigger(1,nil)
        end
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
   </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

<TRIGGERED_ABILITY resource_id="1" replacement_query="1">
    <TRIGGER value="STATE_BASED_EFFECTS" simple_qualifier="self"  pre_trigger="1" />
    <CLEANUP fire_once="1" />
    <TARGET tag="CARD_QUERY_CHOOSE_DEAL_3_DAMAGE" definition="0" compartment="0" count="1" />
      <TARGET_DEFINITION id="0">
    local filter = ClearFilter()
    filter:SetFilterType(FILTER_TYPE_CARDS + FILTER_TYPE_PLAYERS)
    filter:Add(FE_TYPE, OP_IS, CARD_TYPE_CREATURE)
    </TARGET_DEFINITION>
      <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    local target_creature = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_CardPtr(0)
    local target_player = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_PlayerPtr(0)
    if target_creature ~= nil then
       EffectSourceLKI():DealDamageTo(3, target_creature)
    elseif target_player ~= nil then
       EffectSourceLKI():DealDamageTo(3, target_player)
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
      <AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING compartment="0" hint="HINT_ENEMY_ONLY" />
      <SFX text="TARGET_FIREBALL_PLAY" />
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

Doing in this way you don't have to target also when is not needed.

I will look into it. Thanks

[thefiremind]

Doing in this way you don't have to target also when is not needed.

By looking at this topic, it seems that the best way to code Keranos would be to make the reveal an internal (replacement_effect) trigger, which then makes a non-internal delayed trigger for the draw or a non-internal delayed trigger for the damage, according to the revealed card types.

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  <TRIGGERED_ABILITY replacement_effect="1">
    <LOCALISED_TEXT LanguageCode="en-US"><![CDATA[Reveal the first card you draw on each of your turns. Whenever you reveal a land card this way, draw a card. Whenever you reveal a nonland card this way, Keranos deals 3 damage to target creature or player.]]></LOCALISED_TEXT>
    <TRIGGER value="DREW_CARD" simple_qualifier="objectyoucontrol">
    local interrogation = MTG():ClearInterrogationQuery()
    interrogation:SetPlayer( EffectController() )
    local num_drawn_this_turn = interrogation:Count( INTERROGATE_CARDS_DRAWN, INTERROGATE_THIS_TURN, 2 )
    if num_drawn_this_turn == 1 and EffectController():MyTurn() then
       TriggerObject():Reveal()
       return true
    end
    return false
    </TRIGGER>
    <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    if TriggerObject()~= nil then   
       if TriggerObject():GetCardType():Test(CARD_TYPE_LAND) then
          MTG():CreateDelayedTrigger(1, nil)
       else
          local delayDC = EffectDC():Make_Chest(1)
          delayDC:Set_CardPtr( 1, EffectSource() ) -- not sure if EffectSource carries over to delayed triggers automatically, I think it doesn't
          delayDC:LKIShield_CardPtr(1)
          MTG():CreateDelayedTrigger(2, delayDC)
       end
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

  <TRIGGERED_ABILITY resource_id="1">
    <TRIGGER value="STATE_BASED_EFFECTS" />
    <CLEANUP fire_once="1" />
    <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    EffectController():DrawCards(1)
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

  <TRIGGERED_ABILITY resource_id="2">
    <TRIGGER value="STATE_BASED_EFFECTS" />
    <CLEANUP fire_once="1" />
    <TARGET tag="CARD_QUERY_CHOOSE_DEAL_3_DAMAGE" definition="0" compartment="0" count="1" />
    <TARGET_DEFINITION id="0">
    local filter = ClearFilter()
    filter:SetFilterType(FILTER_TYPE_CARDS + FILTER_TYPE_PLAYERS)
    filter:Add(FE_TYPE, OP_IS, CARD_TYPE_CREATURE)
    </TARGET_DEFINITION>
    <RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    local target_creature = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_CardPtr(0)
    local target_player = EffectDC():Get_Targets(0):Get_PlayerPtr(0)
    local source = EffectDC():Get_CardPtr(1)
    if target_creature ~= nil then
       source:DealDamageTo(3, target_creature)
    elseif target_player ~= nil then
       source:DealDamageTo(3, target_player)
    end
    </RESOLUTION_TIME_ACTION>
    <AI_SIMPLIFIED_TARGETING compartment="0" hint="HINT_ENEMY_ONLY" />
    <SFX text="TARGET_LIGHTNING_PLAY" />
  </TRIGGERED_ABILITY>

If it doesn't work, try replacement_query instead of replacement_effect (I don't know if it's necessary for Reveal) and/or move the Reveal to the resolution.

[Kithkin]

bug report: keranos devotion does not work, he comes in as a creature regardless of devotion.
mercurial pretender allows me to copy opponent creature when he is supposed to only copy my won creatures.
keranos does not draw a card when I draw a land, but it ask to deal 3 dmg to player or creature without doing anything

Maybe Kithkin can chime in here and see if he's had any issues.

Well, I did some testing with The Mindrazer. This deck is mind-boggling.

Keranos, God of Storms does, what he is supposed to do, even more.
- Without enough devotion, he is an enchantment.
- With seven or more devotion, he becomes a creature.
- If he draws a land card on his first draw, the land card goes into his hand and he draws an additional card. In addition to that, the player is asked to choose target creature/player for 3 damage. But, the damage is NOT being dealt.
- If he draws a nonland card on his first draw, the nonland card goes into his hand and the player is asked to choose target creature/player and damage is being dealt accordingly.

For the player it is a bit hard/fast to see which card was drawn. Maybe a "reveal step" can be included into the process.

While testing against the Defenders deck, I found another issue.

Bug report

Guardian Zendikon -- The enchanted land does NOT become a defender, instead Guardian Zendikon does. The enchanted land, now a 2/6 creature, attacked me.

[Kithkin]

After the 8/31 update, Akroan Crusader still does not produce a soldier token.

[volrathxp]

bug report: keranos devotion does not work, he comes in as a creature regardless of devotion.
mercurial pretender allows me to copy opponent creature when he is supposed to only copy my won creatures.
keranos does not draw a card when I draw a land, but it ask to deal 3 dmg to player or creature without doing anything

Maybe Kithkin can chime in here and see if he's had any issues.

Well, I did some testing with The Mindrazer. This deck is mind-boggling.

Keranos, God of Storms does, what he is supposed to do, even more.
- Without enough devotion, he is an enchantment.
- With seven or more devotion, he becomes a creature.
- If he draws a land card on his first draw, the land card goes into his hand and he draws an additional card. In addition to that, the player is asked to choose target creature/player for 3 damage. But, the damage is NOT being dealt.
- If he draws a nonland card on his first draw, the nonland card goes into his hand and the player is asked to choose target creature/player and damage is being dealt accordingly.

For the player it is a bit hard/fast to see which card was drawn. Maybe a "reveal step" can be included into the process.

While testing against the Defenders deck, I found another issue.

Bug report

Guardian Zendikon -- The enchanted land does NOT become a defender, instead Guardian Zendikon does. The enchanted land, now a 2/6 creature, attacked me.

Try Keranos now after this last update. I will look into the rest of this.

[volrathxp]

Uploaded new cored wad, w/ fixed Akroan Crusader, Guardian Zendikon, and Keranos (Keranos I tested myself and he now works as intended).

Again, let me know what problems you guys find.

[volrathxp]

After so many hours of testing/playing VXP's awesome DLC, I feel obliged to share my experience.

I have never played paper MAGIC. I have been playing DOTP only since 2014. I quit DOTP2015. I am German (not that it matters).

Half of the VXP decks are "AI ready", i.e. AI is up to par with the human player. It is a known fact, that AI does not know how to play nonbasic lands. And sometimes it even refuses to play basic lands. I've witnessed this (my AI partner) in 2HG. And most of all, AI usually does not have a clue how to vote. Don't get me wrong. I know it's not your fault.

I am very fond of 2HG. It is a multiplayer format. Conspiracy is also a multiplayer "format". Therefore it is a great pity that the conspiracy decks are NOT "AI ready" and therefore not suitable for 2HG. Imagine a 2HG match featuring The Black Rose and Will of the Council vs. Selvala's Charge and G/W Tokens. Unfortunately not possible!

I have not played every deck in the mod since there are so many of them. In general, they are quite balanced and offer interesting themes.

I really love to play all the new mechanics like [Heroics, Strive, Constellation, Dethrone, Will of the Council, Parley]. And I like Planeswalkers. It is an experience I would not want to miss.

In 2HG, my favorite tag team so far is Call of the Bard/Angelic Chorus. Great synergy. Landfall/lifegain on both sides and the Archangel of Thune are an almost invincible combination. Take a look.

2HG.jpg

To cut a long story short, I highly recommend this mod.

I did not get a chance to respond to this yet, but thank you very much for the glowing recommendation. I'm pleased to see people enjoying my work, and not only that, but I enjoy seeing that people like the decks. I play a lot of paper magic, mostly EDH, so I try my best to build on 60 cards which I don't do often, but it's mostly turned out okay.

[Blue Ghost]

Has Mirari's Wake been tested? Its mana doubling ability doesn't seem to work for me. I'm using RSN's mana functions, and tapping the lands manually.

[volrathxp]

Has Mirari's Wake been tested? Its mana doubling ability doesn't seem to work for me. I'm using RSN's mana functions, and tapping the lands manually.

There was something about this card (and conversely Dictate of Karametra), RSN had chimed in on it. I'll poke around and see if I can find it again.

[drleg3nd]

phenax devotion is also buggy..i would suggest checking out all gods in your mod to make sure they good to go

[volrathxp]

phenax devotion is also buggy..i would suggest checking out all gods in your mod to make sure they good to go

Ii'm honestly not sure why you are having these issues. I'm using suomoles dual devotion function and it works in his mod just fine. I included the relevant function files for it with my mod as well. This was actually one of my first bugs.

[Kithkin]

phenax devotion is also buggy..i would suggest checking out all gods in your mod to make sure they good to go

Ii'm honestly not sure why you are having these issues. I'm using suomoles dual devotion function and it works in his mod just fine. I included the relevant function files for it with my mod as well. This was actually one of my first bugs.

I'll check'em out when I get home.