Magic Data

[Max mtg]

Arch, please note that they HAVE added the color indicator field, which holds a color to use instead of the one derived from card's face manacost (if any)

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... eid=221212

[Arch]

Updated, see first post.

[Max mtg]

Thanks a lot, Arch!

I've been working with the xml you've provided. It turned out, that some cards described in cards.xml are not linked to any set via meta.xml. I failed to find them on gatherer or magiccards.info too. Where did they come from?

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Arden Angel
Ashuza's Breath
Aswan Jaguar
Call from the Grave
Camato Scout
Celestine Reef
Drench the Soil in Their Blood
Faerie Dragon
Gem Bazaar
Goblin Polka Band
Hapato's Might
Horizon Boughs
Imprison This Insolent Wretch
Lydari Druid
Lydari Elephant
Mirrored Depths
Murgish Cemetery
Necropolis of Azar
Orcish Catapult
Pandora's Box
Perhaps You've Met My Cohort
Plots That Span Centuries
Power Struggle
Prismatic Dragon
Rainbow Knights
Saji's Torrent
Tember City
Tornellan Protector
Velican Dragon
Whimsy
Your Inescapable Doom


[MageKing17]

I've been working with the xml you've provided. It turned out, that some cards described in cards.xml are not linked to any set via meta.xml. I failed to find them on gatherer or magiccards.info too. Where did they come from?

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Arden Angel
Ashuza's Breath
Aswan Jaguar
Call from the Grave
Camato Scout
Celestine Reef
Drench the Soil in Their Blood
Faerie Dragon
Gem Bazaar
Goblin Polka Band
Hapato's Might
Horizon Boughs
Imprison This Insolent Wretch
Lydari Druid
Lydari Elephant
Mirrored Depths
Murgish Cemetery
Necropolis of Azar
Orcish Catapult
Pandora's Box
Perhaps You've Met My Cohort
Plots That Span Centuries
Power Struggle
Prismatic Dragon
Rainbow Knights
Saji's Torrent
Tember City
Tornellan Protector
Velican Dragon
Whimsy
Your Inescapable Doom


Aswan Jaguar, Call from the Grave, Faerie Dragon, Gem Bazaar, Goblin Polka Band, Necropolis of Azar, Orcish Catapult, Pandora's Box, Power Struggle, Prismatic Dragon, Rainbow Knights, and Whimsy are from the Microprose game. Drench The Soil in Their Blood, Imprison This Insolent Wretch, Perhaps You've Met My Cohort, Plots That Span Centuries, and Your Inescapable Doom are Archenemy cards that weren't released with the actual Archenemy set. Arden Angel, Ashuza's Breath, Comato Scout, Hapato's Might, Lydari Druid, Lydari Elephant, Murgish Cemetary, Saji's Torrent, Tornellan Protector, and Velican Dragon are from the Dreamcast game.

[Max mtg]

I am not sure if these cards should be present in XML, since even gatherer does not support them.

[Huggybaby]

Well, it is called Magic Data, not Gatherer Data.

[Arch]

I am not sure if these cards should be present in XML, since even gatherer does not support them.

I could see some arguments for removing the dreamcast and microprose cards as they don't seem to be recognized in general. The archenemy cards will definitely stay as well as the planechase cards. (Pretty sure there's some promo planes in there.)

I'm not going to remove anything without a good reason though. There would basically have to be a negative impact on the data for me to do that. That gatherer is not supporting them is not good enough.

[Huggybaby]

That's a good decision, in line with our document-everything-then-take-what-you-need philosophy.

[Max mtg]

Some of these cards were disobeying common magic grammar rules, so I removed them from (my local) parsing anyway.

[MageKing17]

Some of these cards were disobeying common magic grammar rules, so I removed them from (my local) parsing anyway.

I think all of the Microprose and Dreamcast cards disobey common magic grammar rules (a.k.a. "templating") because they weren't created by Wizards of the Coast, were written a long time ago, and haven't been updated because they're not a part of their database.

[silly freak]

to resolve this issue, what about abbing some kind of <source> to the data, which is generally gatherer, but might be microprose or some other? this would enable filtering and hopefully make everyone happy...

[Marek14]

Some of these cards were disobeying common magic grammar rules, so I removed them from (my local) parsing anyway.

I think all of the Microprose and Dreamcast cards disobey common magic grammar rules (a.k.a. "templating") because they weren't created by Wizards of the Coast, were written a long time ago, and haven't been updated because they're not a part of their database.

Actually, *I* have tried to update them - but it doesn't always get the best results, since sometimes I need to guess at the intended functionality... and I don't have any specific data about how Faerie Dragon and Whimsy are supposed to be working, I only managed to find a list of effects and when I asked about the algorithms at Manalink part of the forums, they realized that I'm crazy

[Max mtg]

to resolve this issue, what about abbing some kind of <source> to the data, which is generally gatherer, but might be microprose or some other? this would enable filtering and hopefully make everyone happy...

It would be enough just to bind those cards to their respective sets (add some lines to meta.xml), one of those sets is ASTRAL... other ones can be also found with some help from more dedicated players.
So that users of XML would be aware that cards from certain sets are not suppoted by Wizards.

[Arch]

It would be enough just to bind those cards to their respective sets (add some lines to meta.xml), one of those sets is ASTRAL... other ones can be also found with some help from more dedicated players.
So that users of XML would be aware that cards from certain sets are not suppoted by Wizards.

This is how it should be done. Astral and Dreamcast are already part of the setinfo.xml but I guess that the mapping I'm doing doesn't properly match these cards. I'll add that to the buglist.

[Max mtg]

Found another potential bug - card name is Planeswalker's Mischief.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... seid=25887

The text "(If it has X in its mana cost, X is 0.)" is written in italics on gatherer and is a general hint on rules, and therefore it should go to rules reminder instead of being kept in the rule body.
Thanks.