Card Development Questions

[friarsol]

Soulstorm and Marc,

Did anyone try SubCounter<All/P1P1> and CostCountersRemoved as the SVar?

[SoulStorm]

Soulstorm and Marc,

Did anyone try SubCounter<All/P1P1> and CostCountersRemoved as the SVar?

No, didn't even know you could do that. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

[friarsol]

Soulstorm and Marc,

Did anyone try SubCounter<All/P1P1> and CostCountersRemoved as the SVar?

No, didn't even know you could do that. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

I see it in the code, not sure if it's copied over for the StackInstance. At least that's how it will be available if it doesn't quite work now.

[moomarc]

Soulstorm and Marc,

Did anyone try SubCounter<All/P1P1> and CostCountersRemoved as the SVar?

No, didn't even know you could do that. I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

I see it in the code, not sure if it's copied over for the StackInstance. At least that's how it will be available if it doesn't quite work now.

The 'All' variable's a new one for me to. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work yet. Tried all the variations I could think of:

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SVar:X:CostCountersRemoved
SVar:X:CostCountersRemoved$Amount
SVar:X:Count$CostCountersRemoved
SVar:X:Number$CostCountersRemoved

All do nothing except Number which gives an input string error. Is there anything else to try or is it something on the code side that isn't wrapped up? (Edit: Just in case I made a stupid error elsewhere, here's the full script:)

| Open

Name:Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
ManaCost:4 W B B
Types:Legendary Creature Vampire
Text:no text
PT:5/5
K:Flying
K:Lifelink
A:AB$ PutCounter | Cost$ Sac<1/Creature> | Defined$ Self | CounterType$ P1P1 | CounterNum$ Y | SpellDescription$ Put X +1/+1 counters on CARDNAME, where X is the sacrificed creature's power.
A:AB$ Pump | Cost$ SubCounter<All/P1P1> | CostDesc$ Remove all +1/+1 counters from Vish Kal: | ValidTgts$ Creature | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature | NumAtt$ -X | NumDef$ -X | IsCurse$ True | SpellDescription$ Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each +1/+1 counter removed this way.
SVar:Y:Sacrificed$CardPower
SVar:X:CostCountersRemoved$Amount
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/vish_kal_blood_arbiter.jpg
SetInfo:COM|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/cmd/234.jpg
Oracle:Flying, lifelink\nSacrifice a creature: Put X +1/+1 counters on Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter, where X is the sacrificed creature's power.\nRemove all +1/+1 counters from Vish Kal: Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each +1/+1 counter removed this way.
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[SoulStorm]

Assuming I understood your instructions correctly, it doesn't work. The counters are removed, but nothing happens to the target. Here's the script in case I did something wrong.

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Name:Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter
ManaCost:4 W B B
Types:Legendary Creature Vampire
Text:no text
PT:5/5
K:Flying
K:Lifelink
A:AB$PutCounter | Cost$ Sac<1/Creature> | Defined$ Self | CounterType$ P1P1 | CounterNum$ Y | SpellDescription$ Put X +1/+1 counters on Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter, where X is the sacrificed creature's power.
A:AB$ Pump | Cost$ SubCounter<All/P1P1> | ValidTgts$ Creature | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature | NumAtt$ -X | NumDef$ -X | SpellDescription$ Remove all +1/+1 counters from Vish Kal: Target creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn for each +1/+1 counter removed this way.
SVar:Y:Sacrificed$CardPower
SVar:X:CostCountersRemoved
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:RemRandomDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/vish_kal_blood_arbiter.jpg
End

[Hellfish]

AFAICT, the CostRemoveCounter class puts the amount of counters removed in a new SVar called CostCountersRemoved as a simple Number$. So the correct way to access it would be

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SVar:X:SVar$CostCountersRemoved


or, for a more direct/less clear way(or just more direct ), reference CostCountersRemoved directly in the abilities instead of X.

[SoulStorm]

AFAICT, the CostRemoveCounter class puts the amount of counters removed in a new SVar called CostCountersRemoved as a simple Number$. So the correct way to access it would be

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SVar:X:SVar$CostCountersRemoved


or, for a more direct/less clear way(or just more direct ), reference CostCountersRemoved directly in the abilities instead of X.

Works perfectly Hellfish, many thanks!

[friarsol]

Yea, sorry if I wasn't clear: the direct way Hellfish mentions is what I meant by just using CostCountersRemoved for your SVar.

"All" isn't really a variable. When I re-did the costs, amounts now come in as strings, which can be special (such as All here) or an SVar to be referenced further in the code, or just a number as most cases.

[jeffwadsworth]

Testing Brand of Ill Omen. Does Caster$ support EnchantedController?

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Name:Brand of Ill Omen
ManaCost:3 R
Types:Enchantment Aura
Text:no text
K:Cumulative upkeep:R
A:SP$ Attach | Cost$ 3 R | ValidTgts$ Creature | AILogic$ Curse
S:Mode$ CantBeCast | ValidCard$ Creature | Caster$ EnchantedController | Description$ Enchanted creature's controller can't cast creature spells.
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/brand_of_ill_omen.jpg
End

[Sloth]

Testing Brand of Ill Omen. Does Caster$ support EnchantedController?

| Open

Name:Brand of Ill Omen
ManaCost:3 R
Types:Enchantment Aura
Text:no text
K:Cumulative upkeep:R
A:SP$ Attach | Cost$ 3 R | ValidTgts$ Creature | AILogic$ Curse
S:Mode$ CantBeCast | ValidCard$ Creature | Caster$ EnchantedController | Description$ Enchanted creature's controller can't cast creature spells.
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/brand_of_ill_omen.jpg
End

Not yet...

Finished and added your Brand of Ill Omen (which was my test object).

[jeffwadsworth]

Testing one of the ugliest cards in magic...Phantasmal Mount.

| Open

Name:Phantasmal Mount
ManaCost:1 U
Types:Creature Illusion Horse
Text:no text
PT:1/1
K:Flying
A:AB$ Pump | Cost$ T | ValidTgts$ Creature.YouCtrl+toughnessLE2 | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature you control with toughness 2 or less | RememberTargets$ True | KW$ Flying | NumAtt$ 1 | NumDef$ 1 | SubAbility$ DBAnimate | SpellDescription$ Target creature you control with toughness 2 or less gets +1/+1 and gains flying until end of turn. When CARDNAME leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice that creature. When the creature leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice CARDNAME.
SVar:DBAnimate:DB$ Animate | Triggers$ TrigLeavesPlayPM,TrigLeavesPlayCreature | sVars$ TrigSacCreature,TrigSacPM,DBCleanup
SVar:TrigLeavesPlayPM:Mode$ ChangesZone | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Any | Execute$ TrigSacCreature | TriggerDescription$ When CARDNAME leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice that creature.
SVar:TrigSacCreature:AB$ Destroy | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Card.IsRemembered | Sacrifice$ True | SubAbility$ DBCleanup
SVar:TrigLeavesPlayCreature:Mode$ ChangesZone | ValidCard$ Card.IsRemembered | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Any | Execute$ TrigSacPM | TriggerDescription$ When the creature leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice CARDNAME.
SVar:TrigSacPM:AB$ Destroy | Cost$ 0 | Sacrifice$ True
SVar:DBCleanup:DB$ Cleanup | ClearRemembered$ True
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/phantasmal_mount.jpg
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This works fine if the targeted creature changes zones, but if the Phantasmal Mount changes zones, the trigger does not fire. Does someone spot the problem? It is Friday and my eyes are getting blurry.

[Sloth]

Testing one of the ugliest cards in magic...Phantasmal Mount.

| Open

Name:Phantasmal Mount
ManaCost:1 U
Types:Creature Illusion Horse
Text:no text
PT:1/1
K:Flying
A:AB$ Pump | Cost$ T | ValidTgts$ Creature.YouCtrl+toughnessLE2 | TgtPrompt$ Select target creature you control with toughness 2 or less | RememberTargets$ True | KW$ Flying | NumAtt$ 1 | NumDef$ 1 | SubAbility$ DBAnimate | SpellDescription$ Target creature you control with toughness 2 or less gets +1/+1 and gains flying until end of turn. When CARDNAME leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice that creature. When the creature leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice CARDNAME.
SVar:DBAnimate:DB$ Animate | Triggers$ TrigLeavesPlayPM,TrigLeavesPlayCreature | sVars$ TrigSacCreature,TrigSacPM,DBCleanup
SVar:TrigLeavesPlayPM:Mode$ ChangesZone | ValidCard$ Card.Self | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Any | Execute$ TrigSacCreature | TriggerDescription$ When CARDNAME leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice that creature.
SVar:TrigSacCreature:AB$ Destroy | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Card.IsRemembered | Sacrifice$ True | SubAbility$ DBCleanup
SVar:TrigLeavesPlayCreature:Mode$ ChangesZone | ValidCard$ Card.IsRemembered | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Any | Execute$ TrigSacPM | TriggerDescription$ When the creature leaves the battlefield this turn, sacrifice CARDNAME.
SVar:TrigSacPM:AB$ Destroy | Cost$ 0 | Sacrifice$ True
SVar:DBCleanup:DB$ Cleanup | ClearRemembered$ True
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/phantasmal_mount.jpg
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This works fine if the targeted creature changes zones, but if the Phantasmal Mount changes zones, the trigger does not fire. Does someone spot the problem? It is Friday and my eyes are getting blurry.

Does the trigger not fire or does it fire and nothing happens?

Anyway, this line is incorrect:

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SVar:TrigSacCreature:AB$ Destroy | Cost$ 0 | Defined$ Card.IsRemembered | Sacrifice$ True | SubAbility$ DBCleanup

Defined and Card.IsRemembered will not work together. It has to be "Defined$ Remembered".

[squee1968]

Hello, Devs.

I believe I have a card to contribute. Surgespanner. I've playtested it, and it seems like it's working ok, except the card picture doesn't show for some reason after downloading it.

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Name:Surgespanner
ManaCost:2 U U
Types:Creature Merfolk Wizard
Text:no text
PT:2/2
T:Mode$ Taps | ValidCard$ Card.Self | OptionalDecider$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ TrigBounce | TriggerDescription$ Whenever Surgespanner becomes tapped, you may pay 1U. If you do, return target permanent to its owner’s hand.
SVar:TrigBounce:AB$ChangeZone | Cost$ 1 U | ValidTgts$ Permanent | TgtPrompt$ Select target permanent | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Hand
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/surgespanner.jpg
SetInfo:LRW|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/lw/92.jpg
Oracle:Whenever Surgespanner becomes tapped, you may pay 1U. If you do, return target permanent to its owner's hand.
End

Feel free to fix and add to Forge.

[Sloth]

Hello, Devs.

I believe I have a card to contribute. Surgespanner. I've playtested it, and it seems like it's working ok, except the card picture doesn't show for some reason after downloading it.

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Name:Surgespanner
ManaCost:2 U U
Types:Creature Merfolk Wizard
Text:no text
PT:2/2
T:Mode$ Taps | ValidCard$ Card.Self | OptionalDecider$ You | TriggerZones$ Battlefield | Execute$ TrigBounce | TriggerDescription$ Whenever Surgespanner becomes tapped, you may pay 1U. If you do, return target permanent to its owner’s hand.
SVar:TrigBounce:AB$ChangeZone | Cost$ 1 U | ValidTgts$ Permanent | TgtPrompt$ Select target permanent | Origin$ Battlefield | Destination$ Hand
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Rare
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/surgespanner.jpg
SetInfo:LRW|Rare|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/lw/92.jpg
Oracle:Whenever Surgespanner becomes tapped, you may pay 1U. If you do, return target permanent to its owner's hand.
End

Feel free to fix and add to Forge.

Looks fine. I've added it to the developer version. Thanks squee1968.

[squee1968]

Here's Hunter Sliver, seems to do what it's supposed to, but for some reason provoke is not working. I even made a quick deck with provoke cards that were already in forge (Krosan Vorine, Brontotherium, etc.) and could not get them to trigger, either. Aren't the triggers supposed to go on the stack automatically as soon as attackers are declared? Or is there something I'm supposed to be doing? Someone please check into this.

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Name:Hunter Sliver
ManaCost:1 R
Types:Creature Sliver
Text:no text
PT:1/1
S:Mode$ Continuous | Affected$ Sliver | AddKeyword$ Provoke | Description$ All Slivers have provoke.
SVar:PlayMain1:TRUE
SVar:RemAIDeck:True
SVar:Rarity:Common
SVar:Picture:http://www.wizards.com/global/images/magic/general/hunter_sliver.jpg
SetInfo:LGN|Common|http://magiccards.info/scans/en/le/102.jpg
Oracle:All Slivers have provoke. (When this attacks, you may have target creature defending player controls untap and block it if able.)
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Also, can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong as far as the pictures not showing? Thanks.