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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Fizanko » 04 Oct 2014, 04:09

I think the Domain achievement may not work as it should.

I had this deck and won
tri | Open
1 Arcanis the Omnipotent|DDN
1 Blood Host|M15
1 Brimstone Volley|CNS
1 Burning-Eye Zubera|SOK
1 Casting of Bones|ALL|1
1 Chronomaton|M13
1 Darksteel Ingot|DST
1 Dreamspoiler Witches|MMA
1 Echoing Truth|MMA
1 Exclude|INV
1 Furor of the Bitten|ISD
1 Ghoul's Feast|MMQ
1 Gild|BNG
1 Gold Myr|HOP
1 Indentured Djinn|MMQ
1 Initiates of the Ebon Hand|FEM|3
1 Kamahl's Desire|ODY
1 Kris Mage|MMQ
1 Lava Axe|PO2
1 Mark of Mutiny|PC2
4 Mountain|PDS
1 Mox Sapphire|LEA
1 Obelisk of Esper|C13
1 Puppet Master|CHR
1 Rapacious One|ROE
1 Razortooth Rats|6ED
1 Satyr Firedancer|BNG
1 Scion of Darkness|LGN
1 Sign in Blood|M13
4 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
4 Snow-Covered Mountain|CSP
4 Snow-Covered Swamp|CSP
4 Swamp|PDS
1 Synapse Sliver|LGN
1 Talons of Falkenrath|DKA
1 Terminate|ARB
1 Thassa's Emissary|THS
1 Thassa, God of the Sea|THS
1 Thunder-Thrash Elder|PC2
1 Unscythe, Killer of Kings|ARB
1 Vault Skirge|NPH
1 Wei Scout|PTK
1 Wetland Sambar|KTK
1 Wrecking Ball|COM
1 Wrecking Ogre|GTC


And so couldn't possibly have all the lands, still i won 2 rounds, and the achievement is there "2 wins" :
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I think the achievement count the mana given by artifacts or creatures, while it's mentionning 'basic lands'
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby KrazyTheFox » 08 Oct 2014, 02:52

Fizanko wrote:I think the Domain achievement may not work as it should.

I had this deck and won
tri | Open
1 Arcanis the Omnipotent|DDN
1 Blood Host|M15
1 Brimstone Volley|CNS
1 Burning-Eye Zubera|SOK
1 Casting of Bones|ALL|1
1 Chronomaton|M13
1 Darksteel Ingot|DST
1 Dreamspoiler Witches|MMA
1 Echoing Truth|MMA
1 Exclude|INV
1 Furor of the Bitten|ISD
1 Ghoul's Feast|MMQ
1 Gild|BNG
1 Gold Myr|HOP
1 Indentured Djinn|MMQ
1 Initiates of the Ebon Hand|FEM|3
1 Kamahl's Desire|ODY
1 Kris Mage|MMQ
1 Lava Axe|PO2
1 Mark of Mutiny|PC2
4 Mountain|PDS
1 Mox Sapphire|LEA
1 Obelisk of Esper|C13
1 Puppet Master|CHR
1 Rapacious One|ROE
1 Razortooth Rats|6ED
1 Satyr Firedancer|BNG
1 Scion of Darkness|LGN
1 Sign in Blood|M13
4 Snow-Covered Island|CSP
4 Snow-Covered Mountain|CSP
4 Snow-Covered Swamp|CSP
4 Swamp|PDS
1 Synapse Sliver|LGN
1 Talons of Falkenrath|DKA
1 Terminate|ARB
1 Thassa's Emissary|THS
1 Thassa, God of the Sea|THS
1 Thunder-Thrash Elder|PC2
1 Unscythe, Killer of Kings|ARB
1 Vault Skirge|NPH
1 Wei Scout|PTK
1 Wetland Sambar|KTK
1 Wrecking Ball|COM
1 Wrecking Ogre|GTC


And so couldn't possibly have all the lands, still i won 2 rounds, and the achievement is there "2 wins" :
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I think the achievement count the mana given by artifacts or creatures, while it's mentionning 'basic lands'
Can confirm. Domain counts any basic land at the moment. Snow lands are basic lands. I just had the same thing happen to me with 2 Forests, 1 Snow-Covered Mountain, 1 Snow-Covered Plains, 1 Plains, and 1 Snow-Covered Forest on the field.
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Hanmac » 08 Oct 2014, 05:33

while building a deck for "without spells" i tried one with only Suspended cards.

it didnt work and i understand why, but i think there should be an achievement for only playing cards with suspend
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Marek14 » 08 Oct 2014, 07:42

Hanmac wrote:while building a deck for "without spells" i tried one with only Suspended cards.

it didnt work and i understand why, but i think there should be an achievement for only playing cards with suspend
It could be called "Thrill and Suspense" :) Related achievement: The Cheapskate - Win the game without ever paying mana for your spells. Suspend would count, as well as various alternate play costs or spells that take mana in different way than directly casting, like Pacts.
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Agetian » 09 Oct 2014, 18:37

I noticed that in Constructed, you get a *ton* of achievements for just winning a single Momir Basic match (the "no creatures in deck achievement", the "no spells played" achievement, typically the "mana flooded" achievement, and some others that I forgot about). What do you think, should this be the case or should certain achievements (e.g. no creatures / no spells) not apply when playing Momir Basic, instead yielding only the Momir Basic achievement itself + maybe some others? (mana flooded may actually be OK, hellbent is OK, etc.).

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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby drdev » 09 Oct 2014, 20:45

Agetian wrote:I noticed that in Constructed, you get a *ton* of achievements for just winning a single Momir Basic match (the "no creatures in deck achievement", the "no spells played" achievement, typically the "mana flooded" achievement, and some others that I forgot about). What do you think, should this be the case or should certain achievements (e.g. no creatures / no spells) not apply when playing Momir Basic, instead yielding only the Momir Basic achievement itself + maybe some others? (mana flooded may actually be OK, hellbent is OK, etc.).

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I think those achievements should be disabled for Vanguard in general (including Momir Basic), as avatar abilities make it possible to circumvent certain things.
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby serrasmurf » 10 Oct 2014, 06:55

Overkill & Life to Spare are fairly easy, you might raise the level for Mythic to (-)1000

New idea: Battle of Wits:
win while there are still 200/300/500/1000 cards in your deck
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby lujo » 10 Oct 2014, 13:11

Hellbent, mana floded, mana screwed and some others basically happen all the time. Is it supposed to work like that?
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby drdev » 10 Oct 2014, 14:08

lujo wrote:Hellbent, mana floded, mana screwed and some others basically happen all the time. Is it supposed to work like that?
How do you get both mana flooded and screwed at the same time?
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby lujo » 11 Oct 2014, 00:26

drdev wrote:
lujo wrote:Hellbent, mana floded, mana screwed and some others basically happen all the time. Is it supposed to work like that?
How do you get both mana flooded and screwed at the same time?
No, no, no, not at at the same time, but with achievements like that I get one almost every match. If they repeat after you achieve them once they kinda devalue the idea of an achievement (and, well, flavourful or not "winning with no cards in hand" is not much of an achievement XD You just play a longass groundstall game with anyone and topdeck your kill card... wooot...)
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Fizanko » 24 Oct 2014, 16:32

question about planeswalker achievement.
Do you need to win a round on the same turn you activated the "ultimate" of your planeswalker, or just activating it is enough as long as you win the round, even if it's several turns later ?
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby drdev » 24 Oct 2014, 18:02

Fizanko wrote:question about planeswalker achievement.
Do you need to win a round on the same turn you activated the "ultimate" of your planeswalker, or just activating it is enough as long as you win the round, even if it's several turns later ?
You don't have to win the same turn as the ultimate. You just need to win after having previously activated the ultimate that game, even if it was several turns earlier.
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Fizanko » 24 Oct 2014, 18:10

Thanks, so i guess it means that the achievement for Gideon Jura isn't working as i used all the 3 abilities for it without triggering the achievement

(the one for Gideon, Champion of Justice works )
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby Marek14 » 24 Oct 2014, 18:50

Fizanko wrote:Thanks, so i guess it means that the achievement for Gideon Jura isn't working as i used all the 3 abilities for it without triggering the achievement

(the one for Gideon, Champion of Justice works )
Problem with Gideon Jura is that none of its abilities can be really considered "ultimate"...
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Re: Achivement discussion

Postby drdev » 24 Oct 2014, 20:29

Marek14 wrote:
Fizanko wrote:Thanks, so i guess it means that the achievement for Gideon Jura isn't working as i used all the 3 abilities for it without triggering the achievement

(the one for Gideon, Champion of Justice works )
Problem with Gideon Jura is that none of its abilities can be really considered "ultimate"...
Yeah, it's probably just that none are flagged as "ultimate" in the code. I should probably just remove the achievement. Or at least re-work it so you have to win by dealing combat damage with him or something.
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