Forge Beta: 08-19-2011 ver 1.1.2 rev 9812

[Almost_Clever]

this one is minor. my opponent cast Scourge of the Nobilis {SotN} on its Duergar Hedge-Mage {DHM}, {DHM's text is irrelevant. the fact that it is red is important, though.} technically, SotN confers its Firebreathing -like ability to the creature it enchants, so the text "RW: This creature gets +1/+0 until end of turn" should be added to the creature itself. i should see this when i hover over the DHM, yes? instead i'm guessing it acts like Firebreathing, which doesn't add text to its enchantee in this manner.

is this even important?

Could be. If you had an Intrepid Hero or Big Game Hunter and wanted to get rid of a low-powered creature your opponent controlled, you could use Firebreathing to pump its power up to four in order to destroy it, but you should only be able to pump up red or white creatures (and R/W creatures by two) with Scourge of the Nobilis and would need your opponent to pump up its red creature more.
A vanilla creature enchanted with Firebreathing should still get +2/+2 from Muraganda Petroglyphs while a red or white vanilla creature enchanted with Scourge of the Nobilis would not.
Also, not in Forge, but I believe Humility (and its Humble relatives) played after the aura turns off the pumping ability of Scourge of the Nobilis but not Firebreathing.

[DeadSpeak]

Hi everyone,

Testing out Mimic Vat... the token it creates, doesn't get exiled at the beginning of the nex end step as the card says... almost doesn't.

I killed my Solemn Simulacrum in the "end of turn" phase of my opponents turn. It got exiled by Mimic Vat and I activated Mimic Vat in the same phase, creating a Solemn Simulacrum token. Because I did all of this in the "end of turn" phase, which is after "the beginning of the end step" I sidestep Mimic Vat's "exile token at the beginning of the next end step" clause. However, that token should still be exiled at "the beginning of the next step" in my turn... It did not.

I tried creating a token in my own turn, that got exiled just fine.

Edit:
Just found out that if you go to game 2, after having a Mimic Vat in play in game 1, Mimic Vat still triggers when a non-token permanent is put into the graveyard. Even though Mimic Vit is not in play.


Keep up the great work...

- DeadSpeak

[Braids]

Just found out that if you go to game 2, after having a Mimic Vat in play in game 1, Mimic Vat still triggers when a non-token permanent is put into the graveyard. Even though Mimic Vit is not in play. . . Keep up the great work. . .

thanks for the encouragement.

this particular issue, where a card's effects last between games, is evidence of a bigger problem.

[Braids]

This was emailed to me:

. . .
So, after trying to figure out what was causing the issue from this message's subject title in version 1.1.1, I traced the error on my computer to be res/gui/display_new_layout.xml. The problem occurs after I've already played a game and closed the window, the file gets overwritten by a lot of new code (and a straight diff wasn't particularly helpful in figuring out what was added) which then causes the error when starting a second game.

i know this is a delayed reaction, but thank you, mtgrares! and please thank whoever emailed you. this really helped with the diagnosis!

[kerbythepurplecow]

Looks like Flamebreak is still hitting everything for 4.

[johncpatterson]

Love the new version! The starting proportions of the game screen were kinda weird - had to bring in the card description from off-screen - but the game's working nicely and glitch-free, at least as far as I've gotten. Love the addition of Mimic Vat, as well as Open the Vaults (never thought I'd see that fixed... it couldn't have been easy). Great job as usual, guys.

As in the previous version, I can't seem to resize the panels on the left (the rest are easily resized). Anybody know how we can?

[Chris H.]

I noticed a similar situation on my 24" wide screen monitor. The newest version on the SVN has a different and more balanced type of layout.

[Accountancy]

Love the updates, my only problem is with the deck generator. There used to be the option to choose between the original and newer random decks (the original was singleton non-land cards and more dual lands), but now there's only one option, which means if I do want to play a completely random deck and have the computer use a semi-random theme deck, I have to play a deck with very few dual lands and some of the cards get repeated a lot, one game I started with 3 Farseek and just now I got 2 Argivian Blacksmith... Fun!
If possible, I would love it if the decks were a bit more random and had an option for singleton play or no singleton play. Also I would love it if there was a wider spread of lands, a man can get a bit sick of shock-lands and basics all the time. Is there any way to give a deck 2-3 of each basic it needs, 5-10 in colour non-basics and 1-5 random non-basic (excluding off-colour)?

[Sloth]

Love the updates, my only problem is with the deck generator. There used to be the option to choose between the original and newer random decks (the original was singleton non-land cards and more dual lands), but now there's only one option, which means if I do want to play a completely random deck and have the computer use a semi-random theme deck, I have to play a deck with very few dual lands and some of the cards get repeated a lot, one game I started with 3 Farseek and just now I got 2 Argivian Blacksmith... Fun!
If possible, I would love it if the decks were a bit more random and had an option for singleton play or no singleton play. Also I would love it if there was a wider spread of lands, a man can get a bit sick of shock-lands and basics all the time. Is there any way to give a deck 2-3 of each basic it needs, 5-10 in colour non-basics and 1-5 random non-basic (excluding off-colour)?

I also liked the old random deck generator more. I haven't seen any discussion about this anywhere. Why was it removed?

[moomarc]

I haven't seen any discussion about this anywhere. Why was it removed?

It was a rather brief discussion at Deck Generation Code while you were away on vacation.

[timmermac]

Mistform Stalker comes into play as a 3/3 and doesn't change to a 1/1 at the end of my turn. Neither the computer nor I have anything in play that would turn the Stalker into a 3/3. screenshot attached.

[Sloth]

:!: Mistform Stalker comes into play as a 3/3 and doesn't change to a 1/1 at the end of my turn. Neither the computer nor I have anything in play that would turn the Stalker into a 3/3. screenshot attached.

Already fixed. Thanks timmermac.

[Accountancy]

Just wondering, what's the simplest way to get art for all the tokens?

[Chris H.]

Just wondering, what's the simplest way to get art for all the tokens?

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There is an archive of HQ token jpgs at http://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4664#p4664

[moomarc]

Just wondering, what's the simplest way to get art for all the tokens?

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There is an archive of HQ token jpgs at http://www.slightlymagic.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4664#p4664

images downloaded there will still need to be renamed according to Forge's token naming convention though.