Card Development Questions

[Chris H.]

No Portal cards are linked on Wizards site. I forget what the newest place we've been using is.

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[friarsol]

Sorry Sol, I didn't see your post until after I read Lazylockie's. I thought Targeted$CardPower set the damage source, but if I understand you correctly, Targeted$CardPower only looks at the power of the targetted card but doesn't make the targetted card the source of the damage. I noticed Kiku, Night's Flower was added so I assumed otherwise, oh well...

Kiku is incorrect then. Targeted$ just says "Take this information from what I targeted, not from the what activated me" It will get the right number of damage, but the source will be incorrect. This is important when dealing with creatures with Protection and other similar effects.

[lazylockie]

Sorry Sol, I didn't see your post until after I read Lazylockie's. I thought Targeted$CardPower set the damage source, but if I understand you correctly, Targeted$CardPower only looks at the power of the targetted card but doesn't make the targetted card the source of the damage. I noticed Kiku, Night's Flower was added so I assumed otherwise, oh well...

Kiku is incorrect then. Targeted$ just says "Take this information from what I targeted, not from the what activated me" It will get the right number of damage, but the source will be incorrect. This is important when dealing with creatures with Protection and other similar effects.

I didn't know about that source damage thing when I made Kiku. Someone needs to un-commit her and Kiku's Shadow as well

[jeffwadsworth]

Is there a problem with having too many SVar variables? Or is the card script completely wrong?

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Name:Noetic Scales
ManaCost:4
Types:Artifact
Text:no text
T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | Execute$ TrigBounce | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | TriggerDescription$ Test Human
T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ Opponent | Execute$ TrigBounceAI | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Secondary$ True | TriggerDescription$ Test AI
SVar:TrigBounce:AB$ChangeZoneAll | Cost$ 0 | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Hand | ChangeType$ Creature.powerGEX | Defined$ You
SVar:TrigBounceAI:AB$ChangeZoneAll | Cost$ 0 | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Hand | ChangeType$ Creature.powerGEY | Defined$ Opponent
SVar:X:Count$InYourHand
SVar:Y:Count$InOppHand
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/noetic_scales.jpg
End



[friarsol]

I would recommend having more descriptive variables than X,Y,W,V. You'd kill some of the programmers with variables like that.

However, you don't use ChangeNum with ChangeZoneAll though. ALL of them are changing zone, why would you need to count how many that is?

So you'd just have X and Y, which is probably fine.

[jeffwadsworth]

@Sol, that is quite true. Yet, even the edited script in the original post still bombs.

[friarsol]

Oh, where you have the variable that is used in hasProperty() which is a little more restrictive to what variables you use. It expects that any variable that it receives be "X"; only the AFs which can call calculateAmount() currently are flexible to handle non-X variables. So this will probably have to wait until someone changes that part of the code to act like calculateAmount

[lazylockie]

Name:Gloryscale Viashino
ManaCost:1 R G W
Types:Creature Viashino Soldier
Text:no text
PT:3/3
T:Mode$ SpellCast | ValidCard$ Card.Multicolor+YouCtrl | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ TrigPump | TriggerDescription$ Whenever you cast a multicolored spell, CARDNAME gets +3/+3 until end of turn.
SVar:TrigPump:AB$Pump | Cost$ 0 | NumAtt$ +3 | NumDef$ +3 | Defined$ Self
SVar:BuffedBy:Card.Multicolor
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/gloryscale_viashino.jpg
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SetInfo:ARB|Uncommon|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/arb/120.jpg
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Card.Multicolor restriction isn't working. When I cast Lightning Helix, it doesn't trigger the dude. If I change to Card.nonMulticolor, Lightning Helix triggers the dude's pump. Anyone confirms?

[friarsol]

Try MultiColor (I have no idea why it's listed this way)

[lazylockie]

Try MultiColor (I have no idea why it's listed this way)

Thanks, that did the trick

[jeffwadsworth]

This test card isn't working. Anyone see an issue with the script?

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Name:Retromancer
ManaCost:2 R R
Types:Creature Viashino Shaman
Text:no text
PT:3/3
T:Mode$ SpellAbilityCast | TargetsValid$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigDamage | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME becomes the target of a spell or ability, CARDNAME deals 3 damage to that spell or ability's controller.
SVar:TrigDamage:AB$DealDamage | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ TriggeredController | NumDmg$ 3
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/retromancer.jpg
End


[Zirbert]

Do token-generating cards need a TokenImage$ parameter, or can the image be automatically determined based on the token's power / toughness / name? When I was scripting Flurry of Wings, I didn't include a TokenImage$ parameter, because I thought that the token generator I cribbed the code from didn't have one (I don't remember now which one I looked at). Now that I've looked at a lot more card scripts, I'm not so sure.

If they do need a TokenImage$ parameter, then I'd appreciate it if someone with commit status could add it to Flurry of Wings ( | TokenImage$ W 1 1 Bird Soldier |).

-Zirbert

[Chris H.]

Most tokens do not need the TokenImage$ parameter. There are a number of tokens that need to have different file names. The two 3/3 Wurm tokens for example. One has Deathtouch and the other has Lifelink printed on their token.

c_3_3_wurm_deathtouch.jpg
c_3_3_wurm_lifelink.jpg

[Hellfish]

AF_Token can usually figure out the token image filename on it's own but sometimes it needs the help of the TokenImage parameter. Unless the token's have keywords, the TokenImage parameter is usually not needed.

EDIT: Yeah, what Chris said

[Hellfish]

This test card isn't working. Anyone see an issue with the script?

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Name:Retromancer
ManaCost:2 R R
Types:Creature Viashino Shaman
Text:no text
PT:3/3
T:Mode$ SpellAbilityCast | TargetsValid$ Card.Self | Execute$ TrigDamage | TriggerDescription$ Whenever CARDNAME becomes the target of a spell or ability, CARDNAME deals 3 damage to that spell or ability's controller.
SVar:TrigDamage:AB$DealDamage | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ TriggeredController | NumDmg$ 3
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/retromancer.jpg
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No issue with the script, the trigger class was assuming that all SpellAbilities have Target objects. Such is not the case however. I fixed that and added the card! Thanks for the report.