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XLHQ Pics Test
by Huggybaby » 14 Oct 2008, 04:48
Extra Large HQ Pics
The 21st Century has arrived, so why not new pics for better proxies, larger monitors and larger hard drives?
Is it too much, too soon? Is it an answer to a question that no one has asked, and never will?
Tell me what you think.
CCGHQ MTG PS (Planeshift) XLFulls 101408.zip (39.75 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mhtkzlzywjy -or-
http://rapidshare.com/files/153801115/C ... 101408.zip
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The 21st Century has arrived, so why not new pics for better proxies, larger monitors and larger hard drives?
Is it too much, too soon? Is it an answer to a question that no one has asked, and never will?
Tell me what you think.
CCGHQ MTG PS (Planeshift) XLFulls 101408.zip (39.75 MB)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mhtkzlzywjy -or-
http://rapidshare.com/files/153801115/C ... 101408.zip
CLICK ME:

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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by jasonx73it » 14 Oct 2008, 07:50
I'm game for XLHQ pics but after watching these PS scans I was left quite puzzled. I always thought bigger would mean better but what I see here is a kinda blurry washed out card. If I resize the XLHQ I get almost the same HQ card I already have. It looks like the HQ has been resized in Photoshop: it's virtually the same card but a little blurrier. The copyright notice isn't clearer and sharper and neither is the image.Huggybaby wrote:Tell me what you think.
Here's what I get enlarging the HQ in Photoshop and resizing the XLHQ. Of course the HQ enlarged is blurrier but the same is with the XLHQ resized (ok, I didn't sharpen the images but I hope you get my point: I don't see it as much as an improvement as I thought it would be. Am I missing someting?
Enlarged HQ on the left

Resized XLHQ on the left

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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by extreme » 14 Oct 2008, 08:28
man, are you blind ?
look at this:


the right half is the regular hq upscaled to match the new one. The difference in sharpness is tremendous. Look at the copyright.
Are you watching them at 100% ? This might be another thing,
And how the hell do you compare images by sizing DOWN ???
look at this:


the right half is the regular hq upscaled to match the new one. The difference in sharpness is tremendous. Look at the copyright.
Are you watching them at 100% ? This might be another thing,
And how the hell do you compare images by sizing DOWN ???
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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by temik » 14 Oct 2008, 08:29
Higher quality is (almost always) better. But I suspect XLHQ cards will need more post-processing since printing patterns become visible. 

Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by Snacko » 14 Oct 2008, 08:33
It all depends on the resizer used some sharpen the images and some blur it.
I suppose at this size the printing patter isn't so obvious yet, it all comes down to blurry & smooth, or "detailed" with patterns and/or jaggies.
Personally I like the higher resolution.
I suppose at this size the printing patter isn't so obvious yet, it all comes down to blurry & smooth, or "detailed" with patterns and/or jaggies.
Personally I like the higher resolution.
Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by extreme » 14 Oct 2008, 08:46
you gain a little bit of smoothness by gaussian blurring before resizing and unsharp masking after. But it doesn't get much better than this. Don't forget it's a very small card, and it's already printed with a very fine pattern (you should see Beta...). Also, latter cards seem to have an even smaller raster - look:




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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by The Scientist » 14 Oct 2008, 09:06
I like it extreme. Filesize isn't a problem these days. Not sure if I would really use these for proxy printing though, maybe I will.
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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by jasonx73it » 14 Oct 2008, 09:09
Uh, I get it now. It's the scaling. If I don't watch the card at 100% on my monitor it's blurry. D'oh!
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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by A.R. » 14 Oct 2008, 09:40
Am I right, yo don't need to rescan the cards for this - just to resize "x-raws"?
Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by extreme » 14 Oct 2008, 10:16
that's the good news, yup 

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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by A.R. » 14 Oct 2008, 14:48
In that case, it may be a good idea to gradually replace all "old" HQ scans - I hope sooner or later PresetM will scan all the missing cards 
Also I like the idea to display the full border (now it's much more sense to have both Alpha and Beta scans, for example).

Also I like the idea to display the full border (now it's much more sense to have both Alpha and Beta scans, for example).
Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by extreme » 14 Oct 2008, 15:09
yup, but they are not very usable for mws with full borders.
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Re: XLHQ Pics Test
by jasonx73it » 14 Oct 2008, 17:55
we could use HQ with mws and keep the XLHQ as the best possible scan with full borders.
and yeah Alpha and Beta with full borders!
and yeah Alpha and Beta with full borders!

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