Shandalar Clone

by **bladescape** » 19 Oct 2010, 03:51

juzamjedi wrote:Dennis, battle for Wesnoth really is as awesome as it looks. I found that a few years back and played the heck out of that game, tons of fun and nice sprites indeed. If memory serves some of the campaigns have Dwarves, Trolls, etc. so you could definitely put together a nice dungeon map filled with all sorts of baddies.

Ahh, Battle For Wessy, I've had that for almost two years, I think.
Can't remember when I first got it, my brother and I decided to add an entirely new faction, and it worked out perfectly, until we tried to add sprites.
We aren't artists, although Abraham(My just younger brother) and Jaqob(My just older brother) are learning in that avenue.
Non-the-less, our project fell flat when we tried to update it to the newest version of Wesnoth, for some reason that we never fathomed, it didn't work.

Brilliant game anyway, indulge my moment of reminisence.

by **bladescape** » 19 Oct 2010, 04:00

DennisBergkamp wrote:Yes, I could use some help with those... if someone would be willing to spend time building themes (for specific creatures? Or perhaps for now something more generic?), I'll start coding functionality for this.

I could help there, if you aren't talking about actually doing a bit of programming, I'm only new at Java.
But if not, I could come up with a LONG list of themes!
And decks too if you want.

by **DennisBergkamp** » 19 Oct 2010, 05:51

Ah yes, Wesnoth is excellent... even with the little time I have these days, I still managed to finished a bunch of levels

Its music and its sprites are top notch, I feel a little bad "stealing" them for this project, but on the other hand I really like the way the map is starting to look.

As for help with the themes... this would be great.
The way encounters will work is deck generation through creature (or planeswalker) card - basically going off of Marek's ideas explained much earlier in the thread.
So for example, if the player would encounter a Raging Goblin, the deck played against would most likely be a mono red goblin deck, a Llanowar Elves would use a monogreen elven deck, etc. etc.

For now, we could just have a bunch of generic themes, for the rest of them we could use Rob's Deck generators.. so perhaps we could just create a green elven theme, a red goblin theme, a blue merfolk theme, white soldier theme, and some other very basic archetypes. We can always add more later.

by **bladescape** » 19 Oct 2010, 07:29

I don't really think you'll need all of the creature's that Marek had on his list, it just seems a few too many for me.
However, I could make theme's and decks for as many as I get around to.
Like Raging Goblin:Red Goblin Haste Deck, quite obviously built around the creature.
And then we could pick and choose creatures so we have a uniquely themed deck for each one, even if they're somewhat closely related themes.
I'll get back to you on what my younger brother and I get up to.

by **Chris H.** » 19 Oct 2010, 12:54

bladescape wrote:I don't really think you'll need all of the creature's that Marek had on his list, it just seems a few too many for me.
However, I could make theme's and decks for as many as I get around to.
Like Raging Goblin:Red Goblin Haste Deck, quite obviously built around the creature.
And then we could pick and choose creatures so we have a uniquely themed deck for each one, even if they're somewhat closely related themes.
I'll get back to you on what my younger brother and I get up to.

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We thank you for your offer to assist the project. A few themes and/or AI decks would be a great contribution. And a few new cards and/or bug fixes are also appreciated.

by **friarsol** » 19 Oct 2010, 13:58

bladescape wrote:I don't really think you'll need all of the creature's that Marek had on his list, it just seems a few too many for me.
However, I could make theme's and decks for as many as I get around to.
Like Raging Goblin:Red Goblin Haste Deck, quite obviously built around the creature.
And then we could pick and choose creatures so we have a uniquely themed deck for each one, even if they're somewhat closely related themes.
I'll get back to you on what my younger brother and I get up to.

Yea I agree that the amount of themes seemed overambitious. Even if we had 4 decks of each mono color, and 1-2 decks for each color pair, and one deck for each color trio that should work out well.

Creating the theme decks first and then tweaking them for which creature would use it is probably a good way to go.

by **DennisBergkamp** » 20 Oct 2010, 06:03

Yes exactly... anyway, I'll start working on this as soon as I can get my Eclipse up and running (just got a brand new laptop :mrgreen:

).

I seem to be getting compile errors though for some reason when copying over my local stuff...

by **Jaedayr** » 21 Oct 2010, 20:08

Here are some theme ideas that I have been playing with. Just throwing them out as suggestions, please feel free to ignore, modify, delete, enhance or otherwise make them better than they are.

Flying White

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=8] Darksteel Citadel Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kabira Crossroads Mutavault [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Aven Riftwatcher Aven Archer Aven Flock Battlewise Aven Aven Squire Aven Trailblazer Castle Raptors Dive Bomber Dragonstalker Soulcatcher [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=25] Angelic Wall Swords to Plowshares Valorous Charge Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Journey to Nowhere Wall of Swords Aven Brigadier Moat [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=1 Percentage=5] Ajani Goldmane Lieutenant Kirtar Commander Eesha Reya Dawnbringer Radiant, Archangel Windbrisk Raptor [/Group] End

Soldier White

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=8] Darksteel Citadel Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kabira Crossroads Mutavault Daru Encampment Forbidding Watchtower Kjeldoran Outpost [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Alaborn Musketeer Alaborn Trooper Alaborn Zealot Benalish Trapper Changeling Sentinel Eager Cadet Elite Vanguard Foot Soldiers Squire Veteran Armorsmith Veteran Swordsmith Volunteer Militia Field Marshal Preeminent Captain [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=25] Ballynock Cohort Rhox Pikemaster Standing Troops Staunch Defenders Swords to Plowshares Valorous Charge Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Journey to Nowhere Mobilization Order of Whiteclay [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=1 Percentage=5] Ajani Goldmane Elspeth Tirel Elspeth, Knight-Errant Commander Eesha Crovax, Ascendant Hero [/Group] End

Knight White

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=8] Darksteel Citadel Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kabira Crossroads Mutavault [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Alaborn Cavalier Benalish Cavalry Benalish Knight Capashen Knight Capashen Templar Charging Paladin Femeref Knight Knight Errant Knight of the White Orchid Lionheart Maverick Moorish Cavalry Order of Leitbur Silver Knight Sigiled Paladin Trokin High Guard Paladin en-Vec Order of the White Shield Defender of Law Veteran Cavalier White Knight Youthful Knight Zhalfirin Knight Northern Paladin Southern Paladin Knight of Meadowgrain [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=25] Swords to Plowshares Valorous Charge Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Journey to Nowhere Warrior's Charge Path to Exile Shared Triumph [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=1 Percentage=5] Knight Exemplar Kinsbaile Cavalier Mass Calcify Angelic Chorus [/Group] End

*edit modified the group of non-basic lands

by **Sloth** » 21 Oct 2010, 20:16

Jaedayr wrote:Here are some theme ideas that I have been playing with. Just throwing them out as suggestions, please feel free to ignore, modify, delete, enhance or otherwise make them better than they are.

Thank you for adding more themes Jaedayr.

Since the AI won't use cycling, all the nonbasic lands but Darksteel Citadel are strictly worse than normal Plains.
If you need examples for tribal decks look at the Goblin, Treefolk and Vampire deck in the res\quest\themes folder. I would always make a "lords" group and give them a high percentage, since they give the decks their synergies.

by **Marek14** » 21 Oct 2010, 20:21

In my terms, lords are the "engine", while the rank and file creatures are the "fuel"

by **Jaedayr** » 27 Oct 2010, 19:41

Two more themes to experiment with.

Kithkin Giant W

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=8] Darksteel Citadel Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kabira Crossroads Mutavault Daru Encampment Forbidding Watchtower Kjeldoran Outpost [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Amrou Kithkin Amrou Scout Amrou Seekers Apothecary Initiate Ballynock Trapper Ballyrush Banneret Battle Hurda Caravan Hurda Goldmeadow Dodger Goldmeadow Harrier Hillcomber Giant Ivory Guardians Kinsbaile Borderguard Kinsbaile Cavalier Kithkin Greatheart Kithkin Harbinger Kithkin Rabble Knight of Meadowgrain Mistmeadow Skulk Oathsworn Giant Order of the Golden Cricket Patrol Signaler Plover Knights Preeminent Captain Springjack Shepherd Wizened Cenn [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=25] Ballynock Cohort Order of Whiteclay Sun Titan Swords to Plowshares Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Journey to Nowhere [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=1 Percentage=5] Ajani Goldmane Elspeth Tirel Elspeth, Knight-Errant Crovax, Ascendant Hero [/Group] End

Clerics and Angels W
(mostly clerics)

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=8] Darksteel Citadel Emeria, the Sky Ruin Kabira Crossroads Mutavault Daru Encampment Forbidding Watchtower Kjeldoran Outpost [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Academy Rector Akroma's Devoted Auriok Champion Beloved Chaplain Blessed Orator Crimson Acolyte Death Speakers Disciple of Grace Disciple of Law Empty-Shrine Kannushi Exorcist Faith Healer Foothill Guide Fountain Watch Haazda Exonerator Icatian Priest Keepers of the Faith Mother of Runes Noble Templar Obsidian Acolyte Order of Leitbur Silent Attendant Soul Warden Soul's Attendant Temple Acolyte Teroh's Faithful Tireless Missionaries Venerable Monk War Priest of Thune Witch Hunter [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=25] Ancestor's Prophet Starlight Invoker Swords to Plowshares Glorious Anthem Honor of the Pure Journey to Nowhere Mass Calcify [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=1 Percentage=5] Akroma, Angel of Wrath Iona, Shield of Emeria Linvala, Keeper of Silence Radiant, Archangel Reya Dawnbringer [/Group] End

by **DennisBergkamp** » 27 Oct 2010, 23:32

Thanks Jaedyr! I'm still playing around with generating % of chance of what kind of enemy will spawn on a random encounter.
Once I'm done with that, I'll plug in these themes

by **bladescape** » 28 Oct 2010, 00:07

Red Goblin Haste Deck.
I've some others but putting them into .thm format isn't done yet.
Oh, and unlike Jaedayr, I've gone for only basic land!

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=30] Raging Goblin Mudbrawler Cohort Goblin Striker Goblin Chieftain Goblin Ringleader [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=3 Percentage=20] Goblin Chariot Goblin Guide Goblin Berserker Bloodmark Mentor Goblin King Warren Instigator [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=2 Percentage=15] Goblin Balloon Brigade Goblin Sky Raider Goblin Sledder Spitfire Handler [/Group] End

by **bladescape** » 28 Oct 2010, 00:11

Hmmm,I just realised that 15 percent may be too much for the last group....

by **Jaedayr** » 28 Oct 2010, 19:52

Infect BG theme, with a little wither and poison thrown in.

Code: Select all: BasicLandPercentage=34 [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=8] Bayou [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=4 Percentage=40] Blackcleave Goblin Blight Mamba Cinderbones Contagious Nim Corrosive Mentor Creakwood Liege Crypt Cobra Cystbearer Ichor Rats Ichorclaw Myr Juvenile Gloomwidow Lockjaw Snapper Marsh Viper Pit Scorpion Plague Stinger Rendclaw Trow Sickle Ripper Smoldering Butcher Suq'Ata Assassin Tel-Jilad Fallen Twinblade Slasher Vector Asp [/Group] [Group MaxCnt=2 Percentage=20] Wildslayer Elves Noxious Hatchling Blazethorn Scarecrow Thornwatch Scarecrow Carrion Call Snake Cult Initiation Putrefax Hand of the Praetors Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon [/Group] End

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