does dmca push us further toward distributed rev control?

[jendave]

Can anyone do a pull from gitorious? I am getting "Permission Denied" errors. I have not changed anything. Strange.

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I am getting the same thing on my end. There is a link to Show Error Log displayed in the Problem Occurred dialog and this might make some sense to someone with more tech ability than myself.

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I am trying to do a pull from SmartGit. It displays the SSH Authentication dialog. The path to my Private Key File looks OK:

/Users/myaccount/.ssh/id_dsa

I type in my passphrase and click on Login and do this repeatedly. It is not being accepted. The SSH Authentication dialog is displayed once again and asks for the passphrase. I wonder if this is related to the recent problem with Eclipse not being able to do a pull.

Yes I got that too in SmartGit. I deleted my local repo, re-cloned and it now works for both cammond line and SmartGit

[Braids]

i'm getting the same problem. gitorious isn't allowing me to pull using SmartGit. command line git also fails. it thinks my dsa key is bad. there is no news of problems on the gitorious blog.

[Braids]

. . .

* it {subversion} has beautiful centralized rev numbers.

You want the version number to be more prominent in the bug reporting? Hex codes won't cut it.

right . . . which is why i listed it as an advantage of subversion over git.

* git is very fast.

Except when it can't merge and it surrounds the entirety of two versions of a file as changed, and I have to hunt down the differences. Then, I painfully weep, as I manually merge files I didn't even change in the first place....

EGit caused me great pains as well. did you have this experience with SmartGit? when it comes to remote repositories, EGit is horrible.

but, that gives svn another advantage:
* subclipse is better than egit.

* we have detailed documentation for using git. i do not know when i will have the personal energy necessary to document our subversion use to the same level of detail. someone else will probably have to do it.

Strangely, we never NEEDED this level of documentation for SVN. We're grateful for the effort, documentation is always the un-fun part.

most of you didn't need that level of documentation, no. but when i created that braids-minimax branch on my own, i messed it up pretty badly. fortunately the damage was isolated to that branch, and not the trunk. i could have branched in git much more easily.

* SmartGit is smart.

If they're so smart then why haven't they integrated into eclipse?

blame their business model.

because i do not know when my participation is going to taper off.

Think about how much time you've spent trying to make git work and documenting it. It's just distracting you from the fun stuff, coding up new functionality.

it's . . . not that simple. all i can say is, i doubt i'll be around in a year. what i can't say is, when exactly i will need to taper off and/or leave. i will try to unassign my Mantis issues and make a clean break, though.

besides, documentation can be rewarding if enough people read and use it.

edit - Dave, I don't know about permissions, but EGit caught an exception, but no clear description about why.

EGit is, in some ways, the quintessential "stupid git".

i'm getting the vibe that most devs don't really mind one way or the other. but there is one dev in particular who has strong opinions and sound logic. i am willing to try subversion again.

can we at least call the trunk {trunk} instead of {src} this time? slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/trunk/ is better than slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/src/.

[jendave]

i'm getting the vibe that most devs don't really mind one way or the other. but there is one dev in particular who has strong opinions and sound logic. i am willing to try subversion again.

Welcome back

can we at least call the trunk {trunk} instead of {src} this time? slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/trunk/ is better than slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/src/.

Yes! This is done already.

BTW, everyone, I am in the process of uploading the current source code into SVN. We are losing history however. Sorry, I have already spent several days on trying to get history in and I am cutting my losses. It will still take time to sort out svn:ignore svn:exec and such, but that is easy.

[jendave]

Rob, if I upload the Maven site to ftp.cardforge.org what is the http:// url I can access at? Also, once I get the SVN up to date, should I remove access to gitorious?

[Braids]

i'm getting the vibe that most devs don't really mind one way or the other. but there is one dev in particular who has strong opinions and sound logic. i am willing to try subversion again.

Welcome back

where did i go?

can we at least call the trunk {trunk} instead of {src} this time? slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/trunk/ is better than slightlymagic.net/svn/forge/src/.

Yes! This is done already.

thank you.

[Braids]

i'm getting the same problem. gitorious isn't allowing me to pull using SmartGit. command line git also fails. it thinks my dsa key is bad. there is no news of problems on the gitorious blog.

i edited {home}/.ssh/id_dsa.pub with a text edtior and replaced the last word at the end {DSA-1024} with my email address. i deleted my key on gitorious and resubmitted the modified one.

i was able to pull again without creating a new clone!

[Rob Cashwalker]

Rob, if I upload the Maven site to ftp.cardforge.org what is the http:// url I can access at? Also, once I get the SVN up to date, should I remove access to gitorious?

Everything uploaded by the releases user is in reference of "cardforge.org/releases/"

Yeah, I went to try to lock down the commit permission on gitorious, but the site is wonky and won't load the html elements that actually change permissions...

[jendave]

Rob, if I upload the Maven site to ftp.cardforge.org what is the http:// url I can access at? Also, once I get the SVN up to date, should I remove access to gitorious?

Everything uploaded by the releases user is in reference of "cardforge.org/releases/"

Yeah, I went to try to lock down the commit permission on gitorious, but the site is wonky and won't load the html elements that actually change permissions...

Thanks. I will update the pom.xml so that the Maven site publishes to cardforge.org.

[Braids]

i suspect it's faster partly because we're not using an encrypted (https/ssh) protocol.