Card Development Questions

[jeffwadsworth]

I could have sworn the correct way of activating an ability from Exile was simply ActivationZone$ Exile...

[friarsol]

I could have sworn the correct way of activating an ability from Exile was simply ActivationZone$ Exile...

Is something wrong with that? I'm pretty sure that should be right. The only thing I can think of is if the ActivationFrom code doesn't check cards in Exile. Post a sample card file.

[Sloth]

I could have sworn the correct way of activating an ability from Exile was simply ActivationZone$ Exile...

Is something wrong with that? I'm pretty sure that should be right. The only thing I can think of is if the ActivationFrom code doesn't check cards in Exile. Post a sample card file.

The question is: How can the player use an ability from exile?

[jeffwadsworth]

I could have sworn the correct way of activating an ability from Exile was simply ActivationZone$ Exile...

Is something wrong with that? I'm pretty sure that should be right. The only thing I can think of is if the ActivationFrom code doesn't check cards in Exile. Post a sample card file.

The question is: How can the player use an ability from exile?

The Interpreter strikes again!

[jeffwadsworth]

I could have sworn the correct way of activating an ability from Exile was simply ActivationZone$ Exile...

Is something wrong with that? I'm pretty sure that should be right. The only thing I can think of is if the ActivationFrom code doesn't check cards in Exile. Post a sample card file.

Script for Greater Gargadon

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Name:Greater Gargadon
ManaCost:9 R
Types:Creature Beast
Text:no text
PT:9/7
K:Suspend:10:R
A:AB$ RemoveCounter | Cost$ Sac<1/Artifact;Creature;Land> | CostDesc$ Sacrifice an artifact, creature, or land: | CounterType$ TIME | CounterNum$ 1 | ActivationZone$ Exile | IsPresent$ Card.countersGE1TIME+Self | PresentZone$ Exile | SpellDescription$ Remove a time counter from CARDNAME. Activate this ability only if CARDNAME is suspended.
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/greater_gargadon.jpg

[friarsol]

The question is: How can the player use an ability from exile?

Using the inappropriately named "Flashback" button? We should really figure out a better name since it really means "Abilities in non-Battlefield/Hand zones"

[jeffwadsworth]

Script for Sengir Nosferatu

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Name:Sengir Nosferatu
ManaCost:3 B B
Types:Creature Vampire
Text:no text
PT:4/4
K:Flying
A:AB$ Token | Cost$ 1 B Exile<1/CARDNAME> | TokenAmount$ 1 | TokenName$ Bat | TokenTypes$ Creature,Bat | TokenOwner$ You | TokenColors$ Black | TokenPower$ 1 | TokenToughness$ 2 | TokenKeywords$ Flying | TokenAbilities$ ABReturn | SpellDescription$ Put a 1/2 black Bat creature token with flying onto the battlefield. It has "1 B, Sacrifice this creature: Return an exiled card named CARDNAME to the battlefield under its owner's control."
SVar:ABReturn:AB$ChangeZone | Cost$ 1 B Sac<1/CARDNAME> | ChangeType$ Card.namedSengir Nosferatu | ChangeNum$ 1 | Origin$ Exile | Destination$ Battlefield | SpellDescription$ Return an exiled card named Sengir Nosferatu to the battlefield under its owner's control
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/sengir_nosferatu.jpg
End

When the ability on the Bat token is used, an NPE results.

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Version:
Forge -- official beta: $Date: 2011-01-06 10:34:48 -0600 (Thu, 06 Jan 2011) $, SVN revision: $Revision: 4891 $

OS: Windows 7 Version: 6.1 Architecture: amd64

Java Version: 1.6.0_22 Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.

Detailed error trace:
java.lang.NullPointerException
at forge.card.abilityFactory.AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.changeKnownOriginResolve(AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.java:1156)
at forge.card.abilityFactory.AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.changeZoneResolve(AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.java:193)
at forge.card.abilityFactory.AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.access$1(AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.java:185)
at forge.card.abilityFactory.AbilityFactory_ChangeZone$1.resolve(AbilityFactory_ChangeZone.java:42)
at forge.card.abilityFactory.AbilityFactory.resolve(AbilityFactory.java:1449)
at forge.MagicStack.resolveStack(MagicStack.java:693)
at forge.Phase.passPriority(Phase.java:527)
at forge.ComputerAI_General.stackResponse(ComputerAI_General.java:357)
at forge.ComputerAI_General.stack_not_empty(ComputerAI_General.java:305)
at forge.gui.input.InputControl.updateInput(InputControl.java:151)
at forge.GuiInput.update(GuiInput.java:21)
at java.util.Observable.notifyObservers(Unknown Source)
at java.util.Observable.notifyObservers(Unknown Source)
at forge.MyObservable.updateObservers(MyObservable.java:9)
at forge.gui.input.InputControl.resetInput(InputControl.java:58)
at forge.Phase.passPriority(Phase.java:516)
at forge.gui.input.Input_PassPriority.selectButtonOK(Input_PassPriority.java:42)
at forge.GuiInput.selectButtonOK(GuiInput.java:37)
at forge.GuiDisplay4.okButtonActionPerformed(GuiDisplay4.java:977)
at forge.GuiDisplay4.access$3(GuiDisplay4.java:976)
at forge.GuiDisplay4$28.actionPerformed(GuiDisplay4.java:764)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

[friarsol]

Regarding Sengir Nosferatu, did you try it with the Hidden flag on?

[jeffwadsworth]

Regarding Sengir Nosferatu, did you try it with the Hidden flag on?

That fixed it. I thought that was used in a different way. Thanks.

[friarsol]

Regarding Sengir Nosferatu, did you try it with the Hidden flag on?

That fixed it. I thought that was used in a different way. Thanks.

Hidden is for when the decision of "What is Changing Zones?" occurs during resolution. This is only necessary when the Origin Zone is Known Information and normally would require something to target.

[jeffwadsworth]

Cheers.

[Chris H.]

Voidmage Husher script

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Name:Voidmage Husher
ManaCost:3 U
Types:Creature Human Wizard
Text:no text
PT:2/2
K:Flash
T:Mode$ ChangesZone | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Origin$ Any | Destination$ Battlefield | Execute$ TrigCounter | TriggerDescription$ When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, counter target activated ability.
T:Mode$ SpellCast | ValidCard$ Card.YouCtrl | Execute$ TrigBounce | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | OptionalDecider$ You | TriggerDescription$ Whenever you cast a spell, you may return CARDNAME to its owner's hand.
SVar:TrigCounter:SP$Counter | Cost$ 0 | TargetType$ Activated | TgtPrompt$ Select target ability | ValidTgts$ Permanent
SVar:TrigBounce:SP$ChangeZone | Cost$ 0 | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Hand
SVar:Rarity:Uncommon
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/voidmage_husher.jpg
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When this is cast to counter an ability, it works, but Voidmage Husher ends up in the graveyard. Apparently, it is countering itself also? On a big side note, OptionalDecider$ appears to be broken. It doesn't work here or with Zealot il-Vec.

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SVar:TrigCounter:AB$Counter

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this might keep the Voidmage Husher in play?

[jeffwadsworth]

If Pump AB could use Remembered, we could script Erhnam Djinn. Forge just isn't the same without the guy.

| Open

Name:Erhnam Djinn
ManaCost:3 G
Types:Creature Djinn
Text:no text
PT:4/5
T:Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | Execute$ TrigPump | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | TriggerDescription$ At the beginning of your upkeep, target non-Wall creature an opponent controls gains forestwalk until your next upkeep.
SVar:TrigPump:AB$Pump | Cost$ 0 | ValidTgts$ Creature.nonWall+YouDontCtrl | TgtPrompt$ Select target non-Wall creature an opponent controls | KW$ Forestwalk | RememberTargets$ True | ForgetOtherTargets$ True | SubAbility$ DelTrig | Permanent$ True
SVar:DelTrig:DB$DelayedTrigger | Mode$ Phase | Phase$ Upkeep | ValidPlayer$ You | Execute$ TrigDebuff | SpellDescription$ Remove Forestwalk at your next upkeep.
SVar:TrigDebuff:AB$Debuff | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Remembered | KW$ Forestwalk | SpellDescription$ Remove Forestwalk.
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/erhnam_djinn.jpg
End

[friarsol]

Unfortunately, Erhnam isn't a delayed trigger. It's a Pump that wears off on the activators Next Upkeep. We would need to work it into a Duration parameter somehow.

[jeffwadsworth]

Cheers