SVN is ready - DO NOT USE GITORIOUS

[jendave]

/trunk/res/libs folder is missing in the new SVN - project can't be built without its dependencies.

The libs directory had files that were outdated. We use Maven to manage the dependencies.

Please follow the instructions to install MAven
http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge ... ild_System

[Doublestrike]

Uh, so I'm new here, getting my feet wet in this thing, with the eventual goal of cracking down on the GUI side of things.

I was following this guide http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge#Other_Useful_Eclipse_Plug-Ins to the letter. BTW great guide, extremely clear. (There's so much archived stuff on this site it's really hard to find what's going on without burning one's eyes out reading posts from years ago. )

I'm finally ready to clone the GIT repository and came on here - no more Gitorious, now using SVN? So, my install of eGit is superfluous, and the Maven is still valid? Is there an up-to-date guide I should be following?

In a semi-related question, the (old?) guide has a lot of optional Cygwin-related stuff. I don't use Cygwin yet but I can. Does the dev team here all use Cygwin? i.e. is Cygwin "strongly recommended" hint hint elbow elbow wink?

[Chris H.]

I was following this guide http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge#Other_Useful_Eclipse_Plug-Ins to the letter. BTW great guide, extremely clear. (There's so much archived stuff on this site it's really hard to find what's going on without burning one's eyes out reading posts from years ago. )

I'm finally ready to clone the GIT repository and came on here - no more Gitorious, now using SVN? So, my install of eGit is superfluous, and the Maven is still valid? Is there an up-to-date guide I should be following?

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You should already have Maven installed by following the Git instructions.

You will want to install subversion and subclipse. It looks like there are versons of subclipse that "match" a specific version of subversion.

Once you have the above portion installed it is then a matter of importing the Forge project into Eclipse. I put together some instructions for this portion today:

At the Workspace Launcher dialog select a new workspace for the SVN version of Forge.

Select the File -> Import... menu command.

At the Import dialog select SVN -> Checkout Projects from SVN. Click Next >.

At the Checkout from SVN dialog select the radio button Create a new repository location. Click Next >.

Paste in this Url "http://svn.slightlymagic.net/forge/trunk" into the text box labeled Location Url. Click Next >.

You are asked to select the folder to be checked out from SVN. Select the top level folder labeled "http://svn.slightlymagic.net/forge/trunk". Click Finish.

It will take some time to import the project. You will see your progress displayed in a dialog labeled SVN Checkout.

[friarsol]

In a semi-related question, the (old?) guide has a lot of optional Cygwin-related stuff. I don't use Cygwin yet but I can. Does the dev team here all use Cygwin? i.e. is Cygwin "strongly recommended" hint hint elbow elbow wink?

I have a Win7 box and do everything on the Windows side of things.
Personally, I'd rather use a VM than Cygwin if I really need to do some linux stuff. But it mostly depends on how capable your machine is.

[Braids]

Uh, so I'm new here, getting my feet wet in this thing, with the eventual goal of cracking down on the GUI side of things.

I was following this guide http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge#Other_Useful_Eclipse_Plug-Ins to the letter. BTW great guide, extremely clear. (There's so much archived stuff on this site it's really hard to find what's going on without burning one's eyes out reading posts from years ago. )

thank you for the compliment. i agree; a wiki lends itself better to document management than a forum. unfortunately, i am out of documentation steam after switching back to subversion. i have edited the guide you were using so that git is no longer used. i need someone to write the subversion stuff, though.

I'm finally ready to clone the GIT repository and came on here - no more Gitorious, now using SVN? So, my install of eGit is superfluous, and the Maven is still valid? Is there an up-to-date guide I should be following?

yes, use svn {subversion}. yes, egit is superfluous. yes, maven is still valid. no, sorry, there is no up to date guide.

In a semi-related question, the (old?) guide has a lot of optional Cygwin-related stuff. I don't use Cygwin yet but I can. Does the dev team here all use Cygwin? i.e. is Cygwin "strongly recommended" hint hint elbow elbow wink?

no, not at all. i've been trying to stick to eclipse based tools so the OS is less relevant for documentation. i wrote a lot of that guide, so that's why it might seemed biased. the truth is, i'm just trying to make sure fellow cygwinners are succeeding. i like cygwin a lot, but it has some quirks that require installing things differently.

oh, and don't bother installing SmartGit, either.

we recommend the Subclipse plugin for eclipse.

[Braids]

You will want to install subversion and subclipse. It looks like there are versons of subclipse that "match" a specific version of subversion.

Once you have the above portion installed it is then a matter of importing the Forge project into Eclipse. I put together some instructions for this portion today:

At the Workspace Launcher dialog select a new workspace for the SVN version of Forge.

Select the File -> Import... menu command.

At the Import dialog select SVN -> Checkout Projects from SVN. Click Next >.

At the Checkout from SVN dialog select the radio button Create a new repository location. Click Next >.

Paste in this Url "http://svn.slightlymagic.net/forge/trunk" into the text box labeled Location Url. Click Next >.

You are asked to select the folder to be checked out from SVN. Select the top level folder labeled "http://svn.slightlymagic.net/forge/trunk". Click Finish.

It will take some time to import the project. You will see your progress displayed in a dialog labeled SVN Checkout.

could someone update http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge with this info?

[Chris H.]

could someone update http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge with this info?

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I might take a look at adding the material. I do not want to remove your EGit work as there is a chance that we could decide to go back. Don't burn those bridges yet.

I do not want to make any promises though. It looks like adding a section at the top would do it. But I guess that we would want to have an either or type of set up. I may be getting in over my head. I will think about it.


EDIT:

I see that Braids has already set a torch to the bridge.

[Braids]

could someone update http://www.slightlymagic.net/wiki/Forge:How_to_Get_Started_Developing_Forge with this info?

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I might take a look at adding the material. I do not want to remove your EGit work as there is a chance that we could decide to go back. Don't burn those bridges yet.

the slightlymagic.net wiki uses wikimedia syntax, which means it supports comments that only appear when editing a page. these comments are in <!-- XML style --> . i commented out all the git-specific stuff.

besides, we can go back in history if an accidental deletion occurs.

I do not want to make any promises though. It looks like adding a section at the top would do it. But I guess that we would want to have an either or type of set up. I may be getting in over my head. I will think about it.

either or? section at the top? you know what, it doesn't matter. if it's more helpful than a TODO marker, go for it.

i already updated the earlier section to request access to the Forge developer group (or whatever it's called) in the user control panel here. i presume that grants svn commit access. if not, the section needs more editing.

EDIT: I see that Braids has already set a torch to the bridge.

nope, i just cast Invisibility on it. watch your step.

[Doublestrike]

OK thanks Braids and Chris H...I did see the SVN link but it sort of adds to the pile of confusion. Back to work!

BTW I used to be "steve" but I changed me name to something more appropriate...bam bam!

[Chris H.]

either or? section at the top? you know what, it doesn't matter. if it's more helpful than a TODO marker, go for it.

EDIT: I see that Braids has already set a torch to the bridge.

nope, i just cast Invisibility on it. watch your step.

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OK, I see that you are farther along in editing the wiki than I had realized. No problem.

I can add my material to the TODO section when you are ready. I do not want to step on your edits to the wiki. I can wait until you are ready.

[Braids]

OK, I see that you are farther along in editing the wiki than I had realized. No problem.

I can add my material to the TODO section when you are ready. I do not want to step on your edits to the wiki. I can wait until you are ready.

go right ahead. i'm surprised i had the fortitude to edit what i did.

switching gears, in reverse order. going from 2nd to 1st:

OK thanks Braids and Chris H...I did see the SVN link but it sort of adds to the pile of confusion. Back to work!

you're welcome, and i hope your confusion does not last.

BTW I used to be "steve" but I changed me name to something more appropriate...bam bam!

i was thinking on one side of my braided brain, that there seemed to be an awful lot of new developer buzz about the gui. your existence makes so much more sense now.

[Chris H.]

go right ahead. i'm surprised i had the fortitude to edit what i did.

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Thank you for the help. I finished adding in the checkout the forge project material.

I noticed the commented out Git instructions.

[Doublestrike]

I have a Win7 box and do everything on the Windows side of things.
Personally, I'd rather use a VM than Cygwin if I really need to do some linux stuff. But it mostly depends on how capable your machine is.

OK thanks for the info.

I've set up a fully portable dev environment on my flash drive - JDK and Eclipse in x86 or x64 flavors depending on the box I'm plugged into. Next is integrating all of the Forge tools into the drive.

If I'm successful and if it's needed, I could volunteer to write a wiki on how this is done, with my batch file kickstart included.

awful lot of new developer buzz about the gui

I'm pretty stoked on this, I think Forge is the best thing going right now and I'm looking forward to getting to the point of contributing something that is actually helpful.

And when I say best thing going, I mean better than Pop Tarts, Unicorns, and DOTP.

Edit
If it helps anyone new, here's a(nother?) guide to installing Subclipse: http://www.rose-hulman.edu/class/csse/r ... lation.htm

[jeffwadsworth]

When I try to execute the /forge/trunk/target/forge-1.1.2-SNAPSHOT-jar-with-dependencies.jar, nothing happens. Is anyone else having this issue? The project builds successfully, etc, even though my beloved "Run as Java application" is gone.

[Chris H.]

When I try to execute the /forge/trunk/target/forge-1.1.2-SNAPSHOT-jar-with-dependencies.jar, nothing happens. Is anyone else having this issue?

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I updated to rev 9752 and tried to run forge as a java app from within Eclipse and get the following error message seen in the Console view:

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Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: forge/Gui_NewGame
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: forge.Gui_NewGame
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)

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I was able to get a forge-1.1.2-SNAPSHOT-jar-with-dependencies.jar using Maven in rev 9750 and that works OK.
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The project builds successfully, etc, even though my beloved "Run as Java application" is gone.

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I have all of the run options listed on my copy. I did have a problem yesterday but it looks like Eclipse opened a Prospective that contained External Tools and little/nothing else in the run menu.